Trumps old Chief of Staff calls out Fox News

[Jitss617]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

Everything about Fox news is creepy. the way some of the men dress and comb their hair makes you feel as if you are watching tapes from the 80's.

Sounds personal

 

[wamose]

I think Trump gets on the wrong side of bureaucratic, government types because he expects a good days work from them. After a while, all government workers become dogs and are incapable of operating at a level Trump expects. In other words, most government workers are overpaid slugs. If they don't like it, get the hell out and get a real job.

 

[22lcidw]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Hes mad cause Fox News has called him out so he's pouting lol.

Fox News is FAR more informative than any other cable outlet.
They have REAL liberals on every day to offer the counterpoint. All of the rest only offer conservatives with a grudge or fake conservatives and they don't actually offer a counterpoint but rather agree with the looney leftist hosts.

His statement about Fox News only cements his status as a butthurt crybaby.

 

[mudwhistle]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Fox is part of the same international conglomerate as CNN and MSNBC.

 

[Dragonlady]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

 

[iceberg]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Great. His opinion and nothing more.

It's one thing to talk FREE MEDIA. Who can really disagree. But the words in this case are there to hide behind. The media in general is far from free. It's become a cult for socialism.

Fox doesn't do that so those socialistic in nature hates them.

Nothing more.

 

[Dragonlady]

I think Trump gets on the wrong side of bureaucratic, government types because he expects a good days work from them. After a while, all government workers become dogs and are incapable of operating at a level Trump expects. In other words, most government workers are overpaid slugs. If they don't like it, get the hell out and get a real job.

Trump is an overpaid slug. Fat, lazy, stupid. He spends his morning on "Executive Time" - watching TV and tweeting and threatening vengeance on his "enemies". Shows up for work at 11:00, and he's done by 6:00. And he only works four days a week.

And still you fools believe he's doing right by you.

 

[BluesLegend]

I think Trump gets on the wrong side of bureaucratic, government types because he expects a good days work from them. After a while, all government workers become dogs and are incapable of operating at a level Trump expects. In other words, most government workers are overpaid slugs. If they don't like it, get the hell out and get a real job.

Trump is an overpaid slug. Fat, lazy, stupid. He spends his morning on "Executive Time" - watching TV and tweeting and threatening vengeance on his "enemies". Shows up for work at 11:00, and he's done by 6:00. And he only works four days a week.

And still you fools believe he's doing right by you.

Look who's talking your clown in Canada is a joke.

 

[Jitss617]

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

 

[debbiedowner]

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

If a white fucked up kid on meth can't find a job in today's market then that's on him.

 

[Crepitus]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

 

[Jitss617]

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

If a white fucked up kid on meth can't find a job in today's market then that's on him.

There are many jobs,, but the ones we used work have been flooded by 3rd worlders that stack one bed room apartments for years to save money to move back home. Lower wages.. Are you suggesting Americans take these low wages and stack 1 bed room apartments with other Americans until they die? lol do you know what a civilized country is?

 

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John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

And jitler there is nothing but a tight bundle of fear, the perfect end result of RW media manipulation.

 

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John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

 

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John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

And jitler there is nothing but a tight bundle of fear, the perfect end result of RW media manipulation.

I think you are projecting you are fear my second amendment rights and free speech

 

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When I moved to the US and saw FOX news the first time...at first i thought it was satire and then I was like no there is no way anone in their right mind would listen to their garbage. Fast forward and I knew why fox news is popular, those that watch it have low IQ and are easily manipulated.

Your post is stupid and ignorant.

But I notice you are unable to counter or debate it.


Again.

 

[Crepitus]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

You state lies without posting links to back them up. FXN is "fair and balanced", the MSM, and I watch them all, rarely have Republicans in their debates to present "alternate facts". Kelly has an axe to grind, factor that into your analysis.
Harvard study proves Fox is the most balanced network. | Elite Trader
Harvard Study reveals media bias

Trump’s coverage during his first 100 days set a new standard for negativity. Findings include:

• President Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president.
• Every news outlet in the study was negative more often than positive.
• Fox was the only news outlet that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall

Are you kidding? Even the name is a lie. Faux doesn't do news, they do talk shows and entertainment.

 

[Crepitus]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

You state lies without posting links to back them up. FXN is "fair and balanced", the MSM, and I watch them all, rarely have Republicans in their debates to present "alternate facts". Kelly has an axe to grind, factor that into your analysis.
Harvard study proves Fox is the most balanced network. | Elite Trader
Harvard Study reveals media bias

Trump’s coverage during his first 100 days set a new standard for negativity. Findings include:

• President Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president.
• Every news outlet in the study was negative more often than positive.
• Fox was the only news outlet that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall

That's because he rarely is ever does anything positive.

It does show faux's bias pretty clearly though.

Thanks.

 

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I think Trump gets on the wrong side of bureaucratic, government types because he expects a good days work from them. After a while, all government workers become dogs and are incapable of operating at a level Trump expects. In other words, most government workers are overpaid slugs. If they don't like it, get the hell out and get a real job.

Wait, you mean his cabinet members don't get "executive time" TV breaks like he does?