Tucker Carlson says women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse..."

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

True.

Just more rightwing lies and demogogery.

 

[DandyDonovan]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

You know what's hilarious? In 2003 Elizabeth Warren wrote a book saying much the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Going/dp/0465090907&tag=ff0d01-20

It's a great book and we could only wish Warren still believed half the things she wrote in it.

I doubt 3 people on this site have read it.

 

[Penelope]

Rich people know it best of all, that's why they get married before they have kids. That model works.

What happened to Laura Ingraham, she has 3 kids and never got married. LOL. You just can't make this up.

 

[Indeependent]

Tucker also thinks self driving cars are a bad idea because it will cause truck drivers to lose their jobs. Tucker is unfortunately insane now.

Sadly. At least he is super rich and can be insanely comfortable?

Tucker didn’t quite say that; he said employment sectors should be phased out, not obliterated overnight.

 

[Penelope]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

You know what's hilarious? In 2003 Elizabeth Warren wrote a book saying much the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Going/dp/0465090907&tag=ff0d01-20

It's a great book and we could only wish Warren still believed half the things she wrote in it.

I doubt 3 people on this site have read it.

She does.

 

[Penelope]

Tucker also thinks self driving cars are a bad idea because it will cause truck drivers to lose their jobs. Tucker is unfortunately insane now.

Sadly. At least he is super rich and can be insanely comfortable?

Tucker didn’t quite say that; he said employment sectors should be phased out, not obliterated overnight.

Another man born wit a silver spoon.

 

[DandyDonovan]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

You know what's hilarious? In 2003 Elizabeth Warren wrote a book saying much the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Going/dp/0465090907&tag=ff0d01-20

It's a great book and we could only wish Warren still believed half the things she wrote in it.

I doubt 3 people on this site have read it.

She does.

You couldn't tell that by hearing her speak today. She is far too dishonest to talk that way if she really believes those things still.

Of course that raises the question, did being in DC for 12 years turn her into a dishonest person, or was she already a dishonest person who chose to be in DC?

 

[Indeependent]

Tucker also thinks self driving cars are a bad idea because it will cause truck drivers to lose their jobs. Tucker is unfortunately insane now.

Sadly. At least he is super rich and can be insanely comfortable?

Tucker didn’t quite say that; he said employment sectors should be phased out, not obliterated overnight.

Another man born wit a silver spoon.

I know lots of people born with silver spoons; some are assholes like yourself and some are very decent.

 

[emilynghiem]

MarcATL I find that that cycles of abuse, whether drug/alcohol or the sexual addictions that
even Catholic communities suffered and hid from,
are caused by SPIRITUAL obstructions and addictions.
And these are cured by GENERATIONAL therapy, similar to the
healing methods of recovery that whole tribes have to go through
to overcome genocide in their histories that affect future generations.

This is very deep, and it is NOT CAUSED merely by superficial circumstances.
In fact, I'd say that the social factors and environment are part of the spiritual manifestation.
The spiritual process is the determining factor, and all the other environmental factors
from Nature to Nurture FOLLOW and reflect that spiritual process. This is a healing process, like the
stages of grief leading to full recovery in the future,
but until the cycle is broken, the patterns from the past REPEAT and remanifest in next generations.

The real factors to look for to understand the stages of this spiritual development is
* forgiveness
* unforgiveness
That's how you determine which STAGE of grief or recovery someone is in.
If they are still angry and resentful, projecting blame "outside themselves"
(as even Tucker Carlson is talking about blaming "outside factors" instead of
looking at the internal mechanisms and process that is running independent of what
this looks like on the outside)
or if they are depressed, despondent, and feeling as a "hopeless victim of others"
(which again Carlson mentions as the men who feel demasculated and turn
to substance addiction as an escape).
These are different STAGES of dealing with past patterns that are repeating.

None of these STAGES are the defining problem or solution.
They are each part of a PROCESS to overcome. So that's what we
need to focus on, is understanding the shape and steps of the recovery process.

We can better walk each other through these steps if we don't get stuck on any one
and try to blame or "generalize" based on that one angle.

The point is to FINISH the process and reach full spiritual maturity and understanding.
Not blame people for the past or where we are in our recovery which is a necessary stage
to overcome and grow to the next level of development.

The better we understand why the stages MANIFEST through anger, or depression and numbness,
we can better work through this, and make the process for us,
instead of fighting against the process.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about Emily.

Dear MarcATL and C_Clayton_Jones
In short, the problem of abuse is a Spiritual process
of healing and recovery from the causes passed down generationally.

These cycles of abuse and oppression are behind the
* racial politics of reparations for genocide affecting descendants of Black Slaves and Native tribes
* LGBT politics of gender identity and orientation
and other similar issues of racism, sexism, classism, and general bigotry
where one group still holds blame against another group
and this affects people inside and out
(until we each go through the spiritual process of
recovery, healing and reconciliation).

MarcATL and C_Clayton_Jones
I am saying this process cannot be dictated, regulated or punished by govt.

So that's why we fight so much because people on both sides
project our beliefs and biases onto the political process
which affects Govt and public policy.

We ought to be resolving these issues internally amongst ourselves
as we discuss and debate here as individuals responsible for our own beliefs.

Once we reach agreement on points and principles,
we can better build public policy based on where we AGREE instead of disagree.
So that public policies represent ALL people,
not just one group outbullying another to establish one belief over others.

 

[deanrd]

Why is that hysteria?

Why is it not?

 

[deanrd]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

Had you actually watched the segment like I did, and not just read mediamatters, you would have seen that he stated more than once "It's not me saying this, I'm quoting studies."

Here are studies:

What Happens When Wives Earn More Than Husbands

So in 2013, the University of Chicago Booth School of Business published a paper that looked at 4,000 married couples in America. It found that once a woman started to earn more than her husband, divorce rates increased.

Female Breadwinners: A New Marriage Crisis?

When Wives Earn More Than Their Husbands, Marriages Struggle

Study: Does a woman making more in a relationship cause problems?

When Women Earn More Than Men

Wife the breadwinner? You’re more likely to get divorced unless husbands do this

So in a nutshell, he's exactly right. Care to apologize?

Since you’re obviously smug, what is your solution?

 

[emilynghiem]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

You know what's hilarious? In 2003 Elizabeth Warren wrote a book saying much the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Going/dp/0465090907&tag=ff0d01-20

It's a great book and we could only wish Warren still believed half the things she wrote in it.

I doubt 3 people on this site have read it.

She does.

You couldn't tell that by hearing her speak today. She is far too dishonest to talk that way if she really believes those things still.

Of course that raises the question, did being in DC for 12 years turn her into a dishonest person, or was she already a dishonest person who chose to be in DC?

Dear DandyDonovan cc: Penelope
Neither can some peopie deal with Trump for his
twisted flip flops in the media, saying whatever it takes to troll liberals
and keep himself in the media spotlight.

Whatever he is honestly on target about gets lost
on those who can't follow both when he is serious and straightforward
vs. deliberately throwing the liberal media and opponents for a loop.

I can't stand that stuff myself and wish we didn't keep
rewarding such outlandish bullying behavior. But until
we agree to represent ideas directly and responsibly,
it's all a mish mash of both sides stating what they have to say for image.

Can't stand that.

I would LOVE to see how all these leaders would really respond, act and sound like
if we put them in the context of real cooperative solutions that all parties agree to develop together.
How their tone might change, when they no longer have to defend what they said in the past
and backbite each other for political face.

Why not stick to points of solutions and agreement
and we can all support and reward GOOD things that people say and promote
not negative things blaming one group or factor more than another and arguing which is more correct.

Why not solve ALL the problems that we gripe about and not compete which is more important.
Why not solve them all, then each person or group can focus on whatever aspect they deem to be most critical for their purposes and plans.

That way everyone wins.
And nobody gets painted into a corner to become defensive
and judged whether or not they backtrack.

Why not correct everything, and create jobs for all leaders focusing on
whatever their party represents for those members. Then we can fix everything
instead of arguing what has priority. Let everyone focus and fund what we
deem to be most important to us, and everything would get covered instead
of wasting resources competing to push one agenda more than another.
Cover them all, and let the parties elect which issues to address.
So everyone gets to fund and support what they believe in. Everyone wins
and nobody is better or worse than anyone else for having a different job or
set of priorities. Because all of them need to be covered anyway. Why not?

 

[MarcATL]

Dear MarcATL and C_Clayton_Jones
In short, the problem of abuse is a Spiritual process
of healing and recovery from the causes passed down generationally.

These cycles of abuse and oppression are behind the
* racial politics of reparations for genocide affecting descendants of Black Slaves and Native tribes
* LGBT politics of gender identity and orientation
and other similar issues of racism, sexism, classism, and general bigotry
where one group still holds blame against another group
and this affects people inside and out
(until we each go through the spiritual process of
recovery, healing and reconciliation).

MarcATL and C_Clayton_Jones
I am saying this process cannot be dictated, regulated or punished by govt.

So that's why we fight so much because people on both sides
project our beliefs and biases onto the political process
which affects Govt and public policy.

We ought to be resolving these issues internally amongst ourselves
as we discuss and debate here as individuals responsible for our own beliefs.

Once we reach agreement on points and principles,
we can better build public policy based on where we AGREE instead of disagree.
So that public policies represent ALL people,
not just one group outbullying another to establish one belief over others.

OK, at least I understand, somewhat, what you were saying.

However, what I don't get is how what you stated relates to the OP.

Please advise.

 

[Penelope]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

You know what's hilarious? In 2003 Elizabeth Warren wrote a book saying much the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Going/dp/0465090907&tag=ff0d01-20

It's a great book and we could only wish Warren still believed half the things she wrote in it.

I doubt 3 people on this site have read it.

She does.

You couldn't tell that by hearing her speak today. She is far too dishonest to talk that way if she really believes those things still.

Of course that raises the question, did being in DC for 12 years turn her into a dishonest person, or was she already a dishonest person who chose to be in DC?

She his very against the social divide of wealth inequality in the US. That is what she stands for.

 

[Papageorgio]

I'd love for my wife to make more than me and I could stay home and work on ideas and marketing another business.

As far as Carlson, I don't know much about him, I am sure he isn't as racist as Marc is. Only kidding Marc.

 

[DandyDonovan]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

You know what's hilarious? In 2003 Elizabeth Warren wrote a book saying much the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Going/dp/0465090907&tag=ff0d01-20

It's a great book and we could only wish Warren still believed half the things she wrote in it.

I doubt 3 people on this site have read it.

She does.

You couldn't tell that by hearing her speak today. She is far too dishonest to talk that way if she really believes those things still.

Of course that raises the question, did being in DC for 12 years turn her into a dishonest person, or was she already a dishonest person who chose to be in DC?

She his very against the social divide of wealth inequality in the US. That is what she stands for.

Please list for me 3 bills she has introduced as a Senator meant to address "wealth inequality" whatever the hell that means.

I'll wait.

 

[emilynghiem]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

White males in america really need to grow a collective sack.

Dear H B Lowrie
I think that is what Trump is trying to stand up for.
Quit apologizing for being White, Male and dominant.
Go ahead and speak up and stand for what you want to build yourself.
Do it. Don't apologize or let others victimize or demonize you for it.

I can't help but agree with what Susan Sarandon also noted.
That Trump has inspired more WOMEN to also go public and
even embolden themselves to run for office. I believe his way of
speaking for himself without apology, even sticking his foot in his
own mouth and causing uproars, has opened the door for free speech
and for anyone to announce, promote and pursue their own policy ideas.

Kanye West is going through the ups and downs of trying to speak out.
Kaepernick has become more bold and others have spoken out publicly
either for or against him, Candace Owen, and others all coming out in the media,
even where they face as much opposition and demonization as Trump is.

At least they are speaking out at new levels we hadn't seen or heard before.
The Clinton/Trump election also brought up the first mainstream news exposure
of the divide between the far progressive left that rejects the elitist Democrats.
That suppression has been censored up until Sanders and Stein brought it out.
And now Cortez and others have brought it out to the forefront.

The only thing missing in all this is we are still trying to compete to censor
these different schools of thought as 'the enemy' instead of embracing
them all, and SUPPORTING each leader of each group in funding and
developing their own agenda so everyone can contribute equally.

We are not each other's enemies.

The more the women unite across party lines and "make it okay"
for the MEN to unite instead of dividing and competing to be the bigger alpha male,
maybe we won't rely so much on the bullying model of politics.

We need to let people govern their own groups, and quit trying
to compete to down the message or leadership of other groups.
Let each lead and manage their own

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

You know what's hilarious? In 2003 Elizabeth Warren wrote a book saying much the same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Middle-Class-Parents-Going/dp/0465090907&tag=ff0d01-20

It's a great book and we could only wish Warren still believed half the things she wrote in it.

I doubt 3 people on this site have read it.

She does.

You couldn't tell that by hearing her speak today. She is far too dishonest to talk that way if she really believes those things still.

Of course that raises the question, did being in DC for 12 years turn her into a dishonest person, or was she already a dishonest person who chose to be in DC?

 

[emilynghiem]

Dear MarcATL and C_Clayton_Jones
In short, the problem of abuse is a Spiritual process
of healing and recovery from the causes passed down generationally.

These cycles of abuse and oppression are behind the
* racial politics of reparations for genocide affecting descendants of Black Slaves and Native tribes
* LGBT politics of gender identity and orientation
and other similar issues of racism, sexism, classism, and general bigotry
where one group still holds blame against another group
and this affects people inside and out
(until we each go through the spiritual process of
recovery, healing and reconciliation).

MarcATL and C_Clayton_Jones
I am saying this process cannot be dictated, regulated or punished by govt.

So that's why we fight so much because people on both sides
project our beliefs and biases onto the political process
which affects Govt and public policy.

We ought to be resolving these issues internally amongst ourselves
as we discuss and debate here as individuals responsible for our own beliefs.

Once we reach agreement on points and principles,
we can better build public policy based on where we AGREE instead of disagree.
So that public policies represent ALL people,
not just one group outbullying another to establish one belief over others.

OK, at least I understand, somewhat, what you were saying.

However, what I don't get is how what you stated relates to the OP.

Please advise.

OK MarcATL
In short, the cause and cure of the "drug abuse"
is Spiritual and involves someone's background and history including unconscious
things carried from past generations.

This isn't "CAUSED" by the EXTERNAL factors that TC lists.

These factors may be CORRELATED but not the CAUSE.

Instead of arguing what causes what, in which case which are all different,
I'm pointing to the common cures across the board.

My purpose in pointing to the common solution is
1. it stops the need for arguing and nitpicking over what cause is more to blame than others.
(which is what the OP is about contesting, the invalidity of the Causal argument or assertion)
2. It solves several problems at once with the same approach or solution
(which digresses from the OP and applies to any number of situations or problems
that can be solved by focusing on spiritual healing of root causes of multiple issues, whether related or not)

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

I do think there is a legitimate point to be said that society still has expectations that a man is supposed to have a good career and be successful in order to be a suitable mate, otherwise he is looked down upon as a loser. Parents still hope their daughter will marry a doctor or a lawyer, a man with a successful career, not a garbage man or a warehouse worker. Women, on the other hand, can still lack education and work a low income job and not have the same stigma attached to them.

That said, Carlson's premise is absurd. The idea that men are abusing drugs and alcohol because women might make more than them is ridiculous. If you're unhappy with your stature in life do something to change it.

 

[DandyDonovan]

The fool even said that when men make less money than women, the women don't want to marry them, but the rich are "doing it right" by getting married first.

Get a load of his hysteria here...

Tucker Carlson: Women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse"

You can't make this stuff up folks.

I do think there is a legitimate point to be said that society still has expectations that a man is supposed to have a good career and be successful in order to be a suitable mate, otherwise he is looked down upon as a loser. Parents still hope their daughter will marry a doctor or a lawyer, a man with a successful career, not a garbage man or a warehouse worker. Women, on the other hand, can still lack education and work a low income job and not have the same stigma attached to them.

That said, Carlson's premise is absurd. The idea that men are abusing drugs and alcohol because women might make more than them is ridiculous. If you're unhappy with your stature in life do something to change it.

Tucker did NOT say that men are using drugs and alcohol because women are making more money than them. That is a complete misinterpretation of what point he was making.