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That is what reopened the floodgates and made poaching jack way up again, though. It seemed reasonable to make use of the ivory from legally killed elephants. But reintroducing ivory to the legal market immediately caused poachers to start killing elephants again and sending their ivory, too.and the IVORY , Dead Elephants provide ivory and i have no problem with that Ivory being sold .
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought backThe problem is that elephants live in intergenerational family units. They are long lived, slow to msture and highly intelligent. Older ones teach younger ones and knowledge gets passed down through generations.The sad reality is the only places that have healthy elephant populations are those that allow hunts. Eco hunters don't pay even one tenth what a real hunter will pay for an elephant. In the long run it helps far more elephants than it harms.
We have no business killing such creatures for sport. If there were no market for dead elephant parts there would be no value in poaching. Now we are opening the market again to poorly regulated indistry.
All of that is true, but as a person who has lived and worked in Africa for years at a time, I can tell you that in areas where hunting is allowed the elephant population is doing OK. Not great mind you, but OK. Where hunting is outlawed they are nearing extinction. It's as simple as that.
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought backThe problem is that elephants live in intergenerational family units. They are long lived, slow to msture and highly intelligent. Older ones teach younger ones and knowledge gets passed down through generations.The sad reality is the only places that have healthy elephant populations are those that allow hunts. Eco hunters don't pay even one tenth what a real hunter will pay for an elephant. In the long run it helps far more elephants than it harms.
We have no business killing such creatures for sport. If there were no market for dead elephant parts there would be no value in poaching. Now we are opening the market again to poorly regulated indistry.
All of that is true, but as a person who has lived and worked in Africa for years at a time, I can tell you that in areas where hunting is allowed the elephant population is doing OK. Not great mind you, but OK. Where hunting is outlawed they are nearing extinction. It's as simple as that.
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought backThe problem is that elephants live in intergenerational family units. They are long lived, slow to msture and highly intelligent. Older ones teach younger ones and knowledge gets passed down through generations.
We have no business killing such creatures for sport. If there were no market for dead elephant parts there would be no value in poaching. Now we are opening the market again to poorly regulated indistry.
All of that is true, but as a person who has lived and worked in Africa for years at a time, I can tell you that in areas where hunting is allowed the elephant population is doing OK. Not great mind you, but OK. Where hunting is outlawed they are nearing extinction. It's as simple as that.
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought backThe problem is that elephants live in intergenerational family units. They are long lived, slow to msture and highly intelligent. Older ones teach younger ones and knowledge gets passed down through generations.
We have no business killing such creatures for sport. If there were no market for dead elephant parts there would be no value in poaching. Now we are opening the market again to poorly regulated indistry.
All of that is true, but as a person who has lived and worked in Africa for years at a time, I can tell you that in areas where hunting is allowed the elephant population is doing OK. Not great mind you, but OK. Where hunting is outlawed they are nearing extinction. It's as simple as that.
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
‘I agree. I am not against hunting per se...but killing for the “joy” of killing something you will not eat and is not threatening you is abhorrent.Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought backAll of that is true, but as a person who has lived and worked in Africa for years at a time, I can tell you that in areas where hunting is allowed the elephant population is doing OK. Not great mind you, but OK. Where hunting is outlawed they are nearing extinction. It's as simple as that.
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of he assholes son disgusted me.
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought backAll of that is true, but as a person who has lived and worked in Africa for years at a time, I can tell you that in areas where hunting is allowed the elephant population is doing OK. Not great mind you, but OK. Where hunting is outlawed they are nearing extinction. It's as simple as that.
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Because it is barbaric. You are killing a highly evolved intelligent animal. For money.
Should we go back to sticking human heads in poles?
Emotion is what this type of hunting is. It is a misplaced sense of bravado that sticks dismembered animal parts on the wall. Do you when emotion isn’t involved or is tempered by rationality? People who hunt and eat it.
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought backAll of that is true, but as a person who has lived and worked in Africa for years at a time, I can tell you that in areas where hunting is allowed the elephant population is doing OK. Not great mind you, but OK. Where hunting is outlawed they are nearing extinction. It's as simple as that.
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of the assholes son disgusted me.
‘I agree. I am not against hunting per se...but killing for the “joy” of killing something you will not eat and is not threatening you is abhorrent.Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought back
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of he assholes son disgusted me.
Do the Trumps eat elephants and lions?Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought back
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of the assholes son disgusted me.
Hunting is a natural and healthy instinct. Being ashamed of it, is pathological.
Do you eat meat?
Do the Trumps eat elephants and lions?Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of the assholes son disgusted me.
Hunting is a natural and healthy instinct. Being ashamed of it, is pathological.
Do you eat meat?
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought back
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of the assholes son disgusted me.
Hunting is a natural and healthy instinct. Being ashamed of it, is pathological.
Do you eat meat?
Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of the assholes son disgusted me.
Hunting is a natural and healthy instinct. Being ashamed of it, is pathological.
Do you eat meat?
I do eat meat. If I had to kill for food I would. BUT I would take no pleasure in doing so.
Of course you missed my point, whether by your biases or your stupidity is open to question, for some - I know you are both biased and dumb.
Many of the animals are endangered.Trump to allow imports of African elephant trophies
Trump to allow imports of African elephant trophies
Of course he is. Clearly, we can see why.
Maybe because he is a grown up.
These hunters pay ridiculous amounts of money to big game hunt. It keeps populations under control and actually funds the conservation activities.
While I disagree will killing these beautiful animals for sport, THEY DO MORE FOR CONSERVATION THEN USELESS LIBERALS LIKE YOURSELF
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So you pay for someone else to kill meat for you?Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Killing any living creature for pleasure is, IMO, pathological. That picture of the assholes son disgusted me.
Hunting is a natural and healthy instinct. Being ashamed of it, is pathological.
Do you eat meat?
I do eat meat. If I had to kill for food I would. BUT I would take no pleasure in doing so.
Of course you missed my point, whether by your biases or your stupidity is open to question, for some - I know you are both biased and dumb.
trump kills elephant on Twitter
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Trump has decided killing elephants is ok. Elephants are kind, intelligent and devoted to their families. Lifting the ban only puts them in further danger. Trophy hunting of any kind should not be allowed and does not aid in conservation. Leave the elephants alone. #NotUs pic.twitter.com/ACu4s1j…
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Maybe if elephants thanked trump he's take it easy on them?trump kills elephant on Twitter
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(@oliviamunn)
Trump has decided killing elephants is ok. Elephants are kind, intelligent and devoted to their families. Lifting the ban only puts them in further danger. Trophy hunting of any kind should not be allowed and does not aid in conservation. Leave the elephants alone. #NotUs pic.twitter.com/ACu4s1j…
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Hunting is a means of obtaining food. No more. No less.Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.I understand their conservation is a complicated matter....but perhaps we could stop short of allowing their severed heads to be brought back
it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Because it is barbaric. You are killing a highly evolved intelligent animal. For money.
Should we go back to sticking human heads in poles?
Emotion is what this type of hunting is. It is a misplaced sense of bravado that sticks dismembered animal parts on the wall. Do you when emotion isn’t involved or is tempered by rationality? People who hunt and eat it.
HOw is it misplaced? Hunting is a skill, not to mention getting the money to afford such hobbies.
Hunting is the most noble of sports... It’s the most legit tooHunting is a means of obtaining food. No more. No less.Tough shit then. As it is they are still spending it even though they can’t bring dismembered bodies home.it's part of the reason these guys(and occasional girl) spend $100k-$300k on a valid permit.
Emotion is expected in this situation, but if you really want to save these herds, what is the big deal about some guy having his trophy?
Is he going to put a gun to your head and force you to admire it in his den?
Because it is barbaric. You are killing a highly evolved intelligent animal. For money.
Should we go back to sticking human heads in poles?
Emotion is what this type of hunting is. It is a misplaced sense of bravado that sticks dismembered animal parts on the wall. Do you when emotion isn’t involved or is tempered by rationality? People who hunt and eat it.
HOw is it misplaced? Hunting is a skill, not to mention getting the money to afford such hobbies.
