Valid Logic or Spin?

[gipper]

What are your thoughts?

Comparing a book just randomly being created on it's own to DNA just being randomly being created on its own?

Without a Creator, one must believe that lifeless chemicals just magically arranged themselves in order for life to appear. This is impossible, for several reasons. Chirality, for one. DNA is composed of millions of amino acids. Amino acids can be left handed or right handed. DNA contains amino acids that all have the same handedness. The odds of this happening are simply mind boggling. That's just for getting all of the correct amino acids. Now you are faced with the odds of getting those millions of amino acids in the correct order. Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups.

Well stated and very true. Logic clearly dictates there must be a creator, but we all know man’s arrogance sometimes prevents logic from being accepted.

Logic doesnt actually dictate anything. Premises do. And there is where you will find yoir argument fails badly, as you will be making silly assumptions you cannot support.

"Logic doesnt actually dictate anything."

Now that is a mouthful...uttered by a dunce.

You're a sensitive little guy, aren't you? Now, if you had the weight of evidence and sound argument behind your magical declarations, you wouldn't have to internalize those beliefs and take personal offense when they are scrutinized. But, since all you will ever have is "because I say so", you dont have much choice.

...and all you have is, "because you say so."

 

[Bonzi]

Well the analogy either holds or it doesn't.

If NOT, why?
If SO, why?

Can you come up with a comparable?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Without a Creator, one must believe that lifeless chemicals just magically arranged themselves in order for life to appear. This is impossible, for several reasons. Chirality, for one. DNA is composed of millions of amino acids. Amino acids can be left handed or right handed. DNA contains amino acids that all have the same handedness. The odds of this happening are simply mind boggling. That's just for getting all of the correct amino acids. Now you are faced with the odds of getting those millions of amino acids in the correct order. Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups.

Well stated and very true. Logic clearly dictates there must be a creator, but we all know man’s arrogance sometimes prevents logic from being accepted.

Logic doesnt actually dictate anything. Premises do. And there is where you will find yoir argument fails badly, as you will be making silly assumptions you cannot support.

"Logic doesnt actually dictate anything."

Now that is a mouthful...uttered by a dunce.

You're a sensitive little guy, aren't you? Now, if you had the weight of evidence and sound argument behind your magical declarations, you wouldn't have to internalize those beliefs and take personal offense when they are scrutinized. But, since all you will ever have is "because I say so", you dont have much choice.

...and all you have is, "because you say so."

For my beliefs? Ha, no. I have mountains of mutually supportive evidence. You have nothing but your feelings, which is why your fee-fees get hurt when anyone makes fun of your goofy beliefs.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Can you come up with a comparable?

Of course, anyone can. This is just a reiteration of a very old, specious argument. See: chimps writing Shakespeare, or the 747 argument.

 

[gipper]

Well stated and very true. Logic clearly dictates there must be a creator, but we all know man’s arrogance sometimes prevents logic from being accepted.

Logic doesnt actually dictate anything. Premises do. And there is where you will find yoir argument fails badly, as you will be making silly assumptions you cannot support.

"Logic doesnt actually dictate anything."

Now that is a mouthful...uttered by a dunce.

You're a sensitive little guy, aren't you? Now, if you had the weight of evidence and sound argument behind your magical declarations, you wouldn't have to internalize those beliefs and take personal offense when they are scrutinized. But, since all you will ever have is "because I say so", you dont have much choice.

...and all you have is, "because you say so."

For my beliefs? Ha, no. I have mountains of mutually supportive evidence. You have nothing but your feelings, which is why your fee-fees get hurt when anyone makes fun of your goofy beliefs.

What does your evidence tell you?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Logic doesnt actually dictate anything. Premises do. And there is where you will find yoir argument fails badly, as you will be making silly assumptions you cannot support.

"Logic doesnt actually dictate anything."

Now that is a mouthful...uttered by a dunce.

You're a sensitive little guy, aren't you? Now, if you had the weight of evidence and sound argument behind your magical declarations, you wouldn't have to internalize those beliefs and take personal offense when they are scrutinized. But, since all you will ever have is "because I say so", you dont have much choice.

...and all you have is, "because you say so."

For my beliefs? Ha, no. I have mountains of mutually supportive evidence. You have nothing but your feelings, which is why your fee-fees get hurt when anyone makes fun of your goofy beliefs.

What does your evidence tell you?

Just stay tuned. whenever I say something that compels you to whine about Jaysus, you'll know it's an answer to your question.

 

[gipper]

"Logic doesnt actually dictate anything."

Now that is a mouthful...uttered by a dunce.

You're a sensitive little guy, aren't you? Now, if you had the weight of evidence and sound argument behind your magical declarations, you wouldn't have to internalize those beliefs and take personal offense when they are scrutinized. But, since all you will ever have is "because I say so", you dont have much choice.

...and all you have is, "because you say so."

For my beliefs? Ha, no. I have mountains of mutually supportive evidence. You have nothing but your feelings, which is why your fee-fees get hurt when anyone makes fun of your goofy beliefs.

What does your evidence tell you?

Just stay tuned. whenever I say something that compels you to whine about Jaysus, you'll know it's an answer to your question.

Well now I KNOW you are full of shit. Not that I didn't suspect it before.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're a sensitive little guy, aren't you? Now, if you had the weight of evidence and sound argument behind your magical declarations, you wouldn't have to internalize those beliefs and take personal offense when they are scrutinized. But, since all you will ever have is "because I say so", you dont have much choice.

...and all you have is, "because you say so."

For my beliefs? Ha, no. I have mountains of mutually supportive evidence. You have nothing but your feelings, which is why your fee-fees get hurt when anyone makes fun of your goofy beliefs.

What does your evidence tell you?

Just stay tuned. whenever I say something that compels you to whine about Jaysus, you'll know it's an answer to your question.

Well now I KNOW you are full of shit. Not that I didn't suspect it before.

But you say that about anyone who doesn't kowtow to your politics and superstitions. So I am unmoved.

 

[gipper]

...and all you have is, "because you say so."

For my beliefs? Ha, no. I have mountains of mutually supportive evidence. You have nothing but your feelings, which is why your fee-fees get hurt when anyone makes fun of your goofy beliefs.

What does your evidence tell you?

Just stay tuned. whenever I say something that compels you to whine about Jaysus, you'll know it's an answer to your question.

Well now I KNOW you are full of shit. Not that I didn't suspect it before.

But you say that about anyone who doesn't kowtow to your politics and superstitions. So I am unmoved.

You have stated you have mountains of evidence. I would like to see some.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

For my beliefs? Ha, no. I have mountains of mutually supportive evidence. You have nothing but your feelings, which is why your fee-fees get hurt when anyone makes fun of your goofy beliefs.

What does your evidence tell you?

Just stay tuned. whenever I say something that compels you to whine about Jaysus, you'll know it's an answer to your question.

Well now I KNOW you are full of shit. Not that I didn't suspect it before.

But you say that about anyone who doesn't kowtow to your politics and superstitions. So I am unmoved.

You have stated you have mountains of evidence. I would like to see some.

Of what? You're kind of flailing. Use your words.

 

[gipper]

What does your evidence tell you?

Just stay tuned. whenever I say something that compels you to whine about Jaysus, you'll know it's an answer to your question.

Well now I KNOW you are full of shit. Not that I didn't suspect it before.

But you say that about anyone who doesn't kowtow to your politics and superstitions. So I am unmoved.

You have stated you have mountains of evidence. I would like to see some.

Of what? You're kind of flailing. Use your words.

I am waiting for your evidence. Don’t be shy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just stay tuned. whenever I say something that compels you to whine about Jaysus, you'll know it's an answer to your question.

Well now I KNOW you are full of shit. Not that I didn't suspect it before.

But you say that about anyone who doesn't kowtow to your politics and superstitions. So I am unmoved.

You have stated you have mountains of evidence. I would like to see some.

Of what? You're kind of flailing. Use your words.

I am waiting for your evidence. Don’t be shy.

Of what, exactly? Use your words, like a big boy.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Look at the complexity of a star, or an atom like Uranium, or the solar system. Given the four forces of the universe all things are possible without any guiding hand. Physics and chemistry provide plenty of energy and proper alignment of atoms and molecules for these things to arise and function even though it is all inanimate material.

 

[RWNJ]

Look at the complexity of a star, or an atom like Uranium, or the solar system. Given the four forces of the universe all things are possible without any guiding hand. Physics and chemistry provide plenty of energy and proper alignment of atoms and molecules for these things to arise and function even though it is all inanimate material.

Where did physics come from? Where did the universal physical constants that shape reality come from? Where did anything come from? No matter how you try to weasel out of it, the universe requires a Creator.

 

[onefour1]

Too long....Didn't watch

11 minutes and 39 seconds? What is the average attention span of an American adult these days?

 

[RWNJ]

Too long....Didn't watch

11 minutes and 39 seconds? What is the average attention span of an American adult these days?

Too long....Didn't watch

11 minutes and 39 seconds? What is the average attention span of an American adult these days?

I'll bet you he wouldn't have any trouble watching a porn video that was 11 minutes and 39 seconds. LOL!

 

[frigidweirdo]

Too long....Didn't watch

okay so I tried to summarize it, but here is another quick summary:

"The Atheist Delusion" is your standard Ray Comfort street interviews. This time his argument is one we've heard before, about creation needing a creator. Because a book couldn't make itself, DNA couldn't make itself, therefore, God, and specifically, the god of the Bible, did it. Atheists, we are told (and this we've also heard before) know that there is a god but deny it because they like fornication and pornography. (that last sentence is hilarious!)

Which is ridiculous, because if God has to exist for a book to exist, then how did God exist? Just spring out of nowhere? Then their argument falls down massively.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Too long....Didn't watch

11 minutes and 39 seconds? What is the average attention span of an American adult these days?

I'd say abou

 

[IsaacNewton]

Look at the complexity of a star, or an atom like Uranium, or the solar system. Given the four forces of the universe all things are possible without any guiding hand. Physics and chemistry provide plenty of energy and proper alignment of atoms and molecules for these things to arise and function even though it is all inanimate material.

Where did physics come from? Where did the universal physical constants that shape reality come from? Where did anything come from? No matter how you try to weasel out of it, the universe requires a Creator.

Yes and your version is a flying grandpa who does magic like a genie. And THAT seems rational to you. Have you thrown the bones today? You need to know what the bones say about what you need to do tomorrow. Don't wait. And rub your rabbit's foot for good luck.

 

[RWNJ]

Look at the complexity of a star, or an atom like Uranium, or the solar system. Given the four forces of the universe all things are possible without any guiding hand. Physics and chemistry provide plenty of energy and proper alignment of atoms and molecules for these things to arise and function even though it is all inanimate material.

Where did physics come from? Where did the universal physical constants that shape reality come from? Where did anything come from? No matter how you try to weasel out of it, the universe requires a Creator.

Yes and your version is a flying grandpa who does magic like a genie. And THAT seems rational to you. Have you thrown the bones today? You need to know what the bones say about what you need to do tomorrow. Don't wait. And rub your rabbit's foot for good luck.

Welcome to my ignore list. Your inclusion is long overdue.