Hey for all you Rightwing who are declaring war against Jihadists and ISIS (calling out Obama and Democrats for apologizing and enabling terrorists):
I actually met a fellow Liberal Democrat who GETS that the movement behind ISIS is dangerous, and has been cultivated as a religious Antichrist force for centuries from the founding of the Islamic traditions.
So I GET the problem, but I frame it in terms of POLITICAL abuse of govt and military power to bypass "due process of laws" where the problem is rooted in counties WITHOUT Constitutional checks on govt. I see it as a POLITICAL religion and POLITICAL war.
And my Liberal friend frames it in terms of Spiritual battle between good and evil, RELIGIOUS institutions of the Antichrist forces (under a FALSE GOD of death and war, pushing to set up this Caliphate to call all Muslims worldwide into the final battle of Armaggeddon) vs. Christ and the Catholic Church on the side of the REAL God, where this understanding comes from a LIBERAL Christian perspective AND DOES NOT APOLOGIZE OR SYMPATHIZE WITH MUSLIMS.
My friend cited cases where a Muslim maid hired by a family got threatened with death if they did not convert. And the maid carried through with the threat to cut their heads off. So this is part of their beliefs. They'd been building and building, and now that they have seized land they are launching an all out war.
So if any of you who don't believe that Liberals are capable of getting this, I want you to know I did find a fellow Democrat, who is more traditional Liberal than I am. Even blames Republicans for being evil bigots and the whole Liberal Spiel (had Republican parents who reinforced this idea of being selfish and not wanting to help the poor, so much that this person decided to become a Democrat and even believe in the ACA as doing more good).
And this Liberal Democrat GETS IT! YES!!!
Even more against the religious Jihadists, whereas I as a Constitutionalist will at least work with the Muslims who believe in invoking and enforcing Natural Laws and Constitutional Laws to stop the abuses and genocide and establish law and order the same as Christians and Constitutionalists seek to do by invoking authority of law.
This person is more liberal than I am, and is more opposed to the Islamic movements.
Makes me look sympathetic in comparison.
I will try to get my friend to post here.
It is interesting to find such a person with a spiritual angle that doesn't fit either mold.
Generally more traditional leftwing, but with a Christian spiritual belief that intersects and aligns with the rightwing. Only missing the Constitutional angle that I have which aligns with the rightwing.
American_Jihad irosie91 and anyone else who doesn't think Liberals get how serious this is. How can we stand together and put down this scourge faster. Why let these problems "divide and conquer us" if we AGREE this political genocide needs to be wiped out. I understand from a Constitutionalist viewpoint, where I do include Muslims who seek to enforce natural laws of democracy like other Constitutionalists; and my friend understands this as a religious battle between Christ and Antichrist. We are both Liberal Progressives and we get it. How can we unite so that we can win this war on both fronts, both the church and the state.
I actually met a fellow Liberal Democrat who GETS that the movement behind ISIS is dangerous, and has been cultivated as a religious Antichrist force for centuries from the founding of the Islamic traditions.
So I GET the problem, but I frame it in terms of POLITICAL abuse of govt and military power to bypass "due process of laws" where the problem is rooted in counties WITHOUT Constitutional checks on govt. I see it as a POLITICAL religion and POLITICAL war.
And my Liberal friend frames it in terms of Spiritual battle between good and evil, RELIGIOUS institutions of the Antichrist forces (under a FALSE GOD of death and war, pushing to set up this Caliphate to call all Muslims worldwide into the final battle of Armaggeddon) vs. Christ and the Catholic Church on the side of the REAL God, where this understanding comes from a LIBERAL Christian perspective AND DOES NOT APOLOGIZE OR SYMPATHIZE WITH MUSLIMS.
My friend cited cases where a Muslim maid hired by a family got threatened with death if they did not convert. And the maid carried through with the threat to cut their heads off. So this is part of their beliefs. They'd been building and building, and now that they have seized land they are launching an all out war.
So if any of you who don't believe that Liberals are capable of getting this, I want you to know I did find a fellow Democrat, who is more traditional Liberal than I am. Even blames Republicans for being evil bigots and the whole Liberal Spiel (had Republican parents who reinforced this idea of being selfish and not wanting to help the poor, so much that this person decided to become a Democrat and even believe in the ACA as doing more good).
And this Liberal Democrat GETS IT! YES!!!
Even more against the religious Jihadists, whereas I as a Constitutionalist will at least work with the Muslims who believe in invoking and enforcing Natural Laws and Constitutional Laws to stop the abuses and genocide and establish law and order the same as Christians and Constitutionalists seek to do by invoking authority of law.
This person is more liberal than I am, and is more opposed to the Islamic movements.
Makes me look sympathetic in comparison.
I will try to get my friend to post here.
It is interesting to find such a person with a spiritual angle that doesn't fit either mold.
Generally more traditional leftwing, but with a Christian spiritual belief that intersects and aligns with the rightwing. Only missing the Constitutional angle that I have which aligns with the rightwing.
American_Jihad irosie91 and anyone else who doesn't think Liberals get how serious this is. How can we stand together and put down this scourge faster. Why let these problems "divide and conquer us" if we AGREE this political genocide needs to be wiped out. I understand from a Constitutionalist viewpoint, where I do include Muslims who seek to enforce natural laws of democracy like other Constitutionalists; and my friend understands this as a religious battle between Christ and Antichrist. We are both Liberal Progressives and we get it. How can we unite so that we can win this war on both fronts, both the church and the state.
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