“Trump’s Going To Get Re-elected, Isn’t He?”

[MarcATL]

Should Government do what is best for the country, or what is best for it's country men? What is best for the country is to not waste resources on losers. Let the sick and infirmed die and get out of the way of the strong. Healthcare for those who can't afford it makes our country weaker, best to reserve resources for those who can pay it back.

Yep, that's some straight up Republican rhetoric there.

Every man for himself.

Leave your fellow American behind.

 

[MarcATL]

Talk to those who are in those systems, Marc...they will tell you that there are long waits for certain medical procedures. You have a heart problem that isn't critical...chances are you're going to waiting for some time before that problem is addressed. It's what happens when you put millions more people onto a new system. Panels decide what is critical and what is not. You as a patient no longer have control over your own health. That's what people refer to as "death panels"...a term which I think is overblown! Will some people die because they can't get an issue resolved immediately? Probably. What I think people will find happening much more often than that however is being stuck waiting for a long time to get medical treatment. Those of you calling for Medicare for all need to understand that's the way it's going to be.

Talking to those in other systems has already been done.

Let's take Canada. Heck, let's take both Canada and England.

Just about every citizen in both countries are quite pleased w/their healthcare systems.

Nothing is perfect, but they are generally pleased, and they damn sure would NOT replace what they have w/our systems.

You can poll that question yourself.

 

[Dekster]

I don't think he's going to win again; he's not running against Clinton anymore. Let's be real -- Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Shultz won the election for Trump. Together they flipped SO many Bernie supporters to Trump that I had decent faith Trump could win 2016, but I have little faith this time around. I don't think he can do it.

If the democrats persist in making "Trump is evil" their campaign slogan, he very well may win again. Hell, they just had that stupid vote condemning him which really just confirms what most of non-DNC America dislikes about them. He has an uncanny ability at getting under people's skin and when they react, he wins on that alone. He keeps them off-message, off their game, emotionally wound up, and looking irrational. Mayor Pete seems the only one who can stick to issues and we all know he won't be the nominee. Bernie and Biden are just screechy old men pissed at the world and Warren is just the female version of Bernie.

 

[Silver Blooded]

I don't think he's going to win again; he's not running against Clinton anymore. Let's be real -- Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Shultz won the election for Trump. Together they flipped SO many Bernie supporters to Trump that I had decent faith Trump could win 2016, but I have little faith this time around. I don't think he can do it.

Who do you think will beat Trump? I'm not totally convinced he will be re-elected but that is mainly due to the shifting Demographics I see in my own state of Arizona. I assume that could be happening in other states. I don't think Texas is quite going to flip blue but by 2024 it very well could.

I know my state is officially a blue state now. 2/2 Dem senators and 3/4 Dem Reps. 1 fucking county flipping the whole state.

Honestly, I don't think it really matters. I imagine any of those clowns advocating for socialism could beat him. You saw how much dick sucking was going on during the debates. There's no way the candidates actually believed any of the shit they said, they were just saying it for votes because they know that liberals soak that shit up. Clinton's ties to big business and corruption were so apparent. Trump might have the best chance against Biden, considering he's another establishment piece of shit. Liberals will give Biden lip service, but I can't see Biden drawing crowds to vote for his stiff ass. But, man, you gotta remember how close some of those states were. I remember watching Florida flipping blue to red to blue to red. Ready to shit myself when they actually called it for Trump. It was nothing like 2012 where, you knew it was over the second California was called. I was at the edge of my seat for hours. Once they called PA, that's when I settled down some. It was close as fuck, and none of these candidates except for Biden really have that business scum-bag aura about them that Clinton did.

Believe me, man. I would be MORE than happy to be proved wrong. But, I don't have the faith I did in 2016. Especially because the economy is much better now than it was 4 years ago. Republicans rushed to the polls in desperation to fix the economy from the Democrats. It's much better now... Will they still want to go to the polls for Trump? Dunno man. Don't have that gut feeling I did 4 years ago.

 

[Silver Blooded]

I don't think he's going to win again; he's not running against Clinton anymore. Let's be real -- Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Shultz won the election for Trump. Together they flipped SO many Bernie supporters to Trump that I had decent faith Trump could win 2016, but I have little faith this time around. I don't think he can do it.

If the democrats persist in making "Trump is evil" their campaign slogan, he very well may win again. Hell, they just had that stupid vote condemning him which really just confirms what most of non-DNC America dislikes about them. He has an uncanny ability at getting under people's skin and when they react, he wins on that alone. He keeps them off-message, off their game, emotionally wound up, and looking irrational. Mayor Pete seems the only one who can stick to issues and we all know he won't be the nominee. Bernie and Biden are just screechy old men pissed at the world and Warren is just the female version of Bernie.

The thing is that there were many more factors to Trumps victory than just Republicans going to the polls to piss off liberals by putting Trump in office. The economy was shit and Trump promised jobs. The economy's up. Will those people still go vote for Trump? Clinton had a miasma of criminality and shit surrounding her which caused a lot of liberals to refuse to vote for her, or even vote in favor of Trump instead. That factor may be missing this year as well.

Conservatives may be just as passionate about Trump as they were 4 years ago, but it doesn't mean Trump's going to win.

 

[MarathonMike]

I don't think he's going to win again; he's not running against Clinton anymore. Let's be real -- Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Shultz won the election for Trump. Together they flipped SO many Bernie supporters to Trump that I had decent faith Trump could win 2016, but I have little faith this time around. I don't think he can do it.

Who do you think will beat Trump? I'm not totally convinced he will be re-elected but that is mainly due to the shifting Demographics I see in my own state of Arizona. I assume that could be happening in other states. I don't think Texas is quite going to flip blue but by 2024 it very well could.

I know my state is officially a blue state now. 2/2 Dem senators and 3/4 Dem Reps. 1 fucking county flipping the whole state.

Honestly, I don't think it really matters. I imagine any of those clowns advocating for socialism could beat him. You saw how much dick sucking was going on during the debates. There's no way the candidates actually believed any of the shit they said, they were just saying it for votes because they know that liberals soak that shit up. Clinton's ties to big business and corruption were so apparent. Trump might have the best chance against Biden, considering he's another establishment piece of shit. Liberals will give Biden lip service, but I can't see Biden drawing crowds to vote for his stiff ass. But, man, you gotta remember how close some of those states were. I remember watching Florida flipping blue to red to blue to red. Ready to shit myself when they actually called it for Trump. It was nothing like 2012 where, you knew it was over the second California was called. I was at the edge of my seat for hours. Once they called PA, that's when I settled down some. It was close as fuck, and none of these candidates except for Biden really have that business scum-bag aura about them that Clinton did.

Believe me, man. I would be MORE than happy to be proved wrong. But, I don't have the faith I did in 2016. Especially because the economy is much better now than it was 4 years ago. Republicans rushed to the polls in desperation to fix the economy from the Democrats. It's much better now... Will they still want to go to the polls for Trump? Dunno man. Don't have that gut feeling I did 4 years ago.

I hear all that for sure. I've always been of the opinion that if you underestimate your opponent, you've already lost. LoL and yes I share much of what you said about election night 2016. I had to go to work the next day but I was not going to bed until I saw PA called. Oh sweet nectar the looks on the CNN faces! But with this election I feel like Kamala has already been tagged as "The One". I believe the Obamas, and Oprah and all the other power Black people in the Democratic Party are waiting for Old Joe to melt away in the polls. And when it looks like a done deal they will throw their support behind Kamala and then it's game on. If the economy falters then who knows? But I'm with you one what you say.

 

[okfine]

I'm poor,,,its my [problem not yours,,,,

Democrats don't believe in leaving their fellow Americans behind.

Only Republicans do that.

Should Government do what is best for the country, or what is best for it's country men? What is best for the country is to not waste resources on losers. Let the sick and infirmed die and get out of the way of the strong. Healthcare for those who can't afford it makes our country weaker, best to reserve resources for those who can pay it back.

A friend did everything right. Years working around the world setting up telecommunications. Retired. Nice home. Until his wife got cancer. Took everything he worked for to try and save her. Every penny. Lost her. Now lives with his daughter in a shitty little apartment. Could happen to you, asshole.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Unless
They are Jews. Democrats hate Jews.

That's why American Jews vote at least 70% Democrat.

Only in your meth addled brain.

In 2016. That was before Omar and Tlaib came out with their open Jew hate. Let’s see what happens in 2020z

 

[MarcATL]

I'm poor,,,its my [problem not yours,,,,

Democrats don't believe in leaving their fellow Americans behind.

Only Republicans do that.

Should Government do what is best for the country, or what is best for it's country men? What is best for the country is to not waste resources on losers. Let the sick and infirmed die and get out of the way of the strong. Healthcare for those who can't afford it makes our country weaker, best to reserve resources for those who can pay it back.

A friend did everything right. Years working around the world setting up telecommunications. Retired. Nice home. Until his wife got cancer. Took everything he worked for to try and save her. Every penny. Lost her. Now lives with his daughter in a shitty little apartment. Could happen to you, asshole.

This is what self-proclaimed conservatives don't seem to understand, until it happens to them of course, then they suddenly see the light and usually switch to liberal.

By nature, people on the right are selfish.

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[MarcATL]

Unless
They are Jews. Democrats hate Jews.

That's why American Jews vote at least 70% Democrat.

Only in your meth addled brain.

In 2016. That was before Omar and Tlaib came out with their open Jew hate. Let’s see what happens in 2020z

Right.

You went from all democrats hate, to just singling out two specific people.

You're just making crap up.

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[Dekster]

I don't think he's going to win again; he's not running against Clinton anymore. Let's be real -- Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Shultz won the election for Trump. Together they flipped SO many Bernie supporters to Trump that I had decent faith Trump could win 2016, but I have little faith this time around. I don't think he can do it.

If the democrats persist in making "Trump is evil" their campaign slogan, he very well may win again. Hell, they just had that stupid vote condemning him which really just confirms what most of non-DNC America dislikes about them. He has an uncanny ability at getting under people's skin and when they react, he wins on that alone. He keeps them off-message, off their game, emotionally wound up, and looking irrational. Mayor Pete seems the only one who can stick to issues and we all know he won't be the nominee. Bernie and Biden are just screechy old men pissed at the world and Warren is just the female version of Bernie.

The thing is that there were many more factors to Trumps victory than just Republicans going to the polls to piss off liberals by putting Trump in office. The economy was shit and Trump promised jobs. The economy's up. Will those people still go vote for Trump? Clinton had a miasma of criminality and shit surrounding her which caused a lot of liberals to refuse to vote for her, or even vote in favor of Trump instead. That factor may be missing this year as well.

Conservatives may be just as passionate about Trump as they were 4 years ago, but it doesn't mean Trump's going to win.

And democrats will have "The squad" to keep the GOP base riled up. I did not say he will win though. I said he may win.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Unless
They are Jews. Democrats hate Jews.

That's why American Jews vote at least 70% Democrat.

Only in your meth addled brain.

In 2016. That was before Omar and Tlaib came out with their open Jew hate. Let’s see what happens in 2020z

Right.

You went from all democrats hate, to just singling out two specific people.

You're just making crap up.

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Do you see any Dems denouncing them or their statements? Not one Democrat attended the embassy opening in Jerusalem. I won’t tell you how to be black so don’t tell me how to be a Jew.

 

[Oldstyle]

Talk to those who are in those systems, Marc...they will tell you that there are long waits for certain medical procedures. You have a heart problem that isn't critical...chances are you're going to waiting for some time before that problem is addressed. It's what happens when you put millions more people onto a new system. Panels decide what is critical and what is not. You as a patient no longer have control over your own health. That's what people refer to as "death panels"...a term which I think is overblown! Will some people die because they can't get an issue resolved immediately? Probably. What I think people will find happening much more often than that however is being stuck waiting for a long time to get medical treatment. Those of you calling for Medicare for all need to understand that's the way it's going to be.

Talking to those in other systems has already been done.

Let's take Canada. Heck, let's take both Canada and England.

Just about every citizen in both countries are quite pleased w/their healthcare systems.

Nothing is perfect, but they are generally pleased, and they damn sure would NOT replace what they have w/our systems.

You can poll that question yourself.

One of the golf pros I work with is from Canada. He had a heart issue which made him so weak he could barely walk a few hundred feet without having to stop and rest. He waited almost nine months before having the procedure because there was a que of people in front of him. That's the reality of having that many people on a healthcare system. All I'm saying is that if someone tells you there won't be long waits for procedures to be done...they're not being honest with you.

 

[The Original Tree]

Who cares about their insurance company?

They're the real life death panels Republicans were shrieking so much about when Obama was fixing the mess.

They care about getting access to their doctor and receiving actual healthcare.

Omar after sucking her brothers cock said,

I "gurgle" "Cough" don't think, "Gurgle", "licks lips" anyone will be heart broken when we take their "choke" "gag" private healthcare insurance, "gag" from them.

"Slobber" "Drool" "Swallow"

Ocasio-Cortez: Nobody is ‘heartbroken’ at the prospect of losing private health insurance

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm poor,,,its my [problem not yours,,,,

Democrats don't believe in leaving their fellow Americans behind.

Only Republicans do that.

Should Government do what is best for the country, or what is best for it's country men? What is best for the country is to not waste resources on losers. Let the sick and infirmed die and get out of the way of the strong. Healthcare for those who can't afford it makes our country weaker, best to reserve resources for those who can pay it back.

which government are you talking about ,,fed or state???

as per the constitution the feds dont have the authority,,,

 

[Diver Diva]

2020 will be a landslide for Trump.

And if you think the left is violent now, you haven't seen anything yet.

 

[Edgetho]

Omar introduces Israel boycott resolution and likens Jewish state to Nazi Germany, Soviet Union

With non-haters like this, how can dimocrap scum NOT get elected??

 

[MarcATL]

Do you see any Dems denouncing them or their statements? Not one Democrat attended the embassy opening in Jerusalem. I won’t tell you how to be black so don’t tell me how to be a Jew.

I don't see any current Repugs in office denouncing Trump's racist remarks. That's what I don't see.

As for the rest...nobody's telling you how to be a Jew. I simply pointed out the fact that Jews, in this country, vote OVERWHELMINGLY for Democrats. And this has been the case, in like, forever.

 

[MarcATL]

One of the golf pros I work with is from Canada. He had a heart issue which made him so weak he could barely walk a few hundred feet without having to stop and rest. He waited almost nine months before having the procedure because there was a que of people in front of him. That's the reality of having that many people on a healthcare system. All I'm saying is that if someone tells you there won't be long waits for procedures to be done...they're not being honest with you.

Someone always have some anecdotal story..."I know a guy."

If someone is telling you that there's going to be overly long lines to get much needed treatment...they're not being honest with you.

BTW, how long do you have to wait now to see a heart specialist?

 

[Oldstyle]

One of the golf pros I work with is from Canada. He had a heart issue which made him so weak he could barely walk a few hundred feet without having to stop and rest. He waited almost nine months before having the procedure because there was a que of people in front of him. That's the reality of having that many people on a healthcare system. All I'm saying is that if someone tells you there won't be long waits for procedures to be done...they're not being honest with you.

Someone always have some anecdotal story..."I know a guy."

If someone is telling you that there's going to be overly long lines to get much needed treatment...they're not being honest with you.

BTW, how long do you have to wait now to see a heart specialist?

You claim that everyone from Canada and Great Britain love their healthcare system and I simply pointed out that there are some serious negatives involved in those systems...one of which is healthcare rationing. It's not something Americans are used to. It's something many of them are NOT going to like if it's ever implemented.