Tyrant Obama Admin: Files lawsuit to force Boeing to use union labor!!! WOW!!

[bripat9643]

the best thing that could ever happen is for boeing to move everything out of washington state and let those socialist bastards and liberal weenies loose there jobs.... i am glad that south carolina workers are non workers. they are the true americans, not a bunch of pansey ass entitlement mentality libbies whining about everything under the sun, and, getting paid much more than the average washington employee.

This plant is just the first step, and Boeing's union employees know it. I doubt you'll see anymore strikes in Washington.

 

[idb]

Does anyone actually know if Boeing has broken any laws in moving production?

Also, is the NLRB compelled to act if a complaint is laid?

 

[Too Tall]

This lawsuit is simply fed showboating for the base prior to the 2012 elections. It will never go anywhere serious.

That said from a pure $$$$$$$ viewpoint when the bottomline is calculated say 5 - 7 years from now it will be obvious that the SC plant is sooooo very much less productive than the WA facility in producing the 787 that those union wages will be seen as a bargain. If the company execs were not taking the union boss vs ceo headbutting so personal & just looked at business they would already recognise that the current non-union parts plant they have near the new site is a huge white-elephant and a major drain on profits. The assemby plant will fare no better.

You'll probably see the opposite of what you suggest. Unions take away the incentive from the workers, no matter how hard you work, your going to get paid the same as the lazy ass who is protected under the union. Probably will end up with a better product and less rework for the same reason as mentioned before.

Doubtful very doubtful. While it may well be true that unionized government work forces are often unmotivated and unproductive such is NOT true of the unionized private sector workers I have seen in the Midwest and Pacific Northwest. Those folks are the sort who do a fine job of managing both quality and quantity of output on the shop floor. Main 'problem' with the workforce is that it will also be pretty diligent & unbending regarding management attempts to dodge the terms of signed contracts. The culture places a high value on being serious about work. The deep south (Carolinas thru LA) has a different culture. People are often burst workers- hit it hard for a long day & then slack off rather than maintaining a continuous steady pace which accomodates the task being paid for. Take a bunch of these folks suddening going from $5 an hour clerking at the 'sack of suds' to $15 at the new factory and lots of 'em are gonna decise that they have enough money for the week working thru wednesday and just disappear the rest of the week. Good quality is also going to require much closer inspection of output. That is expensive. Heck the low level of/poor quality of education among the locals is going to be an issue.

You should tell this nonsense to Mercedes Benz BEFORE they built a factory in Alabama. Toyota probably rues the day that that they opened plants in Alabama, Kentucky, West Virginia, San Antonio, and Mississippi. BMW also has a new plant in So Carolina. I could go on and mention the Lockheed plant in Georgia but my point is that the work ethic in the southern states equals or exceeds that in many other regions of the US.

 

[Bosun]

the best thing that could ever happen is for boeing to move everything out of washington state and let those socialist bastards and liberal weenies loose there jobs.... i am glad that south carolina workers are non workers. they are the true americans, not a bunch of pansey ass entitlement mentality libbies whining about everything under the sun, and, getting paid much more than the average washington employee.

This plant is just the first step, and Boeing's union employees know it. I doubt you'll see anymore strikes in Washington.

word has it that the machinists union is starting to plan another strike... they want to go on vacation and support airbus for a few months......socialism is rather stupid.

 

[Robert]

the best thing that could ever happen is for boeing to move everything out of washington state and let those socialist bastards and liberal weenies loose there jobs.... i am glad that south carolina workers are non workers. they are the true americans, not a bunch of pansey ass entitlement mentality libbies whining about everything under the sun, and, getting paid much more than the average washington employee.

This plant is just the first step, and Boeing's union employees know it. I doubt you'll see anymore strikes in Washington.

Oh never under estimate the idiocy of that Union.

 

[signelect]

Obama has been buying votes since he got our of school, I think he graduated but his records are sealed so who know. Buying votes is the way he was trained and with due respect you have to admit he learned well.

Boeing can build a plant any where it wants and employ whom ever it wants. Unions are less than 20% of the work force for a reason. Scabs are a festering sore, sounds like union to me

 

[Trajan]

Does anyone actually know if Boeing has broken any laws in moving production?

Also, is the NLRB compelled to act if a complaint is laid?

thx for speaking to the like , you know, TOPIC....

First- they are not MOVING any production, they are creating production in SC instead of Wash. state.


Second- I think they would be, and this is perfectly fine. The NLRB in fact has a duty if called upon to look at complaints straight way unless they are so frivolous that they can be tossed posthaste.

This complaint? I don't think it has a leg to stand on, the NLRB is looking at it because the union has made it appear as if or have attempted to create the template as to some contractual agreement having been broken....*shrugs*.

I personally don’t think this will go anywhere, but in any event, they need to make this quick, hanging Boeing out to dry is BS. The unions waited a year to file, so as to get the numbers on the NLRB that would be sympathetic to their cause. they could have filed this a year ago...or more...

 

[Steve Hanson]

Boeing lawsuit: South Carolina vs. big labor | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment

My God, are we now the USSA?? (For stupid libs, thats akin to USSR, which to also add, is bad).

The Obama Admin has now filed a lawsuit against Boeing. Why? Boeing was tired of dealing with unions in Seattle. So, they took their new Dreamliner production planet, and built it in non-union North Charleston, South Caroline, bringing 5,000-8,000 good paying jobs to the area. The planet in SC is almost finished, with work about to start.

Now Tyrant Obama has filed a federal lawsuit claiming, get this, DISCRIMINATION!!!! They say Boeing is discriminating against union workers.....by daring build a plant in non-union South Carolina. Our federal government is trying to force a private company to use their preferred labor pool. The lawsuit seeks to force Boeing to relocate that new plant in SC back to Seattle.

Never in my wildest imagination could I have thought the United States government would begin filing lawsuits to force a private company to locate it's operations in the politicially preferred choice of the US government. It's basically a political assault on right wing South Carolina. Tyrant tactics, no doubt about it. Chicago thuggery in plain sight.

So now, even if Boeing wins that lawsuit, which they will, Boeing is gonna have to shell out millions of dollars to defend this suit.

Is this how Obama's Admin is gonna do business? SUE companies that provide jobs....for daring not use union labor? Punish states that voted against him with lawsuits against any non-union company within it's borders?

How anyone can continue to support Tyrant Obama baffles me.

What an absolute travesty.

 

[AmericanFirst]

I know it boggles the mind doesn't it. The more efficient way would be to do like Reagan did with the air traffic controlers.

Yep. Unions + obamaturd = socialism.

 

[Meister]

Like I said earlier, this is a campaign year.
Obama is reaching out to his entire base....Hammering on a rich and evil big corporation, and also to his union base. How transparent can he be?

 

[Sarah G]

Like I said earlier, this is a campaign year.
Obama is reaching out to his entire base....Hammering on a rich and evil big corporation, and also to his union base. How transparent can he be?

He's a brilliant campaigner second only to Big Bill Clinton. Republicans just don't know how to do this, they always have to have the scotus step in on their behalf.

 

[Meister]

Like I said earlier, this is a campaign year.
Obama is reaching out to his entire base....Hammering on a rich and evil big corporation, and also to his union base. How transparent can he be?

He's a brilliant campaigner second only to Big Bill Clinton. Republicans just don't know how to do this, they always have to have the scotus step in on their behalf.

Seems they both need to go to the courts to get what they want, huh?

 

[manifold]

453 posts deep and still not one SINGLE attempt to defend the merits of the case itself.

But whatcha gonna do?

 

[theHawk]

Boeing lawsuit: South Carolina vs. big labor | The Post and Courier, Charleston SC - News, Sports, Entertainment

My God, are we now the USSA?? (For stupid libs, thats akin to USSR, which to also add, is bad).

The Obama Admin has now filed a lawsuit against Boeing. Why? Boeing was tired of dealing with unions in Seattle. So, they took their new Dreamliner production planet, and built it in non-union North Charleston, South Caroline, bringing 5,000-8,000 good paying jobs to the area. The planet in SC is almost finished, with work about to start.

Now Tyrant Obama has filed a federal lawsuit claiming, get this, DISCRIMINATION!!!! They say Boeing is discriminating against union workers.....by daring build a plant in non-union South Carolina. Our federal government is trying to force a private company to use their preferred labor pool. The lawsuit seeks to force Boeing to relocate that new plant in SC back to Seattle.

Never in my wildest imagination could I have thought the United States government would begin filing lawsuits to force a private company to locate it's operations in the politicially preferred choice of the US government. It's basically a political assault on right wing South Carolina. Tyrant tactics, no doubt about it. Chicago thuggery in plain sight.

So now, even if Boeing wins that lawsuit, which they will, Boeing is gonna have to shell out millions of dollars to defend this suit.

Is this how Obama's Admin is gonna do business? SUE companies that provide jobs....for daring not use union labor? Punish states that voted against him with lawsuits against any non-union company within it's borders?

How anyone can continue to support Tyrant Obama baffles me.

What a disgusting sack of shit we have for a President.

 

[Trajan]

Like I said earlier, this is a campaign year.
Obama is reaching out to his entire base....Hammering on a rich and evil big corporation, and also to his union base. How transparent can he be?

He's a brilliant campaigner second only to Big Bill Clinton. Republicans just don't know how to do this, they always have to have the scotus step in on their behalf.

why yes bill was so good he didn't get to 50% his first time round

 

[The T]

Washinton state should let Boeing exercise it's right to move but exercise it's right to tax anything from Boeing or South Carolina.

You ever hear of the Constitution? States do not have a right to tax other states, nor do they have a right to tax specific countries. In fact, governments do not have rights. If you were not an idiot I would point out how stupid you are for confusing what rights are, but I really do not expect much from people who graduate from public shool anymore.

Obviously the idiot never heard of the Commerce Clause...

 

[The T]

The typical liberal has no freakin clue what the Constitution means or says.

However, Obama does. Obama was a Constitutional scholar, or so we're told. He knows exactly what it says. In fact, in his own words, he expresses his disappointment in that the Constitution tells the government "what it can't do to the people.....but doesn't say much about what it can do." Those are Obama's exact words. He knows the Constitution is a roadblock to his agenda. The bastard is evil. But he's also smart. Very dangerous. And he is in fact a bastard, by definition.

And this needs to be said...Obama is the American equivalent to Hugo Chavez...

 

[The T]

You'll probably see the opposite of what you suggest. Unions take away the incentive from the workers, no matter how hard you work, your going to get paid the same as the lazy ass who is protected under the union. Probably will end up with a better product and less rework for the same reason as mentioned before.

Doubtful very doubtful. While it may well be true that unionized government work forces are often unmotivated and unproductive such is NOT true of the unionized private sector workers I have seen in the Midwest and Pacific Northwest. Those folks are the sort who do a fine job of managing both quality and quantity of output on the shop floor. Main 'problem' with the workforce is that it will also be pretty diligent & unbending regarding management attempts to dodge the terms of signed contracts. The culture places a high value on being serious about work. The deep south (Carolinas thru LA) has a different culture. People are often burst workers- hit it hard for a long day & then slack off rather than maintaining a continuous steady pace which accomodates the task being paid for. Take a bunch of these folks suddening going from $5 an hour clerking at the 'sack of suds' to $15 at the new factory and lots of 'em are gonna decise that they have enough money for the week working thru wednesday and just disappear the rest of the week. Good quality is also going to require much closer inspection of output. That is expensive. Heck the low level of/poor quality of education among the locals is going to be an issue.

You should tell this nonsense to Mercedes Benz BEFORE they built a factory in Alabama. Toyota probably rues the day that that they opened plants in Alabama, Kentucky, West Virginia, San Antonio, and Mississippi. BMW also has a new plant in So Carolina. I could go on and mention the Lockheed plant in Georgia but my point is that the work ethic in the southern states equals or exceeds that in many other regions of the US.

Mercedes also has a Tech Facility here where I live...I know because I've done technical radio work for them....[Florida]

 

[The T]

Like I said earlier, this is a campaign year.
Obama is reaching out to his entire base....Hammering on a rich and evil big corporation, and also to his union base. How transparent can he be?

He's a brilliant campaigner second only to Big Bill Clinton. Republicans just don't know how to do this, they always have to have the scotus step in on their behalf.

why yes bill was so good he didn't get a to 50% his first time round

He didn't make it above 50% for the second time around either...

 

[The T]

Like I said earlier, this is a campaign year.
Obama is reaching out to his entire base....Hammering on a rich and evil big corporation, and also to his union base. How transparent can he be?

He's a brilliant campaigner second only to Big Bill Clinton. Republicans just don't know how to do this, they always have to have the scotus step in on their behalf.

Seems they both need to go to the courts to get what they want, huh?

Indeed. And Why Jefferson called the Judicial the most despotic Branch...