US Number #1 ....

[Samson]

Just to keep up a few good things about innovation,


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For anyone that has been seeing all the talk from the CES in Las Vegas Apples iSlate is what people are waiting to see.

Bah, Humbug.

I'm beginning to wonder how much technological innovation is really only a result of marketing "innovation." I.e. does anyone really need a iSlate any more than anyone needed a Pet Rock?

 

[Navy1960]

Just to keep up a few good things about innovation,


.....

For anyone that has been seeing all the talk from the CES in Las Vegas Apples iSlate is what people are waiting to see.

Bah, Humbug.

I'm beginning to wonder how much technological innovation is really only a result of marketing "innovation." I.e. does anyone really need a iSlate any more than anyone needed a Pet Rock?

*laughs* well thats true too, marketing has a lot to do with driving engineering I imagine, especially in Apples case. As for needing one, no one really needs one when you get right down too it, although many iphone owners might disagree with that.

 

[Vast LWC]

Well now I like to think that the US is #1 in innovation myself. I believe we probably are.

But this study is a bunch of BS. Check out the second paragraph:

The ranking is based on indices such as the number of internet users in a nation, the ease of doing business and the stability of banks (that score alone makes surprising that the U.S. tops the list). Every factor is then categorized as either an input or an output, with inputs indicating how conducive countries are to stimulating innovation (these include institutions and policies, human capacity, infrastructure, technological sophistication, business markets and capital). The outputs indicate how effectively countries translate innovation into benefits - like knowledge, competitiveness and wealth

The number of internet users in a country is representative of innovation? Really?

And the rest is all about how wealthy a country is, not about inventions or technological superiority.

I guess people have different ideas of what "innovation" means, but this is at the very least misleading.

Again, I'm personally relatively sure that we do in fact lead in actual innovation, I'm just saying that this particular study is a bunch of BS.

 

[Vast LWC]

As far a threads that say the US is behind in various categories, the only thing I think we're behind in is health care, and the data backs that up. Oh and maybe education, but I think that's more a matter of attitude than ability.

 

[Yukon]

You forgot the other areas where the USA is number 1 in the rate of:

* Child Poverty
* Pre-mature infant death
* State sanctioned execution
* Uninsured
* People imprisoned
* Wars being fought
* Drug addicts
* AIDS cases
* Illiteracy
* Homelessness


Yes, America is NUMERO UNO !

 

[Navy1960]

Well now I like to think that the US is #1 in innovation myself. I believe we probably are.

But this study is a bunch of BS. Check out the second paragraph:

The ranking is based on indices such as the number of internet users in a nation, the ease of doing business and the stability of banks (that score alone makes surprising that the U.S. tops the list). Every factor is then categorized as either an input or an output, with inputs indicating how conducive countries are to stimulating innovation (these include institutions and policies, human capacity, infrastructure, technological sophistication, business markets and capital). The outputs indicate how effectively countries translate innovation into benefits - like knowledge, competitiveness and wealth

The number of internet users in a country is representative of innovation? Really?

And the rest is all about how wealthy a country is, not about inventions or technological superiority.

I guess people have different ideas of what "innovation" means, but this is at the very least misleading.

Again, I'm personally relatively sure that we do in fact lead in actual innovation, I'm just saying that this particular study is a bunch of BS.

Here is another article then LWC that bases it's conclusions on more than just an overall look like the previous one.

The U.S. economy was ranked as the most innovative in the world by INSEAD, a Paris-based business school, in its Global Innovation Index. Although the top spot for the United States is predictable, “the great extent of the lead is less so,” said Soumitra Dutta of INSEAD, who led the study, and Simon Caulkin of World Business magazine in an online article.

The United States was followed by Germany, the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Switzerland, Singapore, Canada, the Netherlands and Hong Kong.

The study defines innovation as “the amalgamation of invention and creativity that leads to the generation of economic and social values.”

The index is based on a belief that a country’s (or territory’s) readiness to respond to challenges is linked to its ability to adopt, and benefit from, innovative technologies, bolstered human capacities, better organizational and operational capabilities and improved institutional performance. That is why its authors went beyond traditional measures of innovation, such as spending on research and development and number of patents. Instead, they assessed “pillars” of innovation, such as policies, infrastructure, technology sophistication, knowledge creation and competitiveness.

Innovation May Help United States Meet Economic Challenges

 

[Vast LWC]

Here is another article then LWC that bases it's conclusions on more than just an overall look like the previous one.

The U.S. economy was ranked as the most innovative in the world by INSEAD, a Paris-based business school, in its Global Innovation Index. Although the top spot for the United States is predictable, “the great extent of the lead is less so,” said Soumitra Dutta of INSEAD, who led the study, and Simon Caulkin of World Business magazine in an online article.

The United States was followed by Germany, the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Switzerland, Singapore, Canada, the Netherlands and Hong Kong.

The study defines innovation as “the amalgamation of invention and creativity that leads to the generation of economic and social values.”

The index is based on a belief that a country’s (or territory’s) readiness to respond to challenges is linked to its ability to adopt, and benefit from, innovative technologies, bolstered human capacities, better organizational and operational capabilities and improved institutional performance. That is why its authors went beyond traditional measures of innovation, such as spending on research and development and number of patents. Instead, they assessed “pillars” of innovation, such as policies, infrastructure, technology sophistication, knowledge creation and competitiveness.

Innovation May Help United States Meet Economic Challenges

Hey now, again, it is my firm belief that the US is in fact the leader in world innovation.

I was just saying that the methodology used by this Frenchie guy to reach the correct conclusion was terrible.

It's like when the French knew that we shouldn't invade Iraq. They reached the right conclusions, but had terrible reasons for reaching those conclusions.

 

[Vast LWC]

You forgot the other areas where the USA is number 1 in the rate of:

* Child Poverty
* Pre-mature infant death
* State sanctioned execution
* Uninsured
* People imprisoned
* Wars being fought
* Drug addicts
* AIDS cases
* Illiteracy
* Homelessness


Yes, America is NUMERO UNO !

Sigh, leave it to Yukon to America bash at every chance he gets.

And no Yukon, the US is not a world leader in ANY of the categories you mentioned.

 

[Navy1960]

Here is another article then LWC that bases it's conclusions on more than just an overall look like the previous one.

The U.S. economy was ranked as the most innovative in the world by INSEAD, a Paris-based business school, in its Global Innovation Index. Although the top spot for the United States is predictable, “the great extent of the lead is less so,” said Soumitra Dutta of INSEAD, who led the study, and Simon Caulkin of World Business magazine in an online article.

The United States was followed by Germany, the United Kingdom, Japan, France, Switzerland, Singapore, Canada, the Netherlands and Hong Kong.

The study defines innovation as “the amalgamation of invention and creativity that leads to the generation of economic and social values.”

The index is based on a belief that a country’s (or territory’s) readiness to respond to challenges is linked to its ability to adopt, and benefit from, innovative technologies, bolstered human capacities, better organizational and operational capabilities and improved institutional performance. That is why its authors went beyond traditional measures of innovation, such as spending on research and development and number of patents. Instead, they assessed “pillars” of innovation, such as policies, infrastructure, technology sophistication, knowledge creation and competitiveness.

Innovation May Help United States Meet Economic Challenges

Hey now, again, it is my firm belief that the US is in fact the leader in world innovation.

I was just saying that the methodology used by this Frenchie guy to reach the correct conclusion was terrible.

It's like when the French knew that we shouldn't invade Iraq. They reached the right conclusions, but had terrible reasons for reaching those conclusions.

I know, just thought, I would give another one that was a bit more in-depth.

 

[Samson]

Well now I like to think that the US is #1 in innovation myself. I believe we probably are.

But this study is a bunch of BS. Check out the second paragraph:

The ranking is based on indices such as the number of internet users in a nation, the ease of doing business and the stability of banks (that score alone makes surprising that the U.S. tops the list). Every factor is then categorized as either an input or an output, with inputs indicating how conducive countries are to stimulating innovation (these include institutions and policies, human capacity, infrastructure, technological sophistication, business markets and capital). The outputs indicate how effectively countries translate innovation into benefits - like knowledge, competitiveness and wealth

The number of internet users in a country is representative of innovation? Really?

And the rest is all about how wealthy a country is, not about inventions or technological superiority.

I guess people have different ideas of what "innovation" means, but this is at the very least misleading.

Again, I'm personally relatively sure that we do in fact lead in actual innovation, I'm just saying that this particular study is a bunch of BS.

WTF would you suggest measuring to determine an innovative ranking?

Personnally, I think the guys doing the analysis could have simplified their research and ranked the countries based on their producing the most pornographic movies.

 

[Yukon]

Im not "America bashing" I'm simply stating the facts. However America is also number 1 in the rate of:

* Child Poverty
* Pre-mature infant death
* State sanctioned execution
* Uninsured
* People imprisoned
* Wars being fought
* Drug addicts
* AIDS cases
* Illiteracy
* Homelessness

 

[Samson]

Im not "America bashing" I'm simply stating the facts. However America is also number 1 in the rate of:

* Child Poverty
* Pre-mature infant death
* State sanctioned execution
* Uninsured
* People imprisoned
* Wars being fought
* Drug addicts
* AIDS cases
* Illiteracy
* Homelessness

There's always some idiot that needs attention, and throws a bomb into threads to get it.

Start your own threads, then you can get the attention you need, and no one will be able to ingnore you.