Turns out that even the skeptics agree, the earth is warming abnormally

[Toddsterpatriot]

so we have 7-8 million years of data to compare this abnormal warming to?

I hate to break it to ya.... the earth warms and cools all on its own at both slow and fast rates.

How about this! We have a climate expert on the board. Please, explain to us in scientific terms how this happens, your statement of the eart cooling on its own at both slow and fast rates?
Now if Dr. Muller was to come out and say that climate change is a big LIE, the right wing nuts on this board would be shouting his claims and credentials from every mountain top.
They are, without a doubt, the biggest hypocrites in the US.
Even with the Herman Cain incident. They chastised President Clinton, but are willing to let this pass without proof.

The warmers want us to cripple our economy to stop a rise in CO2 which may, or may not, be contributing to a rise in global temperature, which may or may not be a bad thing.
And the way you want to arrive at this lower level of CO2 output is to give government even more control over our lives and our economy.

If you were serious about wanting to reduce CO2, without hurting our economy, you'd be pushing for dozens of new nuclear power plants, which actually work, instead of solar and wind, which don't.

 

[daveman]

This is hysterical.

The Koch brothers hire a skeptic to disprove global warming, and he ends up proving it and changing his mind.

Science triumphs over stupidity.

He only "proved" it by lying. So he fits right in with the other AGW cultists.

If you have to lie to make your point, your point isn't worth making.

 

[daveman]

Climate Skeptics Take Another Hit | Mother Jones

Climate Change Deniers Abandon ‘Befuddled Warmist’ Physicist Who Came Around On Global Warming | TPMDC

Koch-Funded Climate Skeptic's Own Data Confirms Warming | AlterNet

Idiot.

Scientists who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague | Mail Online

Maybe you were the idiot for biting on that story.

You were the idiot for buying into the OP.

 

[daveman]

Idiot.

Scientists who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague | Mail Online

Maybe you were the idiot for biting on that story.

Uh-huh...Who would know that Muller is lying out his ass better than the woman who was working with him?

Imbecile.

No, no, no. Anonymous internet message board posters who have no education and training in science are more reliable than climate scientists -- at least, the ones who haven't drunk the AGW Kool-Aid.

 

[daveman]

Right wingers say global warming is about as "real" as evolution.

You dumbass...making shit up...science does show that it is changing...but it isn't man doing it...and evolution does happen...as it does with the Earth itself...it changed many times in it's supposed 4-5 billion year history...even before we ever arrived on the scene.

It's vain arrogant dopes like you that thinks man can do thing he will never be capable of. There are larger forces at work...much larger than man.

Rightwingers don't believe in science, only 6% of scientists are Repugs.

We don't believe in leftist science, which is politically driven. We believe in real science.

You will predictably screech "Nuh-UH!!", as if that proves anything except what a dolt you are.

 

[paulitician]

Bring on the warming. Doesn't sound so bad to me. I'm certainly not gonna freak out over it. Life's just too short to worry about this stuff. Just live and enjoy the short time you have on this earth. It really does go by very quickly.

 

[The T]

You dumbass...making shit up...science does show that it is changing...but it isn't man doing it...and evolution does happen...as it does with the Earth itself...it changed many times in it's supposed 4-5 billion year history...even before we ever arrived on the scene.

It's vain arrogant dopes like you that thinks man can do thing he will never be capable of. There are larger forces at work...much larger than man.

Rightwingers don't believe in science, only 6% of scientists are Repugs.

We don't believe in leftist science, which is politically driven. We believe in real science.


You will predictably screech "Nuh-UH!!", as if that proves anything except what a dolt you are.

Yep.

 

[paulitician]

And the fact this OP took the time to post this on a Political Message Board tells you Global Warming is all about a political agenda. It has very little to do with real science at this point. I don't waste my time worrying about it. And you shouldn't either.

 

[The T]

And the fact this OP took the time to post this on a Political Message Board tells you Global Warming is all about a political agenda. It has very little to do with real science at this point. I don't waste my time worrying about it. And you shouldn't either.

Correct. And what is abnormal in the entire few billion years the Earth was formed?

Most of this is based upon HUMAN history...and quite vain and arrogant on the part of the AGW nutburgers.

 

[Vast LWC]

This is hysterical.

The Koch brothers hire a skeptic to disprove global warming, and he ends up proving it and changing his mind.

Science triumphs over stupidity.

He only "proved" it by lying. So he fits right in with the other AGW cultists.

I'm sorry, but what the fuck are you talking about?

Now, the skeptics are liars because they changed their minds after discovering proof that they were incorrect?

Wow, that is some SERIOUS brainwashing you have going on there.

 

[Vast LWC]

Are ANY of you familiar with the term "confirmation bias"?

It means, put simply, that you will not accept any information that contradicts what you believe, EVER, and will believe any evidence that supports your assumption, no matter how flimsy.

If what you believe is disproved beyond the shadow of a doubt, you will simply find some other rationalization to prove what you thought all along, in some other way.

That is why there is a portion of the population that will never believe Obama was born in Hawaii, that we landed on the moon, that 9/11 wasn't a con job, and that the earth is round.

It's really no use arguing with people like that. Because no matter what you say or do, you will never, ever accept anything that contradicts your beliefs.

 

[paulitician]

Yea but who cares? Life is so short. Don't waste valuable time worrying about this kind of stuff. Just live and enjoy your short time on this Planet. You really wont be here very long. So quit stressing over "Global Warming" or "Global Cooling." Just live.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Anybody that ever doubted Global Warming has some serious psychological issues.

The same is true of people that believed that the President was not born in the U.S.A.

Also, of those that do not believe that there is a serious problem with wealth distribution.

Not surprising that these nut cases are all the same people!

....And, all belong to the same Party.

11-Degree Temperature Rise!!

 

[paulitician]

Please send some of it my way. I'm freezin my ass off. Global Warming has been so over-hyped and fear mongered. Many are now just tuning out. Once it became cult-like and a policial movement,it lost most common sense thinking people. Now it's all about religious zealotry and World Socialist control of the People. And Global Warming really isn't much to worry about anyway. Now Global Cooling on the other hand? That's a whole different matter.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Anybody that ever doubted Global Warming has some serious psychological issues.

The same is true of people that believed that the President was not born in the U.S.A.

Also, of those that do not believe that there is a serious problem with wealth distribution.

Not surprising that these nut cases are all the same people!

....And, all belong to the same Party.

11-Degree Temperature Rise!!

Quick, destroy the economy, before it gets warm.
If we don't do something fast, the Vikings will recolonize Greenland. We'll be doomed!!

 

[Chris]

Please send some of it my way. I'm freezin my ass off. Global Warming has been so over-hyped and fear mongered. Many are now just tuning out. Once it became cult-like and a policial movement,it lost most common sense thinking people. Now it's all about religious zealotry and World Socialist control of the People. And Global Warming really isn't much to worry about anyway. Now Global Cooling on the other hand? That's a whole different matter.

Sounds like someone else is over hyped.

40% of the North Polar ice cap has melted in the last 50 years.

If the Greenland ice cap and Antartica melt the consequences for future generations are dramatic.

Luckily, the hole in the ozone that we created is keeping Antarctic cooler than it would normally be.

And rantings like "World Socialist control of the People" make you sound silly.

We will move away from oil and coal to energy production at home, the exact opposite of government control. Everyone will produce their own energy in the future.

 

[paulitician]

Please send some of it my way. I'm freezin my ass off. Global Warming has been so over-hyped and fear mongered. Many are now just tuning out. Once it became cult-like and a policial movement,it lost most common sense thinking people. Now it's all about religious zealotry and World Socialist control of the People. And Global Warming really isn't much to worry about anyway. Now Global Cooling on the other hand? That's a whole different matter.

Sounds like someone else is over hyped.

40% of the North Polar ice cap has melted in the last 50 years.

If the Greenland ice cap and Antartica melt the consequences for future generations are dramatic.

Luckily, the hole in the ozone that we created is keeping Antarctic cooler than it would normally be.

And rantings like "World Socialist control of the People" make you sound silly.

We will move away from oil and coal to energy production at home, the exact opposite of government control. Everyone will produce their own energy in the future.

Cool. Then there's no reason to continue fear-mongering it up anymore. We'll survive just fine,which is what i've always said. Global Warming will not be the end of us. Now Global Cooling could be something to get worried about. That has been proven to be deadly for the Planet's inhabitants in the past. Global Cooling would be catastrophic for the Earth.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Please send some of it my way. I'm freezin my ass off. Global Warming has been so over-hyped and fear mongered. Many are now just tuning out. Once it became cult-like and a policial movement,it lost most common sense thinking people. Now it's all about religious zealotry and World Socialist control of the People. And Global Warming really isn't much to worry about anyway. Now Global Cooling on the other hand? That's a whole different matter.

Sounds like someone else is over hyped.

40% of the North Polar ice cap has melted in the last 50 years.

If the Greenland ice cap and Antartica melt the consequences for future generations are dramatic.

Luckily, the hole in the ozone that we created is keeping Antarctic cooler than it would normally be.

And rantings like "World Socialist control of the People" make you sound silly.

We will move away from oil and coal to energy production at home, the exact opposite of government control. Everyone will produce their own energy in the future.

Everyone? Sounds expensive and inefficient.

 

[paulitician]

Please send some of it my way. I'm freezin my ass off. Global Warming has been so over-hyped and fear mongered. Many are now just tuning out. Once it became cult-like and a policial movement,it lost most common sense thinking people. Now it's all about religious zealotry and World Socialist control of the People. And Global Warming really isn't much to worry about anyway. Now Global Cooling on the other hand? That's a whole different matter.

Sounds like someone else is over hyped.

40% of the North Polar ice cap has melted in the last 50 years.

If the Greenland ice cap and Antartica melt the consequences for future generations are dramatic.

Luckily, the hole in the ozone that we created is keeping Antarctic cooler than it would normally be.

And rantings like "World Socialist control of the People" make you sound silly.

We will move away from oil and coal to energy production at home, the exact opposite of government control. Everyone will produce their own energy in the future.

Big Government will never allow you to go off the grid. That's just a pipe-dream. You will always be forced to pay Big Government for your energy. It's always about control. Don't kid yourself on that.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Right wingers say global warming is about as "real" as evolution.

Really? Got a link?