Trump decertifies Iran deal

[Soggy in NOLA]

The one thing the Idiot-in Chief has done is send a message to all governments on this Earth that the word the United States commits to in any agreement is subject to the whim of any future President after a number of years have passed. That fucking NARCISSISTIC FOOL has done grave damage to the reputation of this Nation and is unconscionable!

Sure, whatthefuckever.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I think if we have the right to own nukes others should too. What gives us the right to go around telling others what to have and what not to have? And leave them vulnerable for us to invade them at anytime?

Birth Privileges Have Led to Decade After Decadent Decade, Generation After Degenerate Generation

What gives backward races the right to claim they are equal? If advanced people don't get rid of the powerful and malignant Whiteys Hating Whitey preaching suicidal ethics to us, we deserve to be conquered by savages.

 

[9thIDdoc]

The one thing the Idiot-in Chief has done is send a message to all governments on this Earth that the word the United States commits to in any agreement is subject to the whim of any future President after a number of years have passed. That fucking NARCISSISTIC FOOL has done grave damage to the reputation of this Nation and is unconscionable!

Old news. Abandoning S. Vietnam did that decades ago. Which Idiot-in-Chief are you talking about?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

This took guts. I applaud President Trump for doing it. The iran deal guaranteed us that Iran would get Nukes after ten years, at best. Trump was right that it was the worst deal ever negotiated.

How does Trump stop them from restarting their nuke program.....Right Now?

They know Trump is not fucking around. They won't dare start while he's in office.

Sanctions Are for Sissies

They backed down when Reagan, through back channels, threatened to nuke them unless they released the hostages.

By the way, the Marines were sissies who surrendered to a mob of teenagers. I fought in Vietnam while the Embassy-Duty Marines lived like princes. In our time, those who have it soft are the least deserving.

 

[irosie91]

there are details of the "agreement" that seem to be important -------actually involving the legality of the
"agreement" itself. There are people implying that it was
never entirely valid because it was not ratified by the congress. Iran, itself, as an entity COMPLETELY adherent
to "agreements" has a record that easily disqualifies it----ie
a history of LOTS OF TREACHERY

whatever... as someone else pointed out, most of our agreements aren't ratified by Congress.

So how about answering the question- If we are seen as the people sandbagging the agreement, what impetus is there on our allies to enforce the parts we want enforced?

Never negotiate out of fear, always force your enemies to negotiate out of fear. Russia and China won't risk anything for those two basketcases. So NoKo and Iranistan will be all alone when the lights go out.

That's actually kind of retarded. The Russians have a vested interest in Iran. Iran is propping up their ally, Assad, and giving them warm water ports in the region, and Russia reached a 2.5 Billion deal with them recently.

Similarly, China has a lot invested in North Korea.

SO there will come a time when people realize that the Orange Shitgibbon is full of bluster and not much else.

I think if we have the right to own nukes others should too. What gives us the right to go around telling others what to have and what not to have? And leave them vulnerable for us to invade them at anytime?

Birth Privileges Have Led to Decade After Decadent Decade, Generation After Degenerate Generation

What gives backward races the right to claim they are equal? If advanced people don't get rid of the powerful and malignant Whiteys Hating Whitey preaching suicidal ethics to us, we deserve to be conquered by savages.

best not to resort to the color wheel-----it is only a matter
of wavelength

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The one thing the Idiot-in Chief has done is send a message to all governments on this Earth that the word the United States commits to in any agreement is subject to the whim of any future President after a number of years have passed. That fucking NARCISSISTIC FOOL has done grave damage to the reputation of this Nation and is unconscionable!

upon the senate agreeing to this deal; NOT a President! So now, the senate has it! Go lobby your senator-)

I'd rather lob grenades at him. It works great in a lizard-infested swamp.

 

[my2¢]

Trump says the same thing about every deal. I don't share his feeling that the sky is falling.

 

[velvtacheeze]

This took guts. I applaud President Trump for doing it. The iran deal guaranteed us that Iran would get Nukes after ten years, at best. Trump was right that it was the worst deal ever negotiated.

The so-called iran “deal”, fucks over Americans… Fact

We are closer to war now, no thanks to conservative Americans. Their constant threats to Iran are the root cause of the Iranian nuclear program. If the GOP would just stfu about Iran, then they would have no desire for nukes.

Under GOP Presidents, the US invaded Iran's neighbors and destroyed the countries. Iran is right that a nuke will keep the US from doing it to them too.

 

[RASTAMEN]

The one thing the Idiot-in Chief has done is send a message to all governments on this Earth that the word the United States commits to in any agreement is subject to the whim of any future President after a number of years have passed. That fucking NARCISSISTIC FOOL has done grave damage to the reputation of this Nation and is unconscionable!

Old news. Abandoning S. Vietnam did that decades ago. Which Idiot-in-Chief are you talking about?

The Vietnam war is Old News. We got our ass's kicked by farmers! Another example of how Whitey foolishly believed they could beat anyone.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Abandoning a deal with the devil is not a bad thing.

 

[JoeB131]

Sanctions Are for Sissies

They backed down when Reagan, through back channels, threatened to nuke them unless they released the hostages.

Bullshit. The Iranians had already agreed to release the hostages, they just delayed it until Jimmy Carter left office as one last "Fuck you" to Carter.

By the way, the Marines were sissies who surrendered to a mob of teenagers. I fought in Vietnam while the Embassy-Duty Marines lived like princes. In our time, those who have it soft are the least deserving.

So you really think shooting a bunch of Iranian Students would have made it better, how, exactly?

Here's what SHOULD have happened. We should have turned the Shah over because he was a cocksucker and deserved whatever he was going to get.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The one thing the Idiot-in Chief has done is send a message to all governments on this Earth that the word the United States commits to in any agreement is subject to the whim of any future President after a number of years have passed. That fucking NARCISSISTIC FOOL has done grave damage to the reputation of this Nation and is unconscionable!

Old news. Abandoning S. Vietnam did that decades ago. Which Idiot-in-Chief are you talking about?

The Vietnam war is Old News. We got our ass's kicked by farmers! Another example of how Whitey foolishly believed they could beat anyone.

No, by a media shift of public opinion, and certain politicians. The military was not permitted to win.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump says the same thing about every deal. I don't share his feeling that the sky is falling.

I would be impressed if he actually negotiated a good deal instead of bitching about all the other deals other people made.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Trump says the same thing about every deal. I don't share his feeling that the sky is falling.

I would be impressed if he actually negotiated a good deal instead of bitching about all the other deals other people made.

You'll bitch no matter what. It's what you Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers do.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Abandoning a deal with the devil is not a bad thing.

The devil? These kinds of simplistic, oafish "arguments" that rightwing kooks make are why liberals look down on them as stupid.

 

[velvtacheeze]

Trump says the same thing about every deal. I don't share his feeling that the sky is falling.

I would be impressed if he actually negotiated a good deal instead of bitching about all the other deals other people made.

You'll bitch no matter what. It's what you Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers do.

No, if he really gets Iran, and the other countries in the deal to agree to a new deal that he likes, and accomplishes what the GOP thinks is better, then we won't bitch. But we know he won't do it, and can't do it. 1. He's an idiot. 2. The Iranians aren't scared of the US military, thanks to the GOP's clusterfuck war in Iraq.

 

[Siete]

Trump says the same thing about every deal. I don't share his feeling that the sky is falling.

I would be impressed if he actually negotiated a good deal instead of bitching about all the other deals other people made.

impressed isnt the word ... flabberghasted - [[[[[[[[[[ SHOCKED ]]]]]]]]

but for a candidate who constantly bragged about his negotiating skills being second to none, it aint EVER EVER EVER gonna happen

 

[KissMy]

Obama got blisters on his lips from kissing the Iranian's asses so much.
The Iranians have sworn to kill Americans and to remove Israel from of the face of the earth.
Obama is a traitor.

The bad parts of Iran deal were done under Bush. He gave them the ability to keep enriching uranium. The only alternative is to attack Iran & North Korea who are allied with China & Russia. So unless you have the stones to start un-survivable WWIII, then crawl back into your hole & STFU!

Doormats and Doomsayers

Never negotiate out of fear, always force your enemies to negotiate out of fear. Russia and China won't risk anything for those two basketcases. So NoKo and Iranistan will be all alone when the lights go out.

We had Iran surrounded with our troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, Turkey & the Gulf of Oman. Bush threatened to crush them from all sides. Iran attacked & killed our soldiers in Iraq & supplied Iraq with nearly all their IED's that killed more of our soldiers than Iraq did. Iran said in negotiations that they had done this & would continue. That was the best Bush could force them to accept. They are prepared to fight & die over that agreement.

So a blustering old salesman is not going to do more than our military could when we had them surrounded. The only people Trump fools is his voting base. He thinks acting like a mean crazy madman will scare them, but all it does is drives them to harden their defences. Either attack Iran & North Korea without notice or let it lie.

 

[Flash]

GOP's warmongering at fever pitch. The flopped and failed Iraq War didn't teach them a thing.

That asshole Obama was at war every day of administration. He fought the war in Iraq for three years, escalated the war in Afghanistan and bombed Libya that was never a threat to the US. When you Moon Bats complain about war mongering you just sound like hypocritical shitheads.

 

[velvtacheeze]

GOP's warmongering at fever pitch. The flopped and failed Iraq War didn't teach them a thing.

That asshole Obama was at war every day of administration. He fought the war in Iraq for three years, escalated the war in Afghanistan and bombed Libya that was never a threat to the US. When you Moon Bats complain about war mongering you just sound like hypocritical shitheads.

Obama finally ended the failed Iraq War, killed OBL , and admitted later that his actions in Libya were a mistake. To this day, very few GOPers will admit that their Bushtarded era foreign policy was a mistake.