USMCA: Pelousy Shows Her Hatred For America

[Uncensored2008]

Because you are a leftist and a liar, and I expose you. You think if you blow enough smoke you'll obfuscate this fact.

The only liar here is you.

All you can do with the FRED is adjust what data is shown, you cannot alter the data at all. The things you highlighted on your screenshot are just about what data is shown, it does not in any way affect the actual data.

I didn't say you could, I said you could manipulate parameters to make FRED say anything you want, then I proved it. Because you LEFTIST PIGS use FRED to bolster bullshit points. showing it to be unreliable undercuts your ability to lie.

And let's face it, lying is the ONLY tool you leftists have in your bag.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I didn't say you could, I said you could manipulate parameters to make FRED say anything you want, then I proved it. Because you LEFTIST PIGS use FRED to bolster bullshit points. showing it to be unreliable undercuts your ability to lie.

And let's face it, lying is the ONLY tool you leftists have in your bag.

You cannot make it say anything you want, I could not make it show that the UE rate is 5%, I could not make it show that Trump has broken the 3% for GDP growth barrier.

All you can do is adjust the dates of the data that is shown...

I cannot decide if you are really this stupid or just this dishonest...most likely a combination of the two.

 

[Zorro!]

Federal Reserve Economic Data (FRED) is a Fraud? Look at all those manufacturing jobs, right after Trump took over:

Doing a fabulous job for the American Worker comes naturally to Trump: this guy stares down solar eclipses!

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What I mean is that FRED is a graphing engine that will output anything you like based on inputs. It will say what you want it to say.

Except that the user cannot input any data, they can only output it in the form of graphs or table. The data is all derived from government sources.

False. The parameters supplied dictate the output.

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But not the data itself. P

FRED will say anything you want.

(Federal Reserve Economic Data) FRED is simply a useful site to view and compare economic data. For example, you can view the "growth" of manufacturing jobs under Obama compared to Trump, and quickly and completely refute the false claim that Trump hasn't done a fabulous job for the Manufacturing Workers that the Left dismissed and told to "learn to code". A comment they take great offense to when it's suggested to laid of Newspaper folks.

Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Release: Employment Situation


Units: Thousands of Persons, Seasonally Adjusted

Frequency: Monthly

The series comes from the 'Current Employment Statistics (Establishment Survey).'

The source code is: CES3000000001

Suggested Citation:
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, All Employees, Manufacturing [MANEMP], retrieved from FRED, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis; All Employees, Manufacturing, February 1, 2020.

When facts get in the way of your claims, reconsider your claims.​

 

[Dr Grump]

Fucking lie. Environmental regulation is the #1 reason for offshoring.

The above is nothing but total utter Fake News

The epic mistake about manufacturing that’s cost Americans millions of jobs

“American factories are about twice as efficient today as they were three decades ago. So we’re producing more and more stuff, even as we use fewer and fewer people to do it.”

And yet, once Trump took over, all of a sudden the number of US mfg jobs surged.

Er no. Manufacturing jobs started to increase in 2010, six years before the Orange Buffoon took office, and have steadily increased since then. More Fake News by Deplorables.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[Dr Grump]

Weird how all of Obama's policies started producing amazing results one Trump was elected.

Obama spent two terms blaming Bush for his own failures and now he is trying to take credit for Trump's fabulous results? Sad!

Most positive data was well into an upswing long before the Orange Buffoon came along.

Interesting how this same thread is bemoaning the loss of US manufacturing jobs, while in the same breath saying everything is great, thanks to Trumplethinskin.
Only dumbarse Deplorables would think like this and expect to be taken seriously.

You are simply wrong, your claim is falsified by hard data.

Cool. Post your data.

 

[Dr Grump]

Not really, the only groundwork that Obama laid out was a bunch of EO's to stifle businesses, which Trump
promptly eliminated. But, hey.....carry on with your yarn, Grump.

You mean how Obama got things back to an even keel after the clusterfuck that Bush jnr left him? What EOs' stifled business. And what has Trump done to stimulate business? And how well is business going?

Just do your own homework, Grump, you'll appreciate it more. That is if you ARE serious

The way it works is that the person making the claim proves their point. You're claiming Obama's EOs stifled business. It is up to prove the point - if you ARE serious.

 

[Dr Grump]

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Probably an American hating foreigner who is rooting against our success. We have lots of those haters here on this board.

Just another idiotic Deplorable polluting this board who doesn't know her arse from her elbow who posts shoddy links proving nothing.

 

[Meister]

Not really, the only groundwork that Obama laid out was a bunch of EO's to stifle businesses, which Trump
promptly eliminated. But, hey.....carry on with your yarn, Grump.

You mean how Obama got things back to an even keel after the clusterfuck that Bush jnr left him? What EOs' stifled business. And what has Trump done to stimulate business? And how well is business going?

Just do your own homework, Grump, you'll appreciate it more. That is if you ARE serious

The way it works is that the person making the claim proves their point. You're claiming Obama's EOs stifled business. It is up to prove the point - if you ARE serious.

I don't have to prove anything to you, grump. You're too lazy to find the truth yourself. Enjoy your country, grump. I'm sure it's a nice place to visit,
I'm equally sure I wouldn't want to live there.

 

[Dr Grump]

Not really, the only groundwork that Obama laid out was a bunch of EO's to stifle businesses, which Trump
promptly eliminated. But, hey.....carry on with your yarn, Grump.

You mean how Obama got things back to an even keel after the clusterfuck that Bush jnr left him? What EOs' stifled business. And what has Trump done to stimulate business? And how well is business going?

Lie much, Forrest?

What's the lie. You're just putting up a cherrypicked Fox News piece. Bush had seven years to try and fix it and didn't. All this Monday morning quarterbacking means nothing.

 

[Dr Grump]

I don't have to prove anything to you, grump. You're too lazy to find the truth yourself. Enjoy your country, grump. I'm sure it's a nice place to visit,
I'm equally sure I wouldn't want to live there.

Then don't pollute the thread with your opinions. Messageboard etiquette has always been that the person making the claim has to prove their point. You don't have to. I love it how you make the point but can't be bothered proving it, and you call me lazy. RATFLMAO. Typical Trump Deplorable. And don't worry, we wouldn't want you here.

BTW, I think the US is a great place. Fantastic. Unfortunately some of its inhabitants are not the best humanity has to offer...<shrug>..

 

[Meister]

I don't have to prove anything to you, grump. You're too lazy to find the truth yourself. Enjoy your country, grump. I'm sure it's a nice place to visit,
I'm equally sure I wouldn't want to live there.

Then don't pollute the thread with your opinions. Messageboard etiquette has always been that the person making the claim has to prove their point. You don't have to. I love it how you make the point but can't be bothered proving it, and you call me lazy. RATFLMAO. Typical Trump Deplorable. And don't worry, we wouldn't want you here.

BTW, I think the US is a great place. Fantastic. Unfortunately some of its inhabitants are not the best humanity as to offer...<shrug>..

Your previous post to uncensored is the exact reason I don't waste my time to a buffoon like yourself, grump. Shameful that you'play silly ass games and think that others are too fucking stupid to know what you're doing. By the way....I am sure you're no prize to your country.

 

[Dr Grump]

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Your previous post to uncensored is the exact reason I don't waste my time to a buffoon like yourself, grump. Shameful that you'play silly ass games and think that others are too fucking stupid to know what you're doing. By the way....I am sure you're no prize to your country.

The one where he put up a cherrypicked, edited piece by Fox News? You don't think I could do the same with CNN? Easy as.

What games? No games here. Sounds like a convenient excuse because you're a lazy arse. That's on you.

I'm pretty good for this country. Pay my taxes. Do a good job. Help around the community. Don't support people who cheat on their wife, think it's okay to grab a woman's pussy, lie constantly on Twitter, disrespect veteran's families, disrespect former service men when the person doing the disrespecting got deferments for bone spurs. The fact you loons constantly give this piece of human garbage a free pass says all I need to know about you losers. None of it good.

 

[Meister]

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Your previous post to uncensored is the exact reason I don't waste my time to a buffoon like yourself, grump. Shameful that you'play silly ass games and think that others are too fucking stupid to know what you're doing. By the way....I am sure you're no prize to your country.

The one where he put up a cherrypicked, edited piece by Fox News? You don't think I could do the same with CNN? Easy as.

What games? No games here. Sounds like a convenient excuse because you're a lazy arse. That's on you.

I'm pretty good for this country. Pay my taxes. Do a good job. Help around the community. Don't support people who cheat on their wife, think it's okay to grab a woman's pussy, lie constantly on Twitter, disrespect veteran's families, disrespect former service men when the person doing the disrespecting got deferments for bone spurs. The fact you loons constantly give this piece of human garbage a free pass says all I need to know about you losers. None of it good.

Trump has done more for this country that any other president in my lifetime. Yes, you play games everyone on the right knows it.
You're a socialistic, I get it, you like it.
Glad you pay your taxes....I'm sure there are a lot of taxes and a VAT to boot.

 

[Dr Grump]

Trump has done more for this country that any other president in my lifetime. Yes, you play games everyone on the right knows it.
You're a socialistic, I get it, you like it.
Glad you pay your taxes....I'm sure there are a lot of taxes and a VAT to boot.

List his achievements. And I doubt your lifetime has been four years.
LOL..play games - translation: I'm hopeless at debating a point, and being a typical Deplorable I play the man not the debate itself.
I'm about as much a socialist asTed Bundy was a nice guy.

 

[Zorro!]

Weird how all of Obama's policies started producing amazing results one Trump was elected.

Obama spent two terms blaming Bush for his own failures and now he is trying to take credit for Trump's fabulous results? Sad!

Most positive data was well into an upswing long before the Orange Buffoon came along.

Interesting how this same thread is bemoaning the loss of US manufacturing jobs, while in the same breath saying everything is great, thanks to Trumplethinskin.
Only dumbarse Deplorables would think like this and expect to be taken seriously.

You are simply wrong, your claim is falsified by hard data.

Cool. Post your data.

Sure.
Manufacturing jobs, Obama's final year:

Manufacturing jobs under Trump:

Everyone in Manufacturing has felt the difference.

Obama told them that those jobs weren't coming back, ridiculed Trump by claiming he was promising to wave a magic wand:

 

[Meister]

Trump has done more for this country that any other president in my lifetime. Yes, you play games everyone on the right knows it.
You're a socialistic, I get it, you like it.
Glad you pay your taxes....I'm sure there are a lot of taxes and a VAT to boot.

List his achievements. And I doubt your lifetime has been four years.
LOL..play games - translation: I'm hopeless at debating a point, and being a typical Deplorable I play the man not the debate itself.
I'm about as much a socialist asTed Bundy was a nice guy.

The List Of President Trump's Accomplishments So Far | Mark Simone | 710 WOR
Trump's Top 10 Achievements for 2019 | RealClearPolitics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/26/best-things-trump-has-done/
Giving Trump’s accomplishments their due
Timeline | President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments
Trump Administration Accomplishments | The White House
President Donald J. Trump's Remarkable Record of Achievement - Faith and Freedom Coalition

Sorry CNN and MSNBC refuse to be honest.
Also, I'm probably a lot older than you are, you show a lot of immaturity.
My first president was Truman.
You can say all you want as to you not being a socialist. Socialism isn't a Black or White thing, it has a lot of gray.
You see a lot more gray than we do in America. Also, I bet your taxes in totality are extremely high.

 

[Dr Grump]

The List Of President Trump's Accomplishments So Far | Mark Simone | 710 WOR
Trump's Top 10 Achievements for 2019 | RealClearPolitics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/26/best-things-trump-has-done/
Giving Trump’s accomplishments their due
Timeline | President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments
Trump Administration Accomplishments | The White House
President Donald J. Trump's Remarkable Record of Achievement - Faith and Freedom Coalition

Sorry CNN and MSNBC refuse to be honest.
Also, I'm probably a lot older than you are, you show a lot of immaturity.
My first president was Truman.
You can say all you want as to you not being a socialist. Socialism isn't a Black or White thing, it has a lot of gray.
You see a lot more gray than we do in America. Also, I bet your taxes in totality are extremely high.

Trump's biggest accomplishments and failures as president as he heads into a reelection year after impeachment
He has had some successes, but he has had more failures. And he is such a disgusting human being.

Oh, BS with this immaturity thing. The fact that Truman was your first says a lot about you and your mindset. Old white guy looking out for the old days when whitey ruled the world, "everthing was better back then,,,yadda, yadda, yadda." unless you happened to be black, or hispanic, or gay, or a woman.

I have always said, and always believe, you need a mixture of capitalism and socialism. Fiscally I am conservative. Socially liberal.

I don't know about taxes. How do you measure it? You do realise that Trump has created a $1.5 trillion tax deficit by cutting the corporate tax rate by 14 per cent. And it has to be paid back at some stage? You do realise that?

 

[Dr Grump]

Weird how all of Obama's policies started producing amazing results one Trump was elected.

Obama spent two terms blaming Bush for his own failures and now he is trying to take credit for Trump's fabulous results? Sad!

Most positive data was well into an upswing long before the Orange Buffoon came along.

Interesting how this same thread is bemoaning the loss of US manufacturing jobs, while in the same breath saying everything is great, thanks to Trumplethinskin.
Only dumbarse Deplorables would think like this and expect to be taken seriously.

You are simply wrong, your claim is falsified by hard data.

Cool. Post your data.

Sure.
Manufacturing jobs, Obama's final year:

Manufacturing jobs under Trump:

Everyone in Manufacturing has felt the difference.

Obama told them that those jobs weren't coming back, ridiculed Trump by claiming he was promising to wave a magic wand:

LOL...you funny. Love it. Your first chart is for 1 year - 2015-6. The Trump chart is for 3 years. My chart in my link in post 64 is accurate.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Obama told them that those jobs weren't coming back, ridiculed Trump by claiming he was promising to wave a magic wand:

He was correct, we will never get back to where we where we were in 2000. Our factories have become far too efficient to ever need that many bodies again.

 

[Zorro!]

Weird how all of Obama's policies started producing amazing results one Trump was elected.

Obama spent two terms blaming Bush for his own failures and now he is trying to take credit for Trump's fabulous results? Sad!

Most positive data was well into an upswing long before the Orange Buffoon came along.

Interesting how this same thread is bemoaning the loss of US manufacturing jobs, while in the same breath saying everything is great, thanks to Trumplethinskin.
Only dumbarse Deplorables would think like this and expect to be taken seriously.

You are simply wrong, your claim is falsified by hard data.

Cool. Post your data.

Sure.
Manufacturing jobs, Obama's final year:

Manufacturing jobs under Trump:

Everyone in Manufacturing has felt the difference.

Obama told them that those jobs weren't coming back, ridiculed Trump by claiming he was promising to wave a magic wand:

LOL...you funny. Love it. Your first chart is for the year - 2015-6...

Of course, that measures the final year of Obama's presidency and his manufacturing job growth was from 12,362k jobs in Dec 2015 to 12,355k a growth of 0.06%

... The Trump chart is for 3 years...

Yes, he has whipped Obama's numbers like a rented mule, not just one time, but EVERY time...[/quote]
Our Beloved President grew Manufacturing jobs to a degree that Obama and the Left dismissed as not possible.

At a town hall in June 2016, President Obama famously said that some manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back.” He went on to mock then-candidate Trump by saying he’d need a “magic wand” to make good on this manufacturing job promises.

Months later, as the shock of a President-elect Donald Trump was still being absorbed, Fake News New York Times columnist and economist Paul Krugman tweeted on November 25, 2016, “Nothing policy can do will bring back those lost jobs. The service sector is the future of work; but nobody wants to hear it.”

Telling Trump he CAN'T do something is like waving a flag in front of a Bull.

In the first 21 months of the Trump presidency, manufacturing employment grew by 3.1%, reversing the trend under Obama when overall employment grew faster than employment in the manufacturing sector.

Comparing the last 21 months of the Obama administration with the first 21 months of Trump’s, shows that under Trump’s watch, more than 10 times the number of manufacturing jobs were added.

The Trump Manufacturing Jobs Boom: 10 Times Obama's Over 21 Months

Eight years of the Obama Administration’s piling on regulation upon regulation, from labor rules, to the Clean Power Plan, to the implementation of ObamaCare, placed industry into a defensive crouch. Business leaders were fearful of investing capital, not knowing how the federal rules might capriciously change, thus wiping out their expected return on investment.

That defensiveness ended in November 2016 when the expectations of additional regulatory burdens under a prospective President Clinton vanished. Not coincidentally, manufacturing employment started its sustained upswing the very month of Krugman’s tweet.

Second, the Trump Administration’s deregulatory practice exceeded expectations, with red tape being cut at a faster clip than achieved under President Ronald Reagan 36 years earlier.

Third, with the Republican Congress, President Trump delivered on a major overhaul of the tax code, including a significant cut to business taxes as well as a change to the treatment of overseas profits that incentivized the repatriation of some $300 billion in the first quarter of 2018 out of what the Federal Reserve estimates is $1 trillion in multinational profits held abroad.

The main thing a SMART President does is just get out of the way of The Naturally Great American People who by their very nature are prone to fabulous results.

Rather than quibble of our great good fortune, let's just rejoice with these thrilled manufacturing employees!​