Vatican U Teaches Satanism Class

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    Vatican University Teaches Satanism Class

    Thursday, February 17, 2005



    ROME — Worried about the lure of the devil, a Vatican-linked university on Thursday debuted its latest course offering: a class on Satanism, black magic and exorcism.

    The class for clergy and seminarians at Rome's Pontifical Academy "Regina Apostolorum (search)" has arisen from alarm about Satanic practices among young people, especially in Italy.

    In one case in Italy in January, eight people believed to belong to a Satanic sect were ordered to stand trial for their alleged role in three ritual killings.


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    Wow so thats how the Apostles did it. they went to exocist schools. wonder why that wasnt in the scriptures:)
     
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    Ha, the things that get classified as Satanism and black magic. Tarot cards for instance are more closely associated with pagan cultures like Vodoun and Santeria, but actually developed out of French Catholicism.

    The occult is an interest of mine and you would be surprised at where stuff comes from.
     
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    I know Im going to regret saying this, but I will anyway.
    The Catholic church from experience thru the ages has learned that anything that takes a person away from God, such as ouija boards, tarot cards, witchcraft, astral projection, etc is the opposite of God and therefore can leave that person open to demonic attack.

    I know most think the Devil and evil are just concepts, but I can say from first hand experience it is a real entity.
    Nuff said.
     
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    Dueteronomy 18:9-13

    When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD , and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. You must be blameless before the LORD your God.
     
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    Yet the stuff originated in catholocisim. If you study the major incarna (the best known part of the tarot deck) you will find that most of the cards have biblical imagery. Not a bit to do with Satanism.
     
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    Tarot Cards etc. have absolutly zero to do ith Catholicism. Just because they started out being used by a few Catholics does not mean they were ever oficial Church doctrine or anything. They have always been expressly prohibited.
     
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    From the "Cathecism of the Catholic Church" (the official doctrine of the Catholic Church) reagarding divination, sorcery etc....

    2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to "unveil" the future.Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.

    2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one's service and have a supernatural power over others - even if this were for the sake of restoring their health - are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another's credulity.
     
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    Bonnie seems more up on Catholic teachings, but my take is this. The Catholic Church recognizes Satan is a 'real' as God. Not as powerful, but compared to humans, much moreso.

    If you open the way to God, he will come. Same with Satan. Give no quarter.
     
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    It's the major arcana (most important part of the deck), and most people tend to think they were brought to Europe by returning crusaders, along with other card games. The interpretaton really depends on which deck you are using, and how you wish to interpret the cards, although I wouldn't say "biblical" is an accurate interpretation of the symbols used to describe the Fools journey.
     

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