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But it is rather obvious that Trump DOES believe in the concept of race. That technically makes him a racist since he is an adherent to the concept. Like JROC. What do those initials mean any way. If his posts offer any clue the acronym stands for Just Relying On Crap,Because you insist Trump is a racist and your solution is to vote for a narcissist who has demonstrated repeatedly that she cares not for the social advancement of Blacks.Great answer, I am proud of you! Neither do I. So why do you call me a racist when I don't believe in the concept of race?No.I do't believe in race…Do you?
I lived in Brooklyn during the 1978(?) blackout when the Blacks destroyed Flatbush.
Look, I get frustration.
For something like Ferguson to happen in today's world shows there a REAL problem festering in both the Black community and in our Economic Policy.
But you just see Honky being evil.
Clinton ain't gonna make it better.
I know the good "honkies" from the bad "honkies and that justice department report showed clearly who the BAD honkies inFerguson were." For all you know I could be one of the "good honkies, myself." heh heh heh! Now answer my question. Do you believe in race?
By default you fall back on sound bites.
What a load of crap. Ben Carson is living proof that what you say pure fallacy! Michelle Obama is another fine product of pubic schooling.We don't want the poor to get the kind of education that the rich get.
That's exactly it.
If union public schools taught kids about investments, compound interest, staying out of debt, they would be creating little conservatives. That's the last thing Democrats want in our public schools. Sure, if you want to learn about those things, you can go to college if you can afford it. But until that time, keep letting kids think that the only way to success is to make a hit rap song or be very good at basketball. Because if you're not born the right color, not born into the right family, not born in the right neighborhood, you stand no chance at success in life.
Politicians and celebrities are well heeled enough to spend their own money to send their kids to private schools and they do so for security purposes. Their kids are more vulnerable in regards to being targets for kidnappers seeking ransoms. It isn't because the private school is better than the top public schools in academic pursuits but pvt schools seem to be more secure.
They do? How?
I went to a private school and their security was no more or less than any public school.
What did the blacks have to lose when they tried to rent from Comrade Trump and his dad years ago. They had a signal to keep them from renting an apartment. The Feds figured it out and slammed them. But Comrade Trump lies about it now.
No, that is false.
The feds were trying to setup people for discrimination lawsuits. Trump's father had a policy not to rent to people on welfare. Knowing that, the state sent out black agents posing as welfare people looking to rent apartments which they were refused.
Trump fought the charges and even tried to countersue the government for 100 million dollars.
No, I just read his unauthorized biographers true version of that and the countersuit failed and Trump and his father had had to make changes to their rental policies. They had been disciminating by denying apartments to blacks.
Trump insists nothing happened, but he and dad fought harder than any landlord in NY to keep blacks out. But "What the hell do you have to lose?"
He and Dad?..how long ago was that? who'd want to rent to people on welfare? Did NBC have a racist, on the premiere show, on their network for 14 yrs?Donald J Trump didn't became a "racist" until he was running for president ..funny how that works
No, I just read his unauthorized biographers true version of that and the countersuit failed and Trump and his father had had to make changes to their rental policies. They had been disciminating by denying apartments to blacks.
Trump insists nothing happened, but he and dad fought harder than any landlord in NY to keep blacks out. But "What the hell do you have to lose?"
Correct, they didn't get the lawsuit, but the point is that they didn't get charged either.
The settlement was that they had to advertise their apartments in some Urban league paper or something like that. The Trump's stated they were pleased with the out-of-court settlement because the government didn't pursue forcing Trump to rent to welfare people. They were able to keep that policy. Because it was out of court, there are no records if any fines, payments or penalties were assessed to the Trumps or what that cost might have been if any. If there were, I think they would have continued the fight because they never discriminated because of race--only discriminated against those on public assistance white or black.
What a load of crap. Ben Carson is living proof that what you say pure fallacy! Michelle Obama is another fine product of pubic schooling.We don't want the poor to get the kind of education that the rich get.
That's exactly it.
If union public schools taught kids about investments, compound interest, staying out of debt, they would be creating little conservatives. That's the last thing Democrats want in our public schools. Sure, if you want to learn about those things, you can go to college if you can afford it. But until that time, keep letting kids think that the only way to success is to make a hit rap song or be very good at basketball. Because if you're not born the right color, not born into the right family, not born in the right neighborhood, you stand no chance at success in life.
Yawn...But it is rather obvious that Trump DOES believe in the concept of race. That technically makes him a racist since he is an adherent to the concept. Like JROC. What do those initials mean any way. If his posts offer any clue the acronym stands for Just Relying On Crap,Because you insist Trump is a racist and your solution is to vote for a narcissist who has demonstrated repeatedly that she cares not for the social advancement of Blacks.Great answer, I am proud of you! Neither do I. So why do you call me a racist when I don't believe in the concept of race?No.I lived in Brooklyn during the 1978(?) blackout when the Blacks destroyed Flatbush.
Look, I get frustration.
For something like Ferguson to happen in today's world shows there a REAL problem festering in both the Black community and in our Economic Policy.
But you just see Honky being evil.
Clinton ain't gonna make it better.
I know the good "honkies" from the bad "honkies and that justice department report showed clearly who the BAD honkies inFerguson were." For all you know I could be one of the "good honkies, myself." heh heh heh! Now answer my question. Do you believe in race?
By default you fall back on sound bites.
We are talking about Ferguson. Protesting against police oppression and malfeasance is not a crime. The real crime occurred when the nearly all white government of Ferguson made laws and policies that impacted the Black community negatively. Americans of ANY race would rebel against such tyranny. In fact the blueprint for BLM was drawn during the Revolutionary War. The Ferguson protests were rather peaceful by comparison,,doncha think?Where did you hear that? And after you answer that, comment on the more representative city government and the infusion of democracy in Ferguson. Obama did what Trump is incapable of for the Blacks of Ferguson. If Trump had been president during the Ferguson unrest, there would have been far more bloodshed and the town would be under occupation by a militarized police force and possibly the national guard. And you RW jackasses would be sitting back grinning with glee!
The only way to prevent crime is with a strong enough deterrent. There was no deterrent in Ferguson or Baltimore where the police were instructed to give the rioters some space to carry out their destruction.
What a load of crap. Ben Carson is living proof that what you say pure fallacy! Michelle Obama is another fine product of pubic schooling.We don't want the poor to get the kind of education that the rich get.
That's exactly it.
If union public schools taught kids about investments, compound interest, staying out of debt, they would be creating little conservatives. That's the last thing Democrats want in our public schools. Sure, if you want to learn about those things, you can go to college if you can afford it. But until that time, keep letting kids think that the only way to success is to make a hit rap song or be very good at basketball. Because if you're not born the right color, not born into the right family, not born in the right neighborhood, you stand no chance at success in life.
Yawn...But it is rather obvious that Trump DOES believe in the concept of race. That technically makes him a racist since he is an adherent to the concept. Like JROC. What do those initials mean any way. If his posts offer any clue the acronym stands for Just Relying On Crap,Because you insist Trump is a racist and your solution is to vote for a narcissist who has demonstrated repeatedly that she cares not for the social advancement of Blacks.Great answer, I am proud of you! Neither do I. So why do you call me a racist when I don't believe in the concept of race?No.I know the good "honkies" from the bad "honkies and that justice department report showed clearly who the BAD honkies inFerguson were." For all you know I could be one of the "good honkies, myself." heh heh heh! Now answer my question. Do you believe in race?
By default you fall back on sound bites.
All you care about is handouts.
What a load of crap. Ben Carson is living proof that what you say pure fallacy! Michelle Obama is another fine product of pubic schooling.We don't want the poor to get the kind of education that the rich get.
That's exactly it.
If union public schools taught kids about investments, compound interest, staying out of debt, they would be creating little conservatives. That's the last thing Democrats want in our public schools. Sure, if you want to learn about those things, you can go to college if you can afford it. But until that time, keep letting kids think that the only way to success is to make a hit rap song or be very good at basketball. Because if you're not born the right color, not born into the right family, not born in the right neighborhood, you stand no chance at success in life.
Inner city public schools have deteriorated in the last 40 years ..talking points boy
All you do is scream, "Trump is a racist!".Yawn...But it is rather obvious that Trump DOES believe in the concept of race. That technically makes him a racist since he is an adherent to the concept. Like JROC. What do those initials mean any way. If his posts offer any clue the acronym stands for Just Relying On Crap,Because you insist Trump is a racist and your solution is to vote for a narcissist who has demonstrated repeatedly that she cares not for the social advancement of Blacks.Great answer, I am proud of you! Neither do I. So why do you call me a racist when I don't believe in the concept of race?
By default you fall back on sound bites.
All you care about is handouts.
All you do is complain about things you know nothing about!..includig me! heh heh heh…your obsession is duly noted...
No, I just read his unauthorized biographers true version of that and the countersuit failed and Trump and his father had had to make changes to their rental policies. They had been disciminating by denying apartments to blacks.
Trump insists nothing happened, but he and dad fought harder than any landlord in NY to keep blacks out. But "What the hell do you have to lose?"
Correct, they didn't get the lawsuit, but the point is that they didn't get charged either.
The settlement was that they had to advertise their apartments in some Urban league paper or something like that. The Trump's stated they were pleased with the out-of-court settlement because the government didn't pursue forcing Trump to rent to welfare people. They were able to keep that policy. Because it was out of court, there are no records if any fines, payments or penalties were assessed to the Trumps or what that cost might have been if any. If there were, I think they would have continued the fight because they never discriminated because of race--only discriminated against those on public assistance white or black.
Wink, Wink, Nod, Nod
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html?_r=0
What a load of crap. Ben Carson is living proof that what you say pure fallacy! Michelle Obama is another fine product of pubic schooling.We don't want the poor to get the kind of education that the rich get.
That's exactly it.
If union public schools taught kids about investments, compound interest, staying out of debt, they would be creating little conservatives. That's the last thing Democrats want in our public schools. Sure, if you want to learn about those things, you can go to college if you can afford it. But until that time, keep letting kids think that the only way to success is to make a hit rap song or be very good at basketball. Because if you're not born the right color, not born into the right family, not born in the right neighborhood, you stand no chance at success in life.
Inner city public schools have deteriorated in the last 40 years ..talking points boy
Some have, some have improved. The term deterioration means somebody knew how to do it right at one time but they stopped doing it. Success left a track record, let's find it and revitalize those schools that have "deteriorated."
Politicians and celebrities are well heeled enough to spend their own money to send their kids to private schools and they do so for security purposes. Their kids are more vulnerable in regards to being targets for kidnappers seeking ransoms. It isn't because the private school is better than the top public schools in academic pursuits but pvt schools seem to be more secure.1.Your study was sponsored by republican businessmen. But i wonder why that study focused on a few Blacks who allegedly support vouchers and not the comparative studies that show voucher schools have no appreciable difference on educational outcomes.Well actually my post was to point out that blacks do prefer school vouchers over no choice at all. And I'm sure I can find all kinds of evidence and pieces on the success of school vouchers. But instead of getting into a Google pissing contest, what your posts say is that better schools have no impact on black children. So I would assume then that if we poured more money into public schools, it wouldn't make much of a difference; something we Republicans have been saying for decades.
Also, it seems to me these studies of yours are very vague. It's generalizations and not specific given the fact it's the parent that chooses the schools their children attend. If a parent chooses a school not known for success, then it's the parent that made the bad decision, not the voucher program itself.
That is awfully suspicious to me.
2. You must have missed the part in my link that showed some voucher schools did worst than public schools in educating students.
Studies consistently show that vouchers not only fail to boost student academic performance, but many students in voucher schools actually do worse than their voucher-less peers.
That sentence is a powerful blow to the school voucher proponents. It also defangs your bite at financial support for public schools.
Yet I'm sure that's why so many democrat politicians put their kids through which type of school? Damn, I though your Democrat politicians would be in full support of your argument towards "quality" public education? Kind of sucks knowing those you put into office to represent you, don't feel the education they provide you is good enough for their OWN kids.. Ouch! So much for your argument there buddy.
So you believe these politicians would rather simply put up with their kids going through a "less than adequate" education system, that doesn't offer the very best opportunity for their kids to be successful? You are actually telling me that kids in public education are better equipped to succeed in achieving a position in an Ivy League School than any one of these Democrat politicians who put their children through a private school? Yes or no?
I am not sure all politicians send their kids to private schools and you have provided no evidence they all do. Nevertheless, I will call into evidence the public schooling of Michelle Obama in Chicago of all places. She graduated from the Whitney M. Young magnet school and after that there was no stopping her. There are many public schools of that caliber. We should strive to make them ALL that way. Some private schools may be as good as the Whitney Young school but too many don't meet the same standards. You seem to think ALL private schools meet the same standards. I have posted studies that show they do not...
I am not going to re debate the worn out dialogue about Ferguson. The Justice Department's investigation and subsequent report on th4e Ferguson PD supports my premise and debunks yours.Yeah, Ferguson was just somebody accidently dropping a few hundred matches whilst trying to light a cigarette.Blacks have always had 2X the number of unemployed as Whites since integration. And race relations are not worse under Obama, more racists just came out of the closet when he became president!You live in an alternative universe..More blacks are out of the workforce or cant find jobs. Race relations are worst than ever under this scum Obama
Ferguson was a reactive approach to racism. The catalyst that set that reaction off was the shooting of Michael Brown, even if he was a thug!
Ferguson was the reaction of racist thugs assuming the worst of the cops and unwilling to accept any explanation of what happened other than the cops were acting out of racism. And they were being egged on by their leaders. This kind of behavior fuels racism and keeps it alive and well and it is wrong, wrong, wrong. Unconscionable. What Trump offers in the place of this kind of stupidity is quality education, law and order, and return the violent ghettos back into peaceful and prosperous places to live and work.
So who should black people listen to? The ones who fueled the flames at Ferguson that only makes things worse for everybody? Or somebody who at least is trying to offer a way out?
Those "thuggish assumptions" turned out to be quite valid.
And Ferguson has been transformed.
Now the city government, and the streets themselves, look much different.
The city has a new police chief, a new city manager and a new municipal judge – all blacks who replaced white leaders. All Ferguson officers wear body cameras. The city council has new members, too, several of whom are black. And the business district that was at the centre of last year’s sometimes-violent protests is slowly rebuilding.
Reagan didn't do it. Neither of the "SHRUBS" did it. and Trump wouldn't have done it. It took an Obama to make a peaceful transition like that.
Politicians and celebrities are well heeled enough to spend their own money to send their kids to private schools and they do so for security purposes. Their kids are more vulnerable in regards to being targets for kidnappers seeking ransoms. It isn't because the private school is better than the top public schools in academic pursuits but pvt schools seem to be more secure.1.Your study was sponsored by republican businessmen. But i wonder why that study focused on a few Blacks who allegedly support vouchers and not the comparative studies that show voucher schools have no appreciable difference on educational outcomes.
That is awfully suspicious to me.
2. You must have missed the part in my link that showed some voucher schools did worst than public schools in educating students.
Studies consistently show that vouchers not only fail to boost student academic performance, but many students in voucher schools actually do worse than their voucher-less peers.
That sentence is a powerful blow to the school voucher proponents. It also defangs your bite at financial support for public schools.
Yet I'm sure that's why so many democrat politicians put their kids through which type of school? Damn, I though your Democrat politicians would be in full support of your argument towards "quality" public education? Kind of sucks knowing those you put into office to represent you, don't feel the education they provide you is good enough for their OWN kids.. Ouch! So much for your argument there buddy.
So you believe these politicians would rather simply put up with their kids going through a "less than adequate" education system, that doesn't offer the very best opportunity for their kids to be successful? You are actually telling me that kids in public education are better equipped to succeed in achieving a position in an Ivy League School than any one of these Democrat politicians who put their children through a private school? Yes or no?
I am not sure all politicians send their kids to private schools and you have provided no evidence they all do. Nevertheless, I will call into evidence the public schooling of Michelle Obama in Chicago of all places. She graduated from the Whitney M. Young magnet school and after that there was no stopping her. There are many public schools of that caliber. We should strive to make them ALL that way. Some private schools may be as good as the Whitney Young school but too many don't meet the same standards. You seem to think ALL private schools meet the same standards. I have posted studies that show they do not...
That's a lot of dogging and back tracking over a simple question. You, after all, stated that "politicians don't send their kids to private school because they are better than the top public schools but because they are more secure." So when I -asked you directly if you feel those specific politicians put up with having children going to "less than adequate" education, and if those in public education stand a better chance at an Ivy League School than those Democrats who choose private school, and you are obviously afraid to answer the question.
As for the discussion of public school vs private, I won't utilize a commentary blog or a newspaper opinion on the subject, I'm going to cut through all that and go straight to the NCES. Who are the NCES? The NCES is the National Center for Education Statistics, a Federal entity who's primary role is to collect, analyze, and report data relating to education in the United States. Why waste time with mere opinions and newspaper articles, when you can go straight to the source that fulfills a Congressional mandate to collect, analyze, and report full and complete statistics on the condition of education in the United States; conducts as well as publish reports with specialized analyses of the meaning and significance of such statistics?
The NCES conducted an assessment of over 6,900 public schools with over 530 private schools which agreed to participate for the 4th grade level, and over 5,600 public schools with over 550 private schools among 8th graders.
The findings with regard to READING:
Among those in 4th grade, an average private school mean reading score was 14.7 points higher than the average public school mean reading score
In the 8th grade level the average private school mean reading score was 18.1 points higher than the average public school mean reading score,
The report as it pertains to MATH SKILLS
The average private school mean mathematics score in the 4th grade was 7.8 points higher than the average public school
When it came to the 8th grade level, the average private school mean mathematics score was 12.3 points higher than the average public school mean mathematics score.
GOVERNMENT SOURCE:
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/studies/2006461.pdf
The skill level attained in Public School
When you look more closely at the READING comprehension level attained in public school in 2015, the percentage of 4th-grade students performing at or above the Basic achievement level (69 percent) was not measurably different from the percentage in 2013, but it was higher than the percentage in 1992 which was (62 percent)
Among 8th-grade students, the percentage performing at or above Basic level in 2015 (76 percent) was lower than in 2013 (78 percent).
GOVERNMENT SOURCE: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/pdf/coe_cnb.pdf
So you can try and sell me the notion that the quality of education among public schools is better than what you'll find in private, however the government assessment of the facts don't line up to that view.
Politicians and celebrities are well heeled enough to spend their own money to send their kids to private schools and they do so for security purposes. Their kids are more vulnerable in regards to being targets for kidnappers seeking ransoms. It isn't because the private school is better than the top public schools in academic pursuits but pvt schools seem to be more secure.Yet I'm sure that's why so many democrat politicians put their kids through which type of school? Damn, I though your Democrat politicians would be in full support of your argument towards "quality" public education? Kind of sucks knowing those you put into office to represent you, don't feel the education they provide you is good enough for their OWN kids.. Ouch! So much for your argument there buddy.
So you believe these politicians would rather simply put up with their kids going through a "less than adequate" education system, that doesn't offer the very best opportunity for their kids to be successful? You are actually telling me that kids in public education are better equipped to succeed in achieving a position in an Ivy League School than any one of these Democrat politicians who put their children through a private school? Yes or no?
I am not sure all politicians send their kids to private schools and you have provided no evidence they all do. Nevertheless, I will call into evidence the public schooling of Michelle Obama in Chicago of all places. She graduated from the Whitney M. Young magnet school and after that there was no stopping her. There are many public schools of that caliber. We should strive to make them ALL that way. Some private schools may be as good as the Whitney Young school but too many don't meet the same standards. You seem to think ALL private schools meet the same standards. I have posted studies that show they do not...
That's a lot of dogging and back tracking over a simple question. You, after all, stated that "politicians don't send their kids to private school because they are better than the top public schools but because they are more secure." So when I -asked you directly if you feel those specific politicians put up with having children going to "less than adequate" education, and if those in public education stand a better chance at an Ivy League School than those Democrats who choose private school, and you are obviously afraid to answer the question.
As for the discussion of public school vs private, I won't utilize a commentary blog or a newspaper opinion on the subject, I'm going to cut through all that and go straight to the NCES. Who are the NCES? The NCES is the National Center for Education Statistics, a Federal entity who's primary role is to collect, analyze, and report data relating to education in the United States. Why waste time with mere opinions and newspaper articles, when you can go straight to the source that fulfills a Congressional mandate to collect, analyze, and report full and complete statistics on the condition of education in the United States; conducts as well as publish reports with specialized analyses of the meaning and significance of such statistics?
The NCES conducted an assessment of over 6,900 public schools with over 530 private schools which agreed to participate for the 4th grade level, and over 5,600 public schools with over 550 private schools among 8th graders.
The findings with regard to READING:
Among those in 4th grade, an average private school mean reading score was 14.7 points higher than the average public school mean reading score
In the 8th grade level the average private school mean reading score was 18.1 points higher than the average public school mean reading score,
The report as it pertains to MATH SKILLS
The average private school mean mathematics score in the 4th grade was 7.8 points higher than the average public school
When it came to the 8th grade level, the average private school mean mathematics score was 12.3 points higher than the average public school mean mathematics score.
GOVERNMENT SOURCE:
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/pdf/studies/2006461.pdf
The skill level attained in Public School
When you look more closely at the READING comprehension level attained in public school in 2015, the percentage of 4th-grade students performing at or above the Basic achievement level (69 percent) was not measurably different from the percentage in 2013, but it was higher than the percentage in 1992 which was (62 percent)
Among 8th-grade students, the percentage performing at or above Basic level in 2015 (76 percent) was lower than in 2013 (78 percent).
GOVERNMENT SOURCE: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/pdf/coe_cnb.pdf
So you can try and sell me the notion that the quality of education among public schools is better than what you'll find in private, however the government assessment of the facts don't line up to that view.
That was a good source…thanks. But you should have read the whole report. Nearly every point I made is validated in the report. My position was and remains intact. Here are some of the excerpts I copied that I thought supported my premises:
After adjusting for selected student characteristics, the difference in means was near zero and not significant. "
"In the first set of analyses, all private schools were again compared to all public schools. The average private school mean mathematics score was 7.8 points higher than the average public school mean mathematics score, corresponding to an effect size of .29. After adjusting for selected student characteristics, the difference in means was -4.5 and significantly different from zero. (Note that a negative difference implies that the aver- age school mean was higher for public schools.)"
"
The average differ- ence in adjusted school means between Conservative Christian schools and all public schools was -7.6 points (i.e., a higher average school mean for public schools) and was significantly different from zero. "
"Cautions in Interpretation
When interpreting the results from any of these analy- ses, it should be borne in mind that private schools constitute a heterogeneous category and may differ from one another as much as they differ from public schools. Public schools also constitute a heterogeneous category. Consequently, an overall comparison of the two types of schools is of modest utility. The more focused comparisons conducted as part of this study may be of greater value. However, interpretations of the results should take into account the variability due to the relatively small sizes of the samples drawn from each category of private school, as well as the possible bias introduced by the differential participation rates across private school categories. "
All private schools are not the same in any ore than all public schools are.
