ReinyDays
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So ... we can still troll and post off-topic in the "Announcements and Feedback" forum? ...
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And now folks, behold with your own eyes . . here come the defenders of derailing threads. I yield the floor:
Most mods are corrupt and don't do their jobs correctly. That's all. I know there is one good mod, one wishy washy mod, and two that put Hunter Biden to shame, but thats all I know of to date..Adding more mod controls to the Racism forum has not, in my opinion, improved the communications. I doubt it will in Politics either.
As one who is new to this forum I will say this:View attachment 699885
"To cut down on the abuse and to increase the quality/exchange in threads in the Politics Forum, it is imperative that we begin to eliminate "off topic" posts, aka trolling, in the Politics Forum. Below you will find examples of what is unacceptable and will be removed from the the forum."
I love this. This is great.
Its too bad its not enforced.
Every time I start a thread a swarm of leftists come in and derail it. Its getting real old man. Any when I report it? My reports are met with crickets chirping, or if I am lucky a mod my derail my report and start accusing ME of stuff..
I see some mods have plenty of time to post stupid Marxist leftwing bullshit in threads (no names but rhymes with Peyote and Won't Phase Me Moe) but apparently they have not time for this, and when its reported they have no time for that either.
If a forum allows threads to be destroyed then whats the point of even having a forum.
And now folks, behold with your own eyes . . here come the defenders of derailing threads. I yield the floor:
Then you might as well ban me because I love cats and they're more likeable than you after the way you've been treating me lately. You're the one who's a troll.
As one who is new to this forum I will say this:
I find the "hands off" approach of moderation here genuinely refreshing.
The last board I frequented had helicopter moderators and was a pain in the arse to navigate. And nothing was ever explained, so you'd never know what was going to be considered an offensive thought crime.
It also only ever tended to flow in one political direction. (I'm sure you can guess.)
I appreciate your concerns and don't doubt their validity - but trust me - it could be way worse!
If I had to choose I guess I will say that hands off is better than over moderation. But when you can't even start a thread, that really should be dealt with, especially since they are the one who posted the Sticky about it.
I like your posts by the way
I don't think insulting the poster is actually a counter point Unless you've changed the definition.For some it seems, a counter point is nothing but trolling.
View attachment 699885
"To cut down on the abuse and to increase the quality/exchange in threads in the Politics Forum, it is imperative that we begin to eliminate "off topic" posts, aka trolling, in the Politics Forum. Below you will find examples of what is unacceptable and will be removed from the the forum."
I love this. This is great.
Its too bad its not enforced.
Every time I start a thread a swarm of leftists come in and derail it. Its getting real old man. Any when I report it? My reports are met with crickets chirping, or if I am lucky a mod my derail my report and start accusing ME of stuff..
I see some mods have plenty of time to post stupid Marxist leftwing bullshit in threads (no names but rhymes with Peyote and Won't Phase Me Moe) but apparently they have not time for this, and when its reported they have no time for that either.
If a forum allows threads to be destroyed then whats the point of even having a forum.
And now folks, behold with your own eyes . . here come the defenders of derailing threads. I yield the floor:
View attachment 699885
"To cut down on the abuse and to increase the quality/exchange in threads in the Politics Forum, it is imperative that we begin to eliminate "off topic" posts, aka trolling, in the Politics Forum. Below you will find examples of what is unacceptable and will be removed from the the forum."
I love this. This is great.
Its too bad its not enforced.
Every time I start a thread a swarm of leftists come in and derail it. Its getting real old man. Any when I report it? My reports are met with crickets chirping, or if I am lucky a mod my derail my report and start accusing ME of stuff..
I see some mods have plenty of time to post stupid Marxist leftwing bullshit in threads (no names but rhymes with Peyote and Won't Phase Me Moe) but apparently they have not time for this, and when its reported they have no time for that either.
If a forum allows threads to be destroyed then whats the point of even having a forum.
And now folks, behold with your own eyes . . here come the defenders of derailing threads. I yield the floor:
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The problem is who defines trolling. Currently it's an issue
It's nor the rules so much as the agenda-driven manner in which they are actually enforced that is the real issue, here.
At the end of the day, there's really no such thing as a ''troll.''
You're either capable of making your case, which theoretical ''trolls'' aren't interested in anyway, and if they see you doing that, they'll go away....which makes them a non-entity. Trolls aren't interested in functional debate. They're only interested in destroying it. But If they are met with functional debate consistently, are shown that you will not back down from encouraging and expecting them to participate relevantly, fruitfully and functonally, they will go away. Because that's the opposite of what they're looking for. It's antithetical to their function.
Or...you can't make your case or defend your own spew and rely on the ease of just calling them a troll as some kind of defense mechanism, and to avoid any kind of responsibility for not demonstrating the capacity to make your own case or to defend your own spew. And, of course, that's when 'trolls'' actually spring into existence. Their entire existence is dependent upon you're own ability or inability to support your own argument. Your ability to enforce the expectation that they contribute to discussion fruitfully. If they recognize that they simply won't be expected to contribute in a meaningful, fruitful, functional way, because you yourself aren't placing that intellectual burden on them, they'll flourish. Or, as I'd mentioned, spring into existence.
It's kind of like when people go blaming things on the devil. Its so much easier to do that than to take responsibility.
It's a bit of a backward phenomenon, however, when an OP itself is a low-value ''troll'' thread. In that case, you end up with a troll calling you a troll because you held their feet to the fire.