Union workers told to go and listen to tramp or forgo overtime pay

[Fang]

It was overtime pay. I don't know of anyone that gets paid overtime if they don't show up.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
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“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
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Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

Sounds like getting paid to not do a fucking thing but listen. What exactly are you bitching about here ?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
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“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
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Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

So if they show up to the rally representing the business they get overtime (bonus) pay? What’s wrong with that?
Imagine if their wages were garnished to fund trump’s campaign...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
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I wonder if he knew they wouldn't get paid overtime.

So unions are pro-trump now?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
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“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

Your link is not working and is total BS...maybe the rag pulled it because it was BS...

The link for me but like Ringle said no one was forced to go, so I do not get the outrage...

"Attend this or take a pay cut" is being forced to go.

Unions are pro trump? interesting.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Strange. Unions are largely libreral and would never be pressed into going to a Trump rally.

Who would have guessed unions supporting a republican lol

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
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I wonder if he knew they wouldn't get paid overtime.

If they truly objected they didn't have to be there they could have also turned their backs toward Trump when he spoke they didn't do that did they? NOPE.

 

[Penelope]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
snip
“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

Sounds like getting paid to not do a fucking thing but listen. What exactly are you bitching about here ?

I'm sure most of them would rather be working than standing around listening to the old tired talk, it would make the time go faster than just stand around listening to an old man yapping. Rallies are the same old thing, you listen to one and your set to go, I suspect most would much prefer to work, I know I would.

 

[Penelope]

Strange. Unions are largely libreral and would never be pressed into going to a Trump rally.

Who would have guessed unions supporting a republican lol

Not me and most of them probably do not like tramp.

 

[Penelope]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
snip
“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

So if they show up to the rally representing the business they get overtime (bonus) pay? What’s wrong with that?
Imagine if their wages were garnished to fund trump’s campaign...

You mean like the NRA funds supporting this guy, Wayne Lapierre? They should of been given a choice to work.

 

[Penelope]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
snip
“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

Sounds like getting paid to not do a fucking thing but listen. What exactly are you bitching about here ?

Being forced to attend a rally , and not be able to work.

 

[Penelope]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
snip
“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

Your link is not working and is total BS...maybe the rag pulled it because it was BS...

Yes it is. And its not BS.

 

[Penelope]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
snip
“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

Your link is not working and is total BS...maybe the rag pulled it because it was BS...

Yes it is. And its not BS.

 

[Penelope]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
snip
“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

Your link is not working and is total BS...maybe the rag pulled it because it was BS...

My link works just fine and its not BS.

 

[Penelope]

It seems most of the republicans on this thread would rather stand and listen to an old man talk about how he loves the unions, while he doesn't, instread of working, and making the time go fast instead of just standing around listening to lies.

Strange. Unions are largely libreral and would never be pressed into going to a Trump rally.

Yet they did.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Strange. Unions are largely libreral and would never be pressed into going to a Trump rally.

Who would have guessed unions supporting a republican lol

Not me and most of them probably do not like tramp.

But the union masters told them too got it.

 

[MisterBeale]

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
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I wonder if he knew they wouldn't get paid overtime.

Wow.


Guess you now know how all the conservatives feel about Google, Twitter, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc.

 

[Penelope]

And here is tramp bragging:

"It was the Trump administration that made it possible, no one else,” he said. “Without us, you would never have been able to do this."

Although the $6 billion plant was approved before Mr. Trump took office, he said that had Democrat Hillary Clinton won the 2016 election, the facility wouldn't have been permitted to "transform abundant natural gas ... fracked from Pennsylvania wells."

The shale gas rush, aided by horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing, began in earnest in Pennsylvania about 2007 and has grown significantly since then. There are now more than 10,000 gas wells in the state.

It was this growth, and the decades of inventory that gas companies say they have left in the ground, that attracted Shell. The company started working on the plant as early as 2012 — buying the land, doing $80 million worth of environmental remediation and securing key environmental permits before making the final decision to proceed in June 2016.

The plant will take in the natural gas liquid ethane and churn out 3.5 billion pounds of plastic pellets each year.

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"I don't want to be overly crude, but your [steel] business was dead," the president said. "And I put a little thing called a 25% tariff on all of the dumped steel all over the country, and now your business is thriving."

The tariffs were once thought to be such a danger to the construction of the cracker plant that U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., sent multiple letters to the U.S. Department of Commerce asking the administration to reconsider.

Trump takes credit for new Beaver County ethane plant in visit with workers
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tramp, what a piece of work, all lies, and the union doesn't believe a word hes says. He is such a disgrace.

 

[Meathead]

And here is tramp bragging:

"It was the Trump administration that made it possible, no one else,” he said. “Without us, you would never have been able to do this."

Although the $6 billion plant was approved before Mr. Trump took office, he said that had Democrat Hillary Clinton won the 2016 election, the facility wouldn't have been permitted to "transform abundant natural gas ... fracked from Pennsylvania wells."

The shale gas rush, aided by horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing, began in earnest in Pennsylvania about 2007 and has grown significantly since then. There are now more than 10,000 gas wells in the state.

It was this growth, and the decades of inventory that gas companies say they have left in the ground, that attracted Shell. The company started working on the plant as early as 2012 — buying the land, doing $80 million worth of environmental remediation and securing key environmental permits before making the final decision to proceed in June 2016.

The plant will take in the natural gas liquid ethane and churn out 3.5 billion pounds of plastic pellets each year.

Snip

"I don't want to be overly crude, but your [steel] business was dead," the president said. "And I put a little thing called a 25% tariff on all of the dumped steel all over the country, and now your business is thriving."

The tariffs were once thought to be such a danger to the construction of the cracker plant that U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., sent multiple letters to the U.S. Department of Commerce asking the administration to reconsider.

Trump takes credit for new Beaver County ethane plant in visit with workers
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tramp, what a piece of work, all lies, and the union doesn't believe a word hes says. He is such a disgrace.

You are a painfully stupid woman.

 

[Polishprince]

The choice for thousands of union workers at Royal Dutch Shell’s petrochemical plant in Beaver County was to either spend Tuesday standing in a giant hall waiting for President Donald Trump to speak, or to take the day off with no pay.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” read the rules that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site. But only those that showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid.

“NO SCAN, NO PAY,” the rules said.

Those that decided to sit out the event would have an excused absence, the company said, and would not qualify for overtime pay on Friday. The company has a 56-hour workweek with 16 hours of overtime. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work on Friday meeting the overtime threshold are being paid at a rate of time and a half, while those that didn’t go to hear the president are being paid the regular rate, despite the fact that both groups did not do work on the site on Tuesday.
snip
“No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event,” the paper read. “An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

Mr. Trump received a generally warm and at times cheerful welcome at Shell, where he talked about his political grievances and name-called opponents as much as he praised the natural gas extracted in Appalachia, which will be processed at the Shell plant into plastic pellets.

He also called out union leadership, which Shell had requested to be in attendance.

“I’m going to speak to some of your union leaders to say, ‘I hope you’re going to support Trump.’ OK?” he said. “And if they don’t, vote them the hell out of office because they’re not doing their job.”

Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid
-----------------------------------------------
Forced attendance if you want to get paid for overtime.

These are unionized workers, if the union thought their members were being abused, they should have called a strike.