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OK, so your theory is that Biden was fighting corruption. LOLLiar, that's not what he said. What he actually said was Biden wanted Shokin fired because Shokin was corrupt. And he was accused of corruption by many others besides Biden.It has not been proven right. The investigation was closed by Shokin before Biden went to Ukraine. That is why his resignation was demanded by the US.
So the US demanded that Shokin be fired because he was not investigating the company that was paying Hunter $83,000 a month. Well.......now that you put it that way, that certainly makes sense.
Shokin was not investigating Burisma or prosecuting corruption. That is why the Obama Administration, the world and Ukrainians wanted him out.
Do you realize how stupid that comment is? What you're saying is Joe forced them to fire Shokin because he was not investigating corruption in the company his son worked for?
I hope you're not a salesman for a living.
It seems to me that the entire lynch-pin of the Democrat argument is that Shokin was corrupt because Joe said so.
And therefore the quid pro quo was justified. And also the 2014 coup that handed the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation. (along with the petroleum fields)
What next? Are the Democrats going to hand our fucking uranium ore over to Putin, or who the fuck knows what else.........
And 5he libs are trying to say their interpretation of Trump's phone call is the only one possible.No. As usual the cons are trying to insist that only those two extremes are possible.concealed carry. He is guilty of anything you should have enough evidence to bring up charges. Otherwise he doesn't have to prove anything to Trump.The fact is that he was not. That has been confirmed by Ukrainian officials. The prosecutor who replaced Shokin has said that Hunter Biden has not broken any Ukrainian laws.
If Hunter Biden is truly innocent as you contend, he should have an opportunity to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
And that's all that President Trump has ever asked for.
Then I guess I stand corrected. The liberals are standing by the axiom that Hunter Biden is the Salt of the Earth and a tremendous individual. VP Biden should just advise what jobs this fabulously moral individual will be asked to do for the American people during his reign.
Try again.
This is the bullshit of extreme times.
Yet that mindset doesn't apply to the impeachment process. They played their game and are now crying foul no one else wants to play.concealed carry. He is guilty of anything you should have enough evidence to bring up charges. Otherwise he doesn't have to prove anything to Trump.That has to be evidence or suspicious behavior. Biden did not profit by it. Hunter Biden was never under investigation. The fact is that the DOJ has no basis for opening a investigation and that is with a partisan hack like Barr as AG.
How do you know Hunter Biden wasn't under investigation?
If a disreputable person like Biden- someone with connections to the cocaine and prostitution rackets- came to a jurisdiction, most local officials would keep a close eye on his sleazy ass.
The fact is that he was not. That has been confirmed by Ukrainian officials. The prosecutor who replaced Shokin has said that Hunter Biden has not broken any Ukrainian laws.
If Hunter Biden is truly innocent as you contend, he should have an opportunity to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
And that's all that President Trump has ever asked for.
It seems to me that the entire lynch-pin of the Democrat argument is that Shokin was corrupt because Joe said so.
And therefore the quid pro quo was justified. And also the 2014 coup that handed the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation. (along with the petroleum fields)
What next? Are the Democrats going to hand our fucking uranium ore over to Putin, or who the fuck knows what else.........
Now it's being reported that drug head is under a criminal investigation that involves money laundering and Burisma. It's not going to be a very merry Christmas for the Biden family, and probably even a worse new year.
It seems to me that the entire lynch-pin of the Democrat argument is that Shokin was corrupt because Joe said so.
And therefore the quid pro quo was justified. And also the 2014 coup that handed the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation. (along with the petroleum fields)
What next? Are the Democrats going to hand our fucking uranium ore over to Putin, or who the fuck knows what else.........
Now it's being reported that drug head is under a criminal investigation that involves money laundering and Burisma. It's not going to be a very merry Christmas for the Biden family, and probably even a worse new year.
Link?
It seems to me that the entire lynch-pin of the Democrat argument is that Shokin was corrupt because Joe said so.
And therefore the quid pro quo was justified. And also the 2014 coup that handed the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation. (along with the petroleum fields)
What next? Are the Democrats going to hand our fucking uranium ore over to Putin, or who the fuck knows what else.........
Now it's being reported that drug head is under a criminal investigation that involves money laundering and Burisma. It's not going to be a very merry Christmas for the Biden family, and probably even a worse new year.
Link?
https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/
It seems to me that the entire lynch-pin of the Democrat argument is that Shokin was corrupt because Joe said so.
And therefore the quid pro quo was justified. And also the 2014 coup that handed the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation. (along with the petroleum fields)
What next? Are the Democrats going to hand our fucking uranium ore over to Putin, or who the fuck knows what else.........
Now it's being reported that drug head is under a criminal investigation that involves money laundering and Burisma. It's not going to be a very merry Christmas for the Biden family, and probably even a worse new year.
Link?
https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/
That's it?
more overall approach. people tend to get granular when they're trying to prove a point and wide based DOES NOT APPLY when defending the same point coming back at them.Yet that mindset doesn't apply to the impeachment process. They played their game and are now crying foul no one else wants to play.concealed carry. He is guilty of anything you should have enough evidence to bring up charges. Otherwise he doesn't have to prove anything to Trump.How do you know Hunter Biden wasn't under investigation?
If a disreputable person like Biden- someone with connections to the cocaine and prostitution rackets- came to a jurisdiction, most local officials would keep a close eye on his sleazy ass.
The fact is that he was not. That has been confirmed by Ukrainian officials. The prosecutor who replaced Shokin has said that Hunter Biden has not broken any Ukrainian laws.
If Hunter Biden is truly innocent as you contend, he should have an opportunity to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
And that's all that President Trump has ever asked for.
I'm not understanding you on this Iceberg. Hunter Biden is a private citizen. If there is cause for investigation there are legitimate governmental law enforcement agencies to look into it.
Why does a PRIVATE CITIZEN have to prove anything to Trump? I don't get it?
It seems to me that the entire lynch-pin of the Democrat argument is that Shokin was corrupt because Joe said so.
And therefore the quid pro quo was justified. And also the 2014 coup that handed the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation. (along with the petroleum fields)
What next? Are the Democrats going to hand our fucking uranium ore over to Putin, or who the fuck knows what else.........
Now it's being reported that drug head is under a criminal investigation that involves money laundering and Burisma. It's not going to be a very merry Christmas for the Biden family, and probably even a worse new year.
Link?
https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/
That's it?
Well, so there was an investigation. Many Democrats are claiming that there was no investigation.It seems to me that the entire lynch-pin of the Democrat argument is that Shokin was corrupt because Joe said so.
And therefore the quid pro quo was justified. And also the 2014 coup that handed the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation. (along with the petroleum fields)
What next? Are the Democrats going to hand our fucking uranium ore over to Putin, or who the fuck knows what else.........
Now it's being reported that drug head is under a criminal investigation that involves money laundering and Burisma. It's not going to be a very merry Christmas for the Biden family, and probably even a worse new year.
Link?
https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/
That's it?
It has not been proven right. The investigation was closed by Shokin before Biden went to Ukraine. That is why his resignation was demanded by the US.
So the US demanded that Shokin be fired because he was not investigating the company that was paying Hunter $83,000 a month. Well.......now that you put it that way, that certainly makes sense.
Shokin was not investigating Burisma or prosecuting corruption. That is why the Obama Administration, the world and Ukrainians wanted him out.
Do you realize how stupid that comment is? What you're saying is Joe forced them to fire Shokin because he was not investigating corruption in the company his son worked for?
I hope you're not a salesman for a living.
Daria Kaleniuk @dkaleniukWhen you claim that Shokin was corrupt, that necessarily implies that he violated a law.Kinda funny how Democrats all keep calling Shokin "corrupt", yet when pressed on the issue they cannot ever cite any law that they believe Shokin ever violated.
Things that make you go...............
Even Ukrainians knew he was corrupt.
Could you kindly please cite the law that you believe he violated and provide some sort of substantiation for your accusation? (BTW no, saying "just cuz Joe said so" is not good enough)
I've been researching this, and keep coming up with nothing.
Got a link?
WTF?When you claim that Shokin was corrupt, that necessarily implies that he violated a law.Kinda funny how Democrats all keep calling Shokin "corrupt", yet when pressed on the issue they cannot ever cite any law that they believe Shokin ever violated.
Things that make you go...............
Even Ukrainians knew he was corrupt.
Could you kindly please cite the law that you believe he violated and provide some sort of substantiation for your accusation? (BTW no, saying "just cuz Joe said so" is not good enough)
I've been researching this, and keep coming up with nothing.
Got a link?
You aren't looking too hard.
Ukrainian Protesters Demand Dismissal Of Prosecutor-General
Why Poroshenko’s Support for Shokin Is Dangerous - Human Rights in Ukraine
What really happened when Biden forced out Ukraine's top prosecutor
How GPO headed by Yarema, Shokin and Lutsenko together “dumped” criminal investigations of Zlochevskyi - Anticorruption Action Centre
“Here is why I do not say anything about Hunter Biden,” Kaleniuk explained. “Vice President Biden called for Ukraine to fire Shokin not because of the Burisma investigation, absolutely not, but because Ukraine’s prosecutor general did not investigate Burisma. U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt insisted [in early 2016] that Shokin should be investigating Burisma. The U.S. government had a clear position: The Burisma probe was killed by Shokin.” And the U.S. thought it and other cases should not have been closed.
Ukraine’s Top Independent Corruption Fighters Shocked by Trump’s Phone Call—and His Ignorance
REPORT: Hunter Biden linked to multiple criminal probes, including money laundering…
It has not been proven right. The investigation was closed by Shokin before Biden went to Ukraine. That is why his resignation was demanded by the US.
So the US demanded that Shokin be fired because he was not investigating the company that was paying Hunter $83,000 a month. Well.......now that you put it that way, that certainly makes sense.
Shokin was not investigating Burisma or prosecuting corruption. That is why the Obama Administration, the world and Ukrainians wanted him out.
Do you realize how stupid that comment is? What you're saying is Joe forced them to fire Shokin because he was not investigating corruption in the company his son worked for?
I hope you're not a salesman for a living.
You are the stupid one. It is in fact the truth.
Replying to @OliverBullough
Thank you @OliverBullough - indeed it’s insane to use UKRAINE as a ball at the AMERICAN national political field. Prosecutor Shokin did not open the case on Zlochevskyi & Burisma. He dumped it. And he was fired for being corrupt and failing prosecution reform @kenvogel
12:52 PM - 2 May 2019
She lives in Ukraine unlike you and you seem to think you know more than she does. It proves you are the stupid one.
