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The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
I am confused as to why you are cheering for our enemies. The plane violate the air space of a sovereign nation. Turkey didn't need anyone's approval to shoot it down, and frankly, the way Russia has treated its neighbors - I don't blame them.
Hopefully better than what one would think about a retard cheering for a socialist Russian dictator and condemning the U.S. and its allies for acting in their best interests.^ this is your brain on ODSYou think Turkey isn't consulting with their NATO allies prior to destroying Russian hardware?
Of course Turkey consulted with NATO, I wouldn't be surprised at that emergency NATO meeting the other night if they didn't tell Turkey to shoot another Russian plane down. I mean they're totally psychotic at this point, NATO, Obama and Turkey.
One of the most psycho being General Philip Breedlove, straight-up in-the-flesh Jack D. Ripper from "Doctor Strangelove" type lunatic.
What is one meant to think of someone, who has that "South Park" clip of Donald Trump being sodomised to death?
Hussein is the enemy ...he is no ally .....he is the enemy from within....
United States of America should know that by now!
Think about this part of the press conference. President Hollande was standing right next to Putin at that press conference and he did not negate Putin's statements.
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
If it was trespassing over their airspace, and ignored warnings - they had the right. Not saying it was the smart thing to do but they have every right to do it without the "clearance" of any other nation.
"Decades of careful diplomacy and nail-biting inaction during the potentially world-annihilating nuclear arms race of the 1950s, 60s and 70s appears to have been sacrificed in a few brief seconds by Turkey.
During the Cuban missile crisis of 1962, the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the deployment of nuclear weapons in western Europe in the 1980s and many other causes of strife, NATO did not take on the Soviet Union or Russia directly and Moscow did not attack any NATO country.
That all changed when Turkish air force jets shot down a Russian bomber Tuesday -- the first time a NATO country has taken such action since 1952."
NATO and Putin: Downed Russian bomber is big threat - CNN.com
The "right" at what costs. They should have exercised greater care and consulted with their NATO counterparts like the USA.
As I said in my post - it might not have been smart, but they had the right if the invading plane was not responding to them.
The surviving pilot of a Russian plane shot down by Turkey on the Syrian border has said no warning was given.
Capt Konstantin Murakhtin told Russian television there was "no way" the jet could have violated Turkish airspace, as Turkey said it did.
'Turkey gave no warning' - downed Russian pilot - BBC News
Think about this part of the press conference. President Hollande was standing right next to Putin at that press conference and he did not negate Putin statements.
Exactly
Because Hollande knows Putin is right!
Airspace and even international water boundaries are routinely violated by most all nations. They are "testing" each other. This time it got out off hand, Russia pushed the envelope and Turkey had a hair trigger. Not good given the situation in that area
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
I am confused as to why you are cheering for our enemies. The plane violate the air space of a sovereign nation. Turkey didn't need anyone's approval to shoot it down, and frankly, the way Russia has treated its neighbors - I don't blame them.
I was wondering that myself. I've been fighting 2 threads at the same time in last 3 days against these people cheering for our enemy. Some of them are really siding with foreigners and having a good Putin propaganda. These people love Pooting so much.
Think about this part of the press conference. President Hollande was standing right next to Putin at that press conference and he did not negate Putin's statements.
Hollande is a guest......why would Hollande misbehave? Sure you know a lot.
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
Personally I think you got it all wrong. If anything the whitehouse is probably so far removed from actively providing the civilian leadership they so desperately need, "the military" is out of control and acting on there own.
A bad situation for sure and by every measure.
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
Personally I think you got it all wrong. If anything the whitehouse is probably so far removed from actively providing the civilian leadership they so desperately need, "the military" is out of control and acting on there own.
A bad situation for sure and by every measure.
Which is why America needs a real President.
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
Personally I think you got it all wrong. If anything the whitehouse is probably so far removed from actively providing the civilian leadership they so desperately need, "the military" is out of control and acting on there own.
A bad situation for sure and by every measure.
Which is why America needs a real President.
A real president?
Would you care to enlighten me on that ?
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
Personally I think you got it all wrong. If anything the whitehouse is probably so far removed from actively providing the civilian leadership they so desperately need, "the military" is out of control and acting on there own.
A bad situation for sure and by every measure.
Which is why America needs a real President.
A real president?
Would you care to enlighten me on that ?
I was responding to this comment:
"If anything the whitehouse is probably so far removed from actively providing the civilian leadership they so desperately need, "the military" is out of control and acting on there own."
So if that's the case, America needs a real President who can a) not be removed from the situation and b) thus provide the correct leadership.
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
Personally I think you got it all wrong. If anything the whitehouse is probably so far removed from actively providing the civilian leadership they so desperately need, "the military" is out of control and acting on there own.
A bad situation for sure and by every measure.
Which is why America needs a real President.
A real president?
Would you care to enlighten me on that ?
I was responding to this comment:
"If anything the whitehouse is probably so far removed from actively providing the civilian leadership they so desperately need, "the military" is out of control and acting on there own."
So if that's the case, America needs a real President who can a) not be removed from the situation and b) thus provide the correct leadership.
So you think it's ok for the military to act on their own when adaquate leadership is lacking?
The Obama Administration is playing a very stupid and dangerous game with Russia.
Turkey would not have shot the plane without NATO and of course USA clearance.
I am confused as to why you are cheering for our enemies. The plane violate the air space of a sovereign nation. Turkey didn't need anyone's approval to shoot it down, and frankly, the way Russia has treated its neighbors - I don't blame them.
Cheering our enemies??
There is only one enemy here
His name is Hussein Obama!
Obama is a traitor, he's not acting in the interests of the nation he's meant to protect. He's arming and supporting ISIL, he was cheerleading for the Muslim Brotherhood, who are also fanatics, he's importing even more illegals, he's trying to start crap with Russia and China, he frequently violates not only the Constitution but also his Oath of Office ....he's a traitor and he's dangerous....he should be Impeached actually.
you're a total nut job! Awesome!
Conservatards show their true worth by rooting for the ex-Communist KGB Putin over America.
Conservatards show their true worth by rooting for the ex-Communist KGB Putin over America.
Better to root for an ex-communist rather than for a present one....like Barry.
Conservatards show their true worth by rooting for the ex-Communist KGB Putin over America.
Better to root for an ex-communist rather than for a present one....like Barry.
He's a wannabe commie, like everything else in his miserable life he fucked that up too
