Trump Tells Court To Strike Down Entire Affordable Care Act

[jasonnfree]

I believe health care should be left to the private sector, which has been doing it much more efficiently than the government before the ACA mess

Before the ACA they were efficient in terms of delivering PROFITS to themselves

Not so much affordable health care

But hey...if Trump is successful there will absolutely end up being a Medicare Buy In.

So maybe this is a good thing...except that...

The TRANSITION will suck for a lot of people though. Folks will die

Correct. You'd think these so called 'right to life' republicans would give a damn but they don't. Now I can understand how a wealthy guy like hannity or trump doesn't give a damn about the average American, but I can't understand how these average income (at best), right winger posters are still cheer leading for the non existent republican solution for affordable health care while jeering at what democrats like bernie sanders are pushing. If they or their child comes down with a rare disease where the medication is unaffordable, they will die. Only in America, most foreigners tell me as they shake their heads about our health care situation here.

 

[deanrd]

Better solutions at lower cost!

You mean "die" and "die quickly". Republicans already tried to sell that to America. How did it work out?

 

[MAGAman]

I understand ACA perfectly, do you? I doubt you and the other's don't know just how many other things are intertwined with the ACA now, will hurt some of Trump's projects. No link for you dumb fuck and you should stay out of something you know nothing about.

You missed the number of people that lost their plan by almost 30,000,000, Einstein.

If that's a subject you understand you must be a lot of fun with subjects you don't know.

 

[deanrd]

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I understand ACA perfectly, do you? I doubt you and the other's don't know just how many other things are intertwined with the ACA now, will hurt some of Trump's projects. No link for you dumb fuck and you should stay out of something you know nothing about.

You missed the number of people that lost their plan by almost 30,000,000, Einstein.

If that's a subject you understand you must be a lot of fun with subjects you don't know.

Bull shit


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[debbiedowner]

I understand ACA perfectly, do you? I doubt you and the other's don't know just how many other things are intertwined with the ACA now, will hurt some of Trump's projects. No link for you dumb fuck and you should stay out of something you know nothing about.

You missed the number of people that lost their plan by almost 30,000,000, Einstein.

If that's a subject you understand you must be a lot of fun with subjects you don't know.

Goddamn you're an idiot. Just stick to being a dumb ass redneck.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump and the administration repeatedly promised -- particularly leading up to the midterm election -- to protect people with less-than-perfect medical histories.

Just relax libtards. There was bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions before Obamacare and there is still bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions. OP come over here

 

[Lesh]

Trump and the administration repeatedly promised -- particularly leading up to the midterm election -- to protect people with less-than-perfect medical histories.

Just relax libtards. There was bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions before Obamacare and there is still bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions. OP come over here

Wrong. Cynical lying bastard GOP Congress critters CLAIMED they would support that and are now stabbing their constituents in the back

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump and the administration repeatedly promised -- particularly leading up to the midterm election -- to protect people with less-than-perfect medical histories.

Just relax libtards. There was bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions before Obamacare and there is still bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions. OP come over here

Wrong. Cynical lying bastard GOP Congress critters CLAIMED they would support that and are now stabbing their constituents in the back

The GOP put this in writing you tard. If you want to participate in a political discussion try to arrive informed.

 

[Lesh]

Trump and the administration repeatedly promised -- particularly leading up to the midterm election -- to protect people with less-than-perfect medical histories.

Just relax libtards. There was bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions before Obamacare and there is still bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions. OP come over here

Wrong. Cynical lying bastard GOP Congress critters CLAIMED they would support that and are now stabbing their constituents in the back

The GOP put this in writing you tard. If you want to participate in a political discussion try to arrive informed.

Sure moron. Put it in writing and then VOTE on it. Till then it’s cynical lying bullshit

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump and the administration repeatedly promised -- particularly leading up to the midterm election -- to protect people with less-than-perfect medical histories.

Just relax libtards. There was bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions before Obamacare and there is still bipartisan support for covering pre-existing conditions. OP come over here

Wrong. Cynical lying bastard GOP Congress critters CLAIMED they would support that and are now stabbing their constituents in the back

The GOP put this in writing you tard. If you want to participate in a political discussion try to arrive informed.

Sure moron. Put it in writing and then VOTE on it. Till then it’s cynical lying bullshit

Its part of the congressional record. Sorry to ruin your pity party.

 

[22lcidw]

Robert Reich want to exterminate old people.

 

[MAGAman]

Goddamn you're an idiot. Just stick to being a dumb ass redneck.

Reality triggers you...

Man/Woman up

 

[MAGAman]

Goddamn you're an idiot. Just stick to being a dumb ass redneck.

Since I taught you about the 29,000,00+ people that lost their healthcare plans due .to Obamacare, you might consider thanking me instead of being an obnoxious, ungrateful jerk.

But that's just me. Perhaps you were raised with different morals.

 

[MAGAman]

Goddamn you're an idiot. Just stick to being a dumb ass redneck.

If you dumbskittles really didn't know what Obamacare did to American healthcare plans, you need to wise up.

Otherwise, you're a liar..

 

[Issa]

So after refugees, the poor illegals, now the party of morals is praying to strip the sick off of their life line.

 

[debbiedowner]

How the Affordable Care Act Helps Seniors - NCPSSM

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), signed into law on March 23, 2010, aims to provide greater access to health care coverage, improve the quality of services delivered and reduce the rate of increase in health spending. The ACA provides new ways to help hospitals, doctors and other health care providers coordinate care for beneficiaries so that health care quality is improved and unnecessary spending reduced. Improvements made in the ACA to Medicare preventive services and prescription drug coverage have lowered the out-of-pocket costs of millions of seniors. Below are some of the ways that the Affordable Care Act is helping seniors.



Lower-Cost Prescription Drugs

• Since passage of the ACA, more than 10.7 million people with Medicare saved over $20.8 billion on prescription drugs. The ACA reduces prescription drug prices for seniors and closes the coverage gap, known as the “donut hole.” Medicare beneficiaries who fall into the coverage gap, known as the “donut hole,” automatically receive a discount on prescription drugs. Each year, beneficiaries pay a reduced cost for brand name and generic drugs in the coverage gap. The law closes the coverage gap in 2020.

• In 2016, Medicare beneficiaries in the donut hole receive a 55 percent discount on brand-name drugs and a 42 percent discount on generic drugs. Seniors who reach the donut hole will save, on average, about $ 1,945 per beneficiary. Nearly four million people with Medicare who were in the donut hole in 2010 received a one-time, tax-free $250 rebate from Medicare to help pay for prescription drug costs.

Preventive Services and Annual Wellness Visit

• Medicare beneficiaries are eligible to receive many preventive services with no out-of-pocket costs. These include flu shots, tobacco cessation counseling, as well as no-cost screenings for cancer, diabetes and other chronic diseases. Seniors can also get an annual wellness visit so they can talk to their doctor about any health concerns. Because of the ACA, over 39 million seniors have received at least one of these preventive services with no out-of-pocket costs.

Lower Medicare Part B Premiums



ACA reforms are making Medicare more efficient and reducing overall health care costs, which has helped contain the cost of Part B premiums for most people. In 2016, the Medicare Part B premium is $104.90 and the Part B annual deductible is $166. The premium is $121.80 (or higher depending on your income) for individuals who enroll in Part B for the first time in 2016, don’t get Social Security benefits or are directly billed for Part B premiums.



Improvements for Medicare Advantage Plan Members



Private Medicare Advantage (MA) plans are getting stronger and less expensive. From 2010-2015, the average MA premium has declined by approximately 6 percent and enrollment has increased by 40 percent.

• Since 2014, the ACA provides additional protections for MA plan members by limiting the amount these plans spend on administrative costs, insurance company profits, and items other than health care, to 15 percent of their Medicare payments.
• MA plans also can no longer charge enrollees more than traditional Medicare for chemotherapy administration, skilled nursing home care and other specialized services.

Medicare Fraud, Waste and Abuse

• The ACA includes new resources and tools to protect taxpayer dollars by preventing fraud in Medicare and Medicaid by building on the efforts of the Department of Health and Human Services and the Justice Department. Over the past three years, the government recovered over $10.7 billion from individuals and companies seeking fraudulent payments. There are also tougher penalties for people who steal from Medicare and more law enforcement to identify criminals abusing the law and beneficiaries.

Medicare Delivery System and Payment Reforms

• The ACA establishes the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation to test new ways of delivering care that are intended to improve quality while reducing the rate of growth in Medicare spending. Examples include programs to reduce unnecessary hospital readmissions by coordinating care and services for patients when they leave the hospital. Other provisions provide for the development of Accountable Care Organizations, bundled payments and medical homes all of which are intended to provider higher-quality, coordinated care for beneficiaries.

Helping Americans of All Ages



The ACA helps seniors and Americans of all ages. The law stops insurance companies from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions, prohibits insurance companies from taking away coverage when someone needs services, eliminates lifetime limits on insurance coverage, allows young adults to stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, and provides assistance to employers to help them continue providing retiree health insurance benefits. In 2014, the following ACA benefits went into effect:.

• Requiring guaranteed issue and renewability of health insurance regardless of health status and allowing rating variation based only on age (limited to a 3 to 1 ratio), geographic area, family composition and tobacco use. This applies to the individual, small group market and the health insurance exchanges.
• Prohibiting annual limits on the dollar value of coverage.
• Creating state-based health insurance marketplaces where individuals and small businesses with up to 100 employees can purchase qualified coverage.
• Providing refundable, advance tax credits and cost sharing subsidies to eligible individuals to help pay for health insurance.
• Requiring U.S. citizens and legal residents to have qualifying health coverage or pay a phased-in tax penalty. If affordable coverage is not available, an individual will be exempt from this requirement.
• Expanding Medicaid (optional for states) to individuals not eligible for Medicare under age 65 with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level ($15,654 for an individual in 2016) and providing enhanced federal matching payments for new eligibles.
• Permitting states the option to create a Basic Health Plan for uninsured individuals with incomes between 133-200 percent of federal poverty level ($15,521-$23,540 for an individual in 2016) who would otherwise be eligible to receive premium subsidies in the exchange.

 

[debbiedowner]

I understand ACA perfectly, do you? I doubt you and the other's don't know just how many other things are intertwined with the ACA now, will hurt some of Trump's projects. No link for you dumb fuck and you should stay out of something you know nothing about.

You missed the number of people that lost their plan by almost 30,000,000, Einstein.

If that's a subject you understand you must be a lot of fun with subjects you don't know.

You're still a fucking idiot your 30 mil is just a little over what really happened, try around 5 million.

It’s true that insurance companies discontinued health plans that had covered millions of people who had bought them directly rather than through an employer. That’s because those plans didn’t meet the coverage standards of the new law.

But those policyholders didn’t lose the ability to have insurance. In most cases, insurers offered them an alternative plan, though there were some instances of companies exiting the individual market altogether.

Whether offered an alternative or not, individuals could shop for insurance on the federal and state marketplaces, or through a broker or insurance carrier directly. Many were likely eligible for federal subsidies to help pay for insurance, resulting in better coverage and lower rates for some. But the specific plan they had was indeed discontinued. (More than half of those with canceled policies were likely to be eligible for federal assistance, according to Urban Institute research, and about 80 percent of all those buying plans on the exchanges are expected to qualify for subsidies, according to the Congressional Budget Office.)

Oh you are not schooling me in a damn thing boy I've been in the health insurance business almost 30 years.

 

[MAGAman]

You're still a fucking idiot your 30 mil is just a little over what really happened, try around 5 million.

It’s true that insurance companies discontinued health plans that had covered millions of people who had bought them directly rather than through an employer. That’s because those plans didn’t meet the coverage standards of the new law.

But those policyholders didn’t lose the ability to have insurance. In most cases, insurers offered them an alternative plan, though there were some instances of companies exiting the individual market altogether.

Whether offered an alternative or not, individuals could shop for insurance on the federal and state marketplaces, or through a broker or insurance carrier directly. Many were likely eligible for federal subsidies to help pay for insurance, resulting in better coverage and lower rates for some. But the specific plan they had was indeed discontinued. (More than half of those with canceled policies were likely to be eligible for federal assistance, according to Urban Institute research, and about 80 percent of all those buying plans on the exchanges are expected to qualify for subsidies, according to the Congressional Budget Office.)

Oh you are not schooling me in a damn thing boy I've been in the health insurance business almost 30 years.

I get that you are embarrassed.

Falsely claiming '''ONLY 5 MILLION" Americans got screwed is a pitiful defense.

Actually, 29+Million Americans got screwed.

If Obamacare didn't suck, then why are so many Democrats calling to replace it with Soviet Single-Payer?

 

[Dana7360]

The republican and trump solution is to make it legal for an insurance company to refuse to sell a policy to someone who has a preexisting condition. Or make it so expensive no one could afford it.

That will cause a lot of people to die.

Why do you believe that an insurance company has the right to kick someone off their policy just because they got sick or refuse to sell a policy to someone who was sick in their life?

Why do you believe it's ok to deny proper medical help to people who need it?

Liberty isn't perfect.

It's just more perfect than giving your freedoms away.

You keep proving that I'm right and you're in Moscow. By the way, how's the weather today in Moscow comrade?

If you actually were an American you would know the real meaning of the word Liberty.

It means being able to live in your native nation without being persecuted by the government or kicked out by the government.

Freedom has nothing to do with health care.

Stop posting "catch" phrases and words that have absolutely nothing to do with this subject of this thread. This is serious. People are going to die because of this.