Turkey to shape new patterns within Muslim world

[Iridescence]

Sadly, I am not around anyone who plays Monopoly or Chess but the strategic alignments of partnerships better sense to me when people argue over the ruffles and lace.

 

[Iridescence]

The human rights issue?

Turkey's Human Rights Record Impedes European Integration

When asked about the denial of EU membership to Turkey, European politicians will invariably cite human rights concerns. While the concern is genuine, this response might also be triggered by the fact that human rights is a more politically correct reason than the many other legitimate reasons for Europe to doubt Turkey's ability to uphold the obligations of a member state. A more honest response might cite Turkey's financial instability, particularly its very high inflation rate; the animosity between Turkey and Greece, which is already an EU member, over Cyprus and other issues; and fear that open immigration between Turkey and other member states would result in a flood of immigrants because of the Kurdish conflict and because Turkey's standard of living is still lower than most member states. In addition, there may be some legitimacy to the claim by Turkey that the EU is afraid to admit a country which is over 99% Islamic, even if it is a secular state.

Even if human rights are not the EU's primary concern, international criticism, coupled with Ankara's strong desire to join the EU, may provide Turkey with an incentive to improve its human rights standards. Turkey's efforts to woo Europe have so far resulted at least in superficial improvements such as the creation of a parliamentary commission on human rights, although the effectiveness of this commission is far from apparent at this point. In 1995 Turkey also amended the much-criticized Article 8 of its Anti-Terrorist Law to lower the penalties and raise the burden of proof to require that the prosecutor at least prove seditious intent. Because the amendment was retroactive, over 100 prisoners were released just before the European Parliament was to vote on whether to approve the Customs Union with Turkey. These 100 prisoners represent a mere fraction of the total number still imprisoned under the Anti-Terrorist Law, but their release is certainly a step in the right direction.

The outcome of the struggle for human rights is crucial to Turkey's future. The Turkish people, for the most part, see themselves as Europeans and resent the constant criticisms of their internal politics. It is clear, however, that there are legitimate concerns about the ability of Turkey to live up to the human rights standards expected among European nations.

I'm not snubbing my nose at human rights issues... I'm only doubting that it would be the main factor because of the obvious history of the middle east.

 

[ekrem]

Your link is from 1997.
Since then a lot of water has run down the Tigris.
And the financial unstable country is not Turkey anymore, but many EU countries.

 

[Iridescence]

I knew it was an older link but it says the same basic things I hear to be the concern of today's Turkey.

The more current issue: http://www.wcl.american.edu/hrbrief/18/3tabbara.pdf?rd=1

AND it is probably at this point better to add that Turkey is only one middle eastern country who's human rights violations are being discussed here. There is much more at hand than what Turkey brings to the table.

 

[CMike]

 

[Ropey]

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And you are one of the anti-semitic supporters. No guts to post in here, but guts to neg.

Come on bones, show your backbone.

After you have a few tokes that is.

Unless you forget...

 

[Iridescence]

Ropey, I won't post our pms unless I have to as they don't reveal anything you haven't already on the board. When posters reveal things about Israel and/or about Jews why do you take it personally? Are you a rep for all the Jews? Do you all carry the same scars? The same load? Sharing the same faults? What about Israel? Are you just as sensitive toward anyone exposing potential truths toward Israel? Like the fact that they have human rights violations as well? Should we maybe make another topic specifically about Israel so that you could maybe reign there? I am not poking you so neg rep me all you like, I am genuinely attempting to understand why you are so certain when someone posts about Jews that they are referring to YOU.

 

[Ropey]

Ropey, I won't post our pms unless I have to as they don't reveal anything you haven't already on the board. When posters reveal things about Israel and/or about Jews why do you take it personally? Are you a rep for all the Jews? Do you all carry the same scars? The same load? Sharing the same faults? What about Israel? Are you just as sensitive toward anyone exposing potential truths toward Israel? Like the fact that they have human rights violations as well? Should we maybe make another topic specifically about Israel so that you could maybe reign there? I am not poking you so neg rep me all you like, I am genuinely attempting to understand why you are so certain when someone posts about Jews that they are referring to YOU.

Post whatever you like. I will never pm you again since you are so willing to post my words in pm out here. (too bad they are the same eh?)

This is a thread about "Turkey to shape new patterns within Muslim world" but Sunni Man jumped it into being about Jews and you accelerated that when you also targeted (your words) the OP with a statement about Jews and the Holocaust.

Now you try and turn it into it being an attack on me? Your post about the Jews having some members who deny the holocaust was as history shows.

"Turkey to shape new patterns within Muslim world"

^^ OP

I don't know what passes as thinking in your frame of reference, but it sure seems rather vapid to me.

 

[JStone]

I knew it was an older link but it says the same basic things I hear to be the concern of today's Turkey.

The more current issue: http://www.wcl.american.edu/hrbrief/18/3tabbara.pdf?rd=1

AND it is probably at this point better to add that Turkey is only one middle eastern country who's human rights violations are being discussed here. There is much more at hand than what Turkey brings to the table.

Turkey brings little to the table. How many Nobel Prize winners has Turkey produced among its 80 million Muslims? Not one. What products does Turkey export that have global demand? Not one. Turkey is just another backward Islamic shithole that makes no meaningful contribution to the world.

 

[Unkotare]

what products does turkey export that have global demand?

a-b turkish export products
abrasive,crude stones,raw,in pieces
abrasive,on fabric base
abrasive,on paper base
abrasive,other base
accordions similar instruments, mouth organs
acetals,hemiacetals,etc.
Acetic acid and its salt
acetone
acid dyes, mordant dyes
acrilonytrile,butadien,styrene,a-b-s copolymers
acrylic, modacrylic fibres=>%85
acrylonitrile
acrylonitrl-butadien rubber
activated carbon
activated natural minerals
acyclic aldehydes(not oxygen functioned)
acyclic amides,derivatives,salts(acyclic carbamates)
acyclic hydrocarbons- nes
acyclic monoamines,salts,derivatives
acyclic polyamines and their derivatives-salts thereof
acyclic,aromatic ethers,halogenic,sulphone,nitrose derivatives
additives for petroleum and bitumene based lubricant oils
addressing,embossing machines
adjustable capacitors
adjustable swivel seats
adrenal cortical hormone
agricultural sprayers c-d-e- turkish export products
cabbage,similar edible brassicas fresh or chilled
cable bending,mixing machines,aircraft supplies
cacao crusts,inner and outer membranes,residues
cadmium not manufactured scraps,wastes
caffeine and its salts
calcium and ammonium nitrate-double salts and mixtures
calcium carbide
calcium carbonate,barium carbonate, and other carbonates
calcium chloride
calcium cyanamide
calcium,strontium,barium,rare metals
calculating cash registers
calendering etc.machines
camphor
camping goods, nes
canary seed, unmilled
candles,tapers,etc.
Cane sugar, raw
canned mushrooms not pickled
canned potatoes,(unpickled,non acetic acidic,frozen)
canned tomatoes,pastes not pickled,nes
capsicum,pimento peppers,dry,crushed,ground
carbide tool tips etc.
Carbides,excluding calcium(silisium carbure)
carbon electrodes,etc.
Carbon nes,carbon black
carbon paper,(width=>36cm rolled plates)
carbon paper,etc.cut
f-g-h-i turkish export products
fabric %85 combed wool,other
fabric <85% carded wool,other
fabric artificial stpl mixed with cotton <%85
fabric containing <85% carded wool,m-made
fabric, artificial staple m-made
fabric, artificial stpl mixed with other
fabric, artificial stpl mixed with wool <% 85
fabric,<85% of flax
fabric,85% of flax
fabric,artificial stpl.fibres=>%85
fabric,bonded synthetic
fabric,containing %85 wool,hair,card
fabric,containing <85% combed wool,m-made
fabric,containing 85% wool,hair,comb
fabric,hi-ten.rayon yarn
fabric,hi-tenc.nylon,etc
fabric,warp without weft
fabric,woven coarse hair
fabric,woven glass fibre
fabric,woven jute,other textiles
fabric,woven metal thread
fabric,woven vegetable textile fibres
fabric,woven,artificial filaments <%85
fabricated <85% other synthetic fibres m2>170g
fabricated <85% synthetic wool,hair
fabricated <85%,polyesther m2>170g
fabricated polyesther m2<=170g;<%85
fabricated synthetic fibres,nes
fabrics of noil silk

j-k-l-m turkish export products
jackets and blazers
jackets,blazers(for women)
jackets,blazers,mens &boys knit
jackets,women girls,knit
jams,jellies,marmalades
jersys,pullovers,etc.knit
juice,other citrus fruit(sweetened or unsweetened)
juice,other fruit or vegetables(sweetened or unsweetened)
jute and other textile bast fibres,raw or retted
jute and wastes
kaolin, kaolinic clays
keyboard instruments sound produced/amplified electrically
keyboard pipe organs, harmoniums,keyboard instruments
kitchen furniture, wood
knee type milling machines numeric controlled
knit garment impregnable fabric
knit gloves,impregnated
knitted crochet fabrics,nes
knitting,stitchbond machines
knives
kraft paper, uncoated
kraft paper,150-225g/m2
kraft paper,coated<150g/m2
kraft paper,over 225g/m2
kraft paper,uncoated <150g/m2
labels,other not embroidered
labels,woven not embroidered
lace, hand-made
lace, mechanically made
lactams n-o turkish export products
nails,etc.copper
nails,tacks,etc.aluminum
nails,tacks,etc.iron,steel
name-plates,etc.base metal
narrow woven pile fabric
natural barium sulphate,carbonate
natural borates and concent
natural calcium phosphate-unground
natural calcium,aluminium calcium phosphates,ground
natural gas, liquefied
natural honey
natural magnesium carbonate
natural pearls
natural polymers,derivatives of natural rubber
natural rubber as smoked sheets
natural rubber latex
natural sponges
natural uranium and its compound,alloys,dispersions
natural,abrasive,worked stones
navigational instruments,direction finding compases
needle roller bearings
needleloom felt etc.
Needles,sewing.knitting,etc
netting of twine, rope
neutral sodium carbonate
newspapers,journals,periodicals,at least 4 times a week
newsprint,rolls,sheets
nickel alloy
nickel bar,rod,etc.wire
nickel concentrates
nickel mattes
nickel oxide sinters etc
nickel plates,sheets,etc p-q turkish export products
pacemakers-for stimulating heart muscles
packing cases,boxes,etc.
Paint etc. Non-aqueous
paint etc. Water thinned
paintings,drawings,pastels
pallet tractors
pallets,other load boards
palm kernel or babassu oil-crude
palm nuts and kernels
palm oil, crude
palm oil,refined,fractions
palmitic acids,stearic acids,salts,esters
panels equipped by computers =<1000v
panels equipped by computers >1000v
panels,etc.fibre-cement
panty hose,tights,knitted
paper and paperboard
paper dishes,plates,etc.
Paper knives,etc.
Paper making machines
paper or plastic dielectric fixed capacitors
paper sanitary articles,hygenic towels,diapers,tampons
paper,paperboard labels
paper,paperboard,corrugated
paper,paperboard,tarred,etc
parachutes(incl.dirigible parachutes)and rotochutes,parts
parings, waste leather
parquet panels,concrete mold,carpentry products
part,offset,other printing machines
part,typeset,founding machines
r-s turkish export products
radar apparatus, etc.
Radiators,parts thereof
radio-active material,isotop compounds,alloys nes
rafts that can be inflated,other floating vechiles
rags,worn out textile articles
rails of iron or steel
rails,tram freight cars
railway sleepers, other
railway track fixtures etc
rape or colza seeds
rare-earth metals,compounds,mixtures
rattans
raw furskins, other than of mink,whole
raw silk (not thrown)
razors, non-electric
reactive dyes,etc.
Rear-view mirror,vehicle
reciprocating pumps,nes
reclaimed unhardened rubber
record players coin disk operated
recorded media,nes
recording equipments for mobile vechiles
recording equipments only combined with clock
recording videos
reel fed offset printing machines
refined copper
refined copper bars,etc.
Refined copper plates 15mm+
refined copper wire
refined lead,unwrought
refractory bricks,etc. T-u-v-w- turkish export products
table linen,cotton
table linen,knitted crochet
table linen,other textiles
table,kitchenware, wood
table,kitchenware,porcelain
table,roof fans etc<125w
tableware articles ,precious metal coated
tableware kitchenware
tableware set,precious metal coated
tailors' dummies and other lay figures
tall oil
tamping machines,road rollers
tamping,compact machines not propelled
tanker trailers,semi-trailers
tankers of all kinds
tanks and other fighting vechiles motorized
tanks,casks,etc.iron,steel
tantalum fixed capacitor
taperd roller bearing etc
tapestries, hand-made
taps,cocks,valves.etc.nes
tarpaulins,awnings etc.
Technically specified natural rubber
telephone sets
telephone switching equipments
telescopic sights,scopes
television cameras
tennis, etc.rackets
tents
terry fabrics except cotton
terry towel etc.unbleached x-y-z turkish export products
x-ray apparatus
x-ray tubes
xylenes, pure
yarn from silk waste,bulk
yarn of jute and other textile fibres
yarn of other vegetable textile fibres
yarn waste (incl.thread)
yarn, =>85% artificial staple fibres,bulk
yarn, =>85% synthetic staple fibres,bulk
yarn, =>85% synthetic staple fibres,retail
yarn,(containing => 85% cotton),not retail
yarn,<85% artificial staple fibres,bulk
yarn,<85% cotton,not retail
yarn,<85% synthetic staple fibres bulk
yarn,<85% synthetic staple fibres retail
yarn,<85%carded wool
yarn,<85%combed wool
yarn,<85%wool,hair,bulk
yarn,artificial filament,retail
yarn,artificial staple fibres,retail
yarn,coarse hair,horse hair
yarn,fine hair,not retail
yarn,synthetic filament,retail
yarn,wool,fine hair,retail(containing =>%85 wool,hair)
yeasts,baking powders
yogurt
zinc alloys
zinc bar,rod,profiles,wire
zinc dust,powders,flakes
zinc ores, concentrates

 

[JStone]

what products does turkey export that have global demand?

a-b turkish export products
abrasive,crude stones,raw,in pieces
abrasive,on fabric base
abrasive,on paper base
abrasive,other base
accordions similar instruments, mouth organs
acetals,hemiacetals,etc.
Acetic acid and its salt
acetone
acid dyes, mordant dyes
acrilonytrile,butadien,styrene,a-b-s copolymers
acrylic, modacrylic fibres=>%85
acrylonitrile
acrylonitrl-butadien rubber
activated carbon
activated natural minerals
acyclic aldehydes(not oxygen functioned)
acyclic amides,derivatives,salts(acyclic carbamates)
acyclic hydrocarbons- nes
acyclic monoamines,salts,derivatives
acyclic polyamines and their derivatives-salts thereof
acyclic,aromatic ethers,halogenic,sulphone,nitrose derivatives
additives for petroleum and bitumene based lubricant oils
addressing,embossing machines
adjustable capacitors
adjustable swivel seats
adrenal cortical hormone
agricultural sprayers c-d-e- turkish export products
cabbage,similar edible brassicas fresh or chilled
cable bending,mixing machines,aircraft supplies
cacao crusts,inner and outer membranes,residues
cadmium not manufactured scraps,wastes
caffeine and its salts
calcium and ammonium nitrate-double salts and mixtures
calcium carbide
calcium carbonate,barium carbonate, and other carbonates
calcium chloride
calcium cyanamide
calcium,strontium,barium,rare metals
calculating cash registers
calendering etc.machines
camphor
camping goods, nes
canary seed, unmilled
candles,tapers,etc.
Cane sugar, raw
canned mushrooms not pickled
canned potatoes,(unpickled,non acetic acidic,frozen)
canned tomatoes,pastes not pickled,nes
capsicum,pimento peppers,dry,crushed,ground
carbide tool tips etc.
Carbides,excluding calcium(silisium carbure)
carbon electrodes,etc.
Carbon nes,carbon black
carbon paper,(width=>36cm rolled plates)
carbon paper,etc.cut
f-g-h-i turkish export products
fabric %85 combed wool,other
fabric <85% carded wool,other
fabric artificial stpl mixed with cotton <%85
fabric containing <85% carded wool,m-made
fabric, artificial staple m-made
fabric, artificial stpl mixed with other
fabric, artificial stpl mixed with wool <% 85
fabric,<85% of flax
fabric,85% of flax
fabric,artificial stpl.fibres=>%85
fabric,bonded synthetic
fabric,containing %85 wool,hair,card
fabric,containing <85% combed wool,m-made
fabric,containing 85% wool,hair,comb
fabric,hi-ten.rayon yarn
fabric,hi-tenc.nylon,etc
fabric,warp without weft
fabric,woven coarse hair
fabric,woven glass fibre
fabric,woven jute,other textiles
fabric,woven metal thread
fabric,woven vegetable textile fibres
fabric,woven,artificial filaments <%85
fabricated <85% other synthetic fibres m2>170g
fabricated <85% synthetic wool,hair
fabricated <85%,polyesther m2>170g
fabricated polyesther m2<=170g;<%85
fabricated synthetic fibres,nes
fabrics of noil silk

j-k-l-m turkish export products
jackets and blazers
jackets,blazers(for women)
jackets,blazers,mens &boys knit
jackets,women girls,knit
jams,jellies,marmalades
jersys,pullovers,etc.knit
juice,other citrus fruit(sweetened or unsweetened)
juice,other fruit or vegetables(sweetened or unsweetened)
jute and other textile bast fibres,raw or retted
jute and wastes
kaolin, kaolinic clays
keyboard instruments sound produced/amplified electrically
keyboard pipe organs, harmoniums,keyboard instruments
kitchen furniture, wood
knee type milling machines numeric controlled
knit garment impregnable fabric
knit gloves,impregnated
knitted crochet fabrics,nes
knitting,stitchbond machines
knives
kraft paper, uncoated
kraft paper,150-225g/m2
kraft paper,coated<150g/m2
kraft paper,over 225g/m2
kraft paper,uncoated <150g/m2
labels,other not embroidered
labels,woven not embroidered
lace, hand-made
lace, mechanically made
lactams n-o turkish export products
nails,etc.copper
nails,tacks,etc.aluminum
nails,tacks,etc.iron,steel
name-plates,etc.base metal
narrow woven pile fabric
natural barium sulphate,carbonate
natural borates and concent
natural calcium phosphate-unground
natural calcium,aluminium calcium phosphates,ground
natural gas, liquefied
natural honey
natural magnesium carbonate
natural pearls
natural polymers,derivatives of natural rubber
natural rubber as smoked sheets
natural rubber latex
natural sponges
natural uranium and its compound,alloys,dispersions
natural,abrasive,worked stones
navigational instruments,direction finding compases
needle roller bearings
needleloom felt etc.
Needles,sewing.knitting,etc
netting of twine, rope
neutral sodium carbonate
newspapers,journals,periodicals,at least 4 times a week
newsprint,rolls,sheets
nickel alloy
nickel bar,rod,etc.wire
nickel concentrates
nickel mattes
nickel oxide sinters etc
nickel plates,sheets,etc p-q turkish export products
pacemakers-for stimulating heart muscles
packing cases,boxes,etc.
Paint etc. Non-aqueous
paint etc. Water thinned
paintings,drawings,pastels
pallet tractors
pallets,other load boards
palm kernel or babassu oil-crude
palm nuts and kernels
palm oil, crude
palm oil,refined,fractions
palmitic acids,stearic acids,salts,esters
panels equipped by computers =<1000v
panels equipped by computers >1000v
panels,etc.fibre-cement
panty hose,tights,knitted
paper and paperboard
paper dishes,plates,etc.
Paper knives,etc.
Paper making machines
paper or plastic dielectric fixed capacitors
paper sanitary articles,hygenic towels,diapers,tampons
paper,paperboard labels
paper,paperboard,corrugated
paper,paperboard,tarred,etc
parachutes(incl.dirigible parachutes)and rotochutes,parts
parings, waste leather
parquet panels,concrete mold,carpentry products
part,offset,other printing machines
part,typeset,founding machines
r-s turkish export products
radar apparatus, etc.
Radiators,parts thereof
radio-active material,isotop compounds,alloys nes
rafts that can be inflated,other floating vechiles
rags,worn out textile articles
rails of iron or steel
rails,tram freight cars
railway sleepers, other
railway track fixtures etc
rape or colza seeds
rare-earth metals,compounds,mixtures
rattans
raw furskins, other than of mink,whole
raw silk (not thrown)
razors, non-electric
reactive dyes,etc.
Rear-view mirror,vehicle
reciprocating pumps,nes
reclaimed unhardened rubber
record players coin disk operated
recorded media,nes
recording equipments for mobile vechiles
recording equipments only combined with clock
recording videos
reel fed offset printing machines
refined copper
refined copper bars,etc.
Refined copper plates 15mm+
refined copper wire
refined lead,unwrought
refractory bricks,etc. T-u-v-w- turkish export products
table linen,cotton
table linen,knitted crochet
table linen,other textiles
table,kitchenware, wood
table,kitchenware,porcelain
table,roof fans etc<125w
tableware articles ,precious metal coated
tableware kitchenware
tableware set,precious metal coated
tailors' dummies and other lay figures
tall oil
tamping machines,road rollers
tamping,compact machines not propelled
tanker trailers,semi-trailers
tankers of all kinds
tanks and other fighting vechiles motorized
tanks,casks,etc.iron,steel
tantalum fixed capacitor
taperd roller bearing etc
tapestries, hand-made
taps,cocks,valves.etc.nes
tarpaulins,awnings etc.
Technically specified natural rubber
telephone sets
telephone switching equipments
telescopic sights,scopes
television cameras
tennis, etc.rackets
tents
terry fabrics except cotton
terry towel etc.unbleached x-y-z turkish export products
x-ray apparatus
x-ray tubes
xylenes, pure
yarn from silk waste,bulk
yarn of jute and other textile fibres
yarn of other vegetable textile fibres
yarn waste (incl.thread)
yarn, =>85% artificial staple fibres,bulk
yarn, =>85% synthetic staple fibres,bulk
yarn, =>85% synthetic staple fibres,retail
yarn,(containing => 85% cotton),not retail
yarn,<85% artificial staple fibres,bulk
yarn,<85% cotton,not retail
yarn,<85% synthetic staple fibres bulk
yarn,<85% synthetic staple fibres retail
yarn,<85%carded wool
yarn,<85%combed wool
yarn,<85%wool,hair,bulk
yarn,artificial filament,retail
yarn,artificial staple fibres,retail
yarn,coarse hair,horse hair
yarn,fine hair,not retail
yarn,synthetic filament,retail
yarn,wool,fine hair,retail(containing =>%85 wool,hair)
yeasts,baking powders
yogurt
zinc alloys
zinc bar,rod,profiles,wire
zinc dust,powders,flakes
zinc ores, concentrates

Massachussets Institute of Technology [MIT]...

As a world leader in science and technology, Israel excels in such areas as genetics, medicine, agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, optics, and engineering. Scientists at Israeli universities such as Bar Ilan University, Ben Gurion University, Haifa University, Hebrew University, The Technion--Israel Institute of Technology, Tel Aviv University and the Weizmann Institute of Science are pioneers in areas such as stem cell-based tissue engineering, nanotechnology, high-resolution electron microscopy, and solar energy. Israeli companies have developed such diverse products as the first anti-virus package, technologies that allow you to leave voice mail on mobile phones, and stents that save lives by keeping the arteries to the heart open.

MISTI MIT-Israel

 

[Unkotare]

And? What about MIT?

 

[CMike]

Don't forget turkey hunting.

 

[Unkotare]

MIT Turkish Student Assn. | Organizing cultural events to introduce Turkish culture to the MIT community.

 

[JStone]

MIT Turkish Student Assn. | Organizing cultural events to introduce Turkish culture to the MIT community.

Israel, with just 5 million Jews, has produced 5 Nobel Prize winners for groundbreaking advances in science, mathematics and economics.

Turkey, with 80 million Muslims, has produced zero Nobel Prize winners.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl76nw92AJc]Jews and Muslims-Nobel Prize List (Latest) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Unkotare]

What is your obsession with the Nobel Prize? Is it your contention that no country on earth is legitimate unless they meet some Nobel quota? Or are you just some strange fan-boy?

 

[docmauser1]

what products does turkey export that have global demand?

a-b turkish export products
abrasive,crude stones,raw,in pieces
abrasive,on fabric base
abrasive,on paper base
abrasive,other base
accordions similar instruments, mouth organs
acetals,hemiacetals,etc. ...

blahblahblah... Still, that doesn't explain why that turkish little hitler is showing the symptoms of the inferiority complex.

 

[JStone]

What is your obsession with the Nobel Prize? Is it your contention that no country on earth is legitimate unless they meet some Nobel quota? Or are you just some strange fan-boy?

Maybe, Turkey ought to be more obsessed with making meaningful contributions to society that would be recognized with the Nobel Prize and less obsessed with being a pariah state.

 

[Unkotare]

The only inferiority complex I'm seeing here is from that jstone douchebag with his strange agenda. It seems bigots on all sides are very committed to their bullshit.

 

[JStone]

The only inferiority complex I'm seeing here is from that jstone douchebag with his strange agenda. It seems bigots on all sides are very committed to their bullshit.

Must your humiliation over the inferiority of Turkey be so transparent?