To the fringe left and right - stop pretending to care about America

[LoneLaugher]

Past the point of no return ^

Funny thing, you are a Marxist, yet I am able to have reasoned conversations with you. LoneLaugher claims to be a moderate, yet reasoning with her is virtually impossible. I think that the democrat agenda is such that they simply cannot be reasoned with.

First, I am a man. I’m 54 years old, i have a beard.I own a business, I’m 6’2” tall and I weigh about 235 lbs. Please adjust your whacked out image of who and what I am accordingly.

Second, I am fairly moderate in that I don’t run around saying batshit crazy things nor do I threaten people. You say batshit nutball things here every day. You and I can’t have normal conversations because you fucking lie and make false accusations in just about every post you make. You’re a nut.

Next.

 

[LoneLaugher]

The radical left wants to take care of the nation, get education to people, and have all Americans covered under medical care.

The radical right wants to **** people.

They are not the same.

Dean, you seek genocide of white people and Christians, You want to "take care of" half the nation by putting us in concentration camps. We've seen what you do, Never again.

^^^^^^batshit crazy false accusation^^^^^

Right on cue.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I've never read

You are one of the more radical Marxist demagogues around here.

I am?

Yes, you very much are. We have both been around here a very long time. Your positions are out there in a thousand threads.Radical left is the only way to describe them.

Please tell me the one of the radical fringe things that I have said here. Give us an example.

Tell you what, I'll point it out next time you promote a radical left position.

Say, what are your thoughts on the Green Raw Deal?

Gee! I can’t wait. You’ll be watching me. So cool.

The Green New Deal is a resolution which outlays a list of ideals aimed at preserving our economy by addressing the urgent climate change crisis that we are facing.

I think getting excited about it one way or another is stupid as it is not specific legislation and any part of it will take years to accomplish legislatively.

I am in favor of big picture visionary thinking on the part of our elected officials. Aren’t you?

So, I figured I could get you to show that you are a RADICAL, EXTREME LEFT whackjob with that question, you didn't disappoint.

The Green Raw Deal is flat out Marxism, the utter and complete destruction of the United States with the adoption of a Stalinist level Marxist dictatorship.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There is no common ground to be shared

Philosophically no. You don't think it's possible to make deals in congress?

Point to a deal in the last decade where the left compromised? "Deal" is code for the right caving to the left gaining nothing in return.

The Affordable Care Act.

Next.

Uh, Fascist Care was crammed down the throat of America without a HINT of compromise from the radical left democrats. It was passed with ZERO Republican support BECAUSE the ruling democrats refused to compromise on ANYTHING.

Part of being reasonable means not flat out lying, you have a serious problem with that part.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I've never read

I am?

Yes, you very much are. We have both been around here a very long time. Your positions are out there in a thousand threads.Radical left is the only way to describe them.

Please tell me the one of the radical fringe things that I have said here. Give us an example.

Tell you what, I'll point it out next time you promote a radical left position.

Say, what are your thoughts on the Green Raw Deal?

Gee! I can’t wait. You’ll be watching me. So cool.

The Green New Deal is a resolution which outlays a list of ideals aimed at preserving our economy by addressing the urgent climate change crisis that we are facing.

I think getting excited about it one way or another is stupid as it is not specific legislation and any part of it will take years to accomplish legislatively.

I am in favor of big picture visionary thinking on the part of our elected officials. Aren’t you?

So, I figured I could get you to show that you are a RADICAL, EXTREME LEFT whackjob with that question, you didn't disappoint.

The Green Raw Deal is flat out Marxism, the utter and complete destruction of the United States with the adoption of a Stalinist level Marxist dictatorship.

It is? Who’s gonna be the dictator?

 

[Confounding]

complete destruction of the United States with the adoption of a Stalinist level Marxist dictatorship.

Do you honestly think that might happen?

 

[LoneLaugher]

There is no common ground to be shared

Philosophically no. You don't think it's possible to make deals in congress?

Point to a deal in the last decade where the left compromised? "Deal" is code for the right caving to the left gaining nothing in return.

The Affordable Care Act.

Next.

Uh, Fascist Care was crammed down the throat of America without a HINT of compromise from the radical left democrats. It was passed with ZERO Republican support BECAUSE the ruling democrats refused to compromise on ANYTHING.

Part of being reasonable means not flat out lying, you have a serious problem with that part.

You are incorrect. You have zero interest in the truth or the facts of the matter. The ACA was in itself a compromise and a nod to the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney’s plan for MA.

Stop lying.

LOL, who am I kidding. You can’t.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Past the point of no return ^

Funny thing, you are a Marxist, yet I am able to have reasoned conversations with you. LoneLaugher claims to be a moderate, yet reasoning with her is virtually impossible. I think that the democrat agenda is such that they simply cannot be reasoned with.

First, I am a man. I’m 54 years old, i have a beard.I own a business, I’m 6’2” tall and I weigh about 235 lbs. Please adjust your whacked out image of who and what I am accordingly.

Second, I am fairly moderate in that I don’t run around saying batshit crazy things nor do I threaten people. You say batshit nutball things here every day. You and I can’t have normal conversations because you fucking lie and make false accusations in just about every post you make. You’re a nut.

Next.

Dude, you're a bit to the left of Mao. Claiming that "fascist care" represented "compromise" by the democrats is the epitome of "batshit crazy."

 

[Uncensored2008]

The radical left wants to take care of the nation, get education to people, and have all Americans covered under medical care.

The radical right wants to **** people.

They are not the same.

Dean, you seek genocide of white people and Christians, You want to "take care of" half the nation by putting us in concentration camps. We've seen what you do, Never again.

^^^^^^batshit crazy false accusation^^^^^

Right on cue.

Absolutely accurate description of what dean advocates.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Past the point of no return ^

Funny thing, you are a Marxist, yet I am able to have reasoned conversations with you. LoneLaugher claims to be a moderate, yet reasoning with her is virtually impossible. I think that the democrat agenda is such that they simply cannot be reasoned with.

First, I am a man. I’m 54 years old, i have a beard.I own a business, I’m 6’2” tall and I weigh about 235 lbs. Please adjust your whacked out image of who and what I am accordingly.

Second, I am fairly moderate in that I don’t run around saying batshit crazy things nor do I threaten people. You say batshit nutball things here every day. You and I can’t have normal conversations because you fucking lie and make false accusations in just about every post you make. You’re a nut.

Next.

Dude, you're a bit to the left of Mao. Claiming that "fascist care" represented "compromise" by the democrats is the epitome of "batshit crazy."

OK.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I've never read

Yes, you very much are. We have both been around here a very long time. Your positions are out there in a thousand threads.Radical left is the only way to describe them.

Please tell me the one of the radical fringe things that I have said here. Give us an example.

Tell you what, I'll point it out next time you promote a radical left position.

Say, what are your thoughts on the Green Raw Deal?

Gee! I can’t wait. You’ll be watching me. So cool.

The Green New Deal is a resolution which outlays a list of ideals aimed at preserving our economy by addressing the urgent climate change crisis that we are facing.

I think getting excited about it one way or another is stupid as it is not specific legislation and any part of it will take years to accomplish legislatively.

I am in favor of big picture visionary thinking on the part of our elected officials. Aren’t you?

So, I figured I could get you to show that you are a RADICAL, EXTREME LEFT whackjob with that question, you didn't disappoint.

The Green Raw Deal is flat out Marxism, the utter and complete destruction of the United States with the adoption of a Stalinist level Marxist dictatorship.

It is? Who’s gonna be the dictator?

Comrade, you advocate payments to those who refuse to work as part of the raw deal you support; how do you intend to pay for this? Simple, you intend to take money from those who DO work, or more honestly you intend to do away with wages and just offer a government stipend regardless of whether someone produces anything in society.

You claim to have a business, a claim I find suspect to say the least, but let's pretend you really do have one. A business requires that you get some sort of supplies, raw materials or wholesale goods, something. Should you pay those who do not provide goods to your business the same as you pay those who do provide goods? Why, or why not?

If you are a baker, do you pay those who do not deliver flour the same as you pay those who deliver the flour? Clearly you expect your customers to pay you whether you provide them with goods or not.

Because what you propose is batshit crazy, because it is actually evil, the ONLY way to achieve such idiocy is through force, which is WHY you Marxists ALWAYS resort to dictatorship, to force your evil on those who produce goods.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You don't. All you care about is attacking each other and getting a leg up in the never ending partisan fight. If you cared about the health of this nation you'd be open minded to the possibility of cooperation and improvement. You'd want to find ways to deescalate hostilities. You wouldn't be terrified of being cooperative with anything because the other side might get a tally on their wall.

edited-meister

Nonsense.

In fact, there’s merit to the argument that you and other non-committal fence-sitters are what’s wrong with this country.

 

[Uncensored2008]

complete destruction of the United States with the adoption of a Stalinist level Marxist dictatorship.

Do you honestly think that might happen?

10 years ago, did you honestly think that people would run for congress on the platform of socialism?

The democrats have lurched HARD left. The goal of the left guard of the party is the end of the Republic, that is simply fact. democrats wage hot war on civil rights. The destruction of free speech is a major initiative with Nazi style "shaming" of words and ideas already a major part of the culture. One may not DARE oppose homosexuality lest they lose their job and be ostracized from every aspect of life. Religion is severely restricted with states such as Colorado engaging in open persecution of Christians. Attacks on freedom of the press with the DNC prohibition of Fox at presidential debates. President Trump has repealed this, but prior to him the open spying on American citizens by the NSA and FBI without warrant or the victims knowledge.

Do I honestly think this might happen? It's 75% in place already.

 

[Confounding]

Nonsense.

In fact, there’s merit to the argument that you and other non-committal fence-sitters are what’s wrong with this country.

I hope at the very least you're voting against the partisan puppets in Democrat primaries, but you probably went and voted for Hillary.

 

[Confounding]

10 years ago, did you honestly think that people would run for congress on the platform of socialism?

To my knowledge none of the people calling themselves socialists are advocating for overthrowing the free market and giving total control to Uncle Sam. They are advocating for Scandinavian style social safety nets, which can coexist with capitalism.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You are incorrect. You have zero interest in the truth or the facts of the matter. The ACA was in itself a compromise and a nod to the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney’s plan for MA.

Stop lying.

LOL, who am I kidding. You can’t.

Again, reasoned debate means honest representation of ideas, you simply are not honest, not even in the same zip code as honest.

The Heritage essay that you of the left like to point to is from 1996. It had nothing to do with the fabric or architecture of Fascist Care. You have been corrected on this lie before, meaning that your intent is to deceive. You are simply dishonest.

As for the government health care in Massachusetts, it was a disaster in the end. Further, it was not part of Obama's Fascist Care plan. That there have been other plans that have some similarities to Fascist Care in no way indicates "compromise" by the democrats. Compromise would have included listening to Republicans and moderating certain aspects - that was not done. Fascist Care was shoved down the throat of the nation with ZERO input or compromise from the Republicans or from the citizens.

 

[Uncensored2008]

10 years ago, did you honestly think that people would run for congress on the platform of socialism?

To my knowledge none of the people calling themselves socialists are advocating for overthrowing the free market and giving total control to Uncle Sam. They are advocating for Scandinavian style social safety nets, which can coexist with capitalism.

Then you are not paying attention.

{
“Capitalism is an ideology of capital — the most important thing is the concentration of capital and to seek and maximize profit,” Ocasio-Cortez said during the interview, before making the argument that capitalism is destructive because it aims to hurt people and the environment.

“To me, capitalism is irredeemable,” she added.}

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Calls Capitalism 'Irredeemable'

 

[LoneLaugher]

You are incorrect. You have zero interest in the truth or the facts of the matter. The ACA was in itself a compromise and a nod to the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney’s plan for MA.

Stop lying.

LOL, who am I kidding. You can’t.

Again, reasoned debate means honest representation of ideas, you simply are not honest, not even in the same zip code as honest.

The Heritage essay that you of the left like to point to is from 1996. It had nothing to do with the fabric or architecture of Fascist Care. You have been corrected on this lie before, meaning that your intent is to deceive. You are simply dishonest.

As for the government health care in Massachusetts, it was a disaster in the end. Further, it was not part of Obama's Fascist Care plan. That there have been other plans that have some similarities to Fascist Care in no way indicates "compromise" by the democrats. Compromise would have included listening to Republicans and moderating certain aspects - that was not done. Fascist Care was shoved down the throat of the nation with ZERO input or compromise from the Republicans or from the citizens.

OK.

 

[Confounding]

10 years ago, did you honestly think that people would run for congress on the platform of socialism?

To my knowledge none of the people calling themselves socialists are advocating for overthrowing the free market and giving total control to Uncle Sam. They are advocating for Scandinavian style social safety nets, which can coexist with capitalism.

Then you are not paying attention.

{
“Capitalism is an ideology of capital — the most important thing is the concentration of capital and to seek and maximize profit,” Ocasio-Cortez said during the interview, before making the argument that capitalism is destructive because it aims to hurt people and the environment.

“To me, capitalism is irredeemable,” she added.}

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Calls Capitalism 'Irredeemable'

She didn't say that she wants to get rid of the free market. I think there is a lot of confusion with these labels and that some people don't actually understand what they're asking for. They want what Scandinavia has, and that is a capitalist society. Talk to some of these lefties about it some time. Ask them what they want from our government. You'll get a list of a bunch of shit they're already doing in Europe.

 

[Blackrook]

You don't. All you care about is attacking each other and getting a leg up in the never ending partisan fight. If you cared about the health of this nation you'd be open minded to the possibility of cooperation and improvement. You'd want to find ways to deescalate hostilities. You wouldn't be terrified of being cooperative with anything because the other side might get a tally on their wall.

edited-meister

How do you compromise with people who support abortion and infanticide?