Tipping: Am I the Only One who Gets It?

DGS49

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I am on a FaceBook feed to Amtrak "enthusiasts" who post about their plans, trips, problems, and enjoyment of Amtrak travel. The subject of tipping the "cabin boys" (or whatever they are called) often arises, with a great variety of sentiments expressed.

This is what everyone should know about tipping.

The Fair Labor Standards Act provides a "special" minimum wage for "tipped employees," the most prominent example of which are table servers (formerly called, "waitresses") in eating establishments. For THOSE PEOPLE, the MW is $2.13/hr. Obviously, the reason why they have a lower MW is because it is presumed that they will come up to at least the MW when tips are included in their compensation calculation. In fact, the restaurants are supposed to monitor what they make in tips, and supplement it to the regular MW ($7.25/hr) if the tips are insufficient to get them there.

Most Americans used to tip about 1/7 or 15% of the gross amount of the bill, but since the Covid insanity that has been increased to a "customary" tip of 20%.

Now we come to what might be called, "counter service," most typically, the Baristas at Starbuck's and similar venues. This is a fundamentally different proposition. These people ARE subject to the regular MW, and typically are paid at least $10/hr. Moreover, they are not delivering food to your table, they merely prepare it. Under normal circumstances they are entitled to no tip, under the FLSA. But if their service is exceptional, give them something - but less than the 20% you would give to "tipped employees," right?

Usually this is done via a "tip jar," placed next to the cash register.

Now, I'm told, if you pay with a card, the screen prompts you to make a tip, and suggests 15 or 20 percent. I've never seen it myself (I always pay cash), but if it does happen, it is outrageous. You are put in the position of having to make or decline a tip when the Barista is looking at the screen? Are you kidding me? And they haven't prepared your order yet? The mind reels.

Finally we come to Amtrak, and the ordinary services that the Porter provides if you have a sleeping compartment (as opposed to riding "Coach").

These people are union members, with lifetime employment guarantees, good compensation, great benefits, and early retirement. And people feel obliged to TIP THEM????? Shouldn't "we" be entitled to excellent service as a matter of course?

It is beyond absurd. And yet when I point this out of FB, people do their best to tear me a new A-H for being such a cad.

Other opinions?
 
Sometimes the prompts backfire. I might have thought to leave $5.00 but the prompt for 20% is $4. 65. I just hit the prompt. Now I doubt this means the person won't be able to eat that day, but just noting.
 
If you can't afford to tip you can't afford to go out. I tip generously because service jobs suck.
 
If you can't afford to tip you can't afford to go out. I tip generously because service jobs suck.
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If it's your job to stand to stand behind a counter a pour me a cup of coffee then you're not waiting on me, I'm waiting on you.
 
If you can't afford to tip you can't afford to go out. I tip generously because service jobs suck.
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Mr. Pink : "I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds."
 
I've dated a lot of waitresses and barmaids. I know what they go through and I strive to make sure I am not part of anyone's bad day at work.
I tip them even when the food isn't up to par, it isn't their fault (it is there fault if I politely complain and they don't replace it, that's only been once).
 
I am on a FaceBook feed to Amtrak "enthusiasts" who post about their plans, trips, problems, and enjoyment of Amtrak travel. The subject of tipping the "cabin boys" (or whatever they are called) often arises, with a great variety of sentiments expressed.

This is what everyone should know about tipping.

The Fair Labor Standards Act provides a "special" minimum wage for "tipped employees," the most prominent example of which are table servers (formerly called, "waitresses") in eating establishments. For THOSE PEOPLE, the MW is $2.13/hr. Obviously, the reason why they have a lower MW is because it is presumed that they will come up to at least the MW when tips are included in their compensation calculation. In fact, the restaurants are supposed to monitor what they make in tips, and supplement it to the regular MW ($7.25/hr) if the tips are insufficient to get them there.

Most Americans used to tip about 1/7 or 15% of the gross amount of the bill, but since the Covid insanity that has been increased to a "customary" tip of 20%.

Now we come to what might be called, "counter service," most typically, the Baristas at Starbuck's and similar venues. This is a fundamentally different proposition. These people ARE subject to the regular MW, and typically are paid at least $10/hr. Moreover, they are not delivering food to your table, they merely prepare it. Under normal circumstances they are entitled to no tip, under the FLSA. But if their service is exceptional, give them something - but less than the 20% you would give to "tipped employees," right?

Usually this is done via a "tip jar," placed next to the cash register.

Now, I'm told, if you pay with a card, the screen prompts you to make a tip, and suggests 15 or 20 percent. I've never seen it myself (I always pay cash), but if it does happen, it is outrageous. You are put in the position of having to make or decline a tip when the Barista is looking at the screen? Are you kidding me? And they haven't prepared your order yet? The mind reels.

Finally we come to Amtrak, and the ordinary services that the Porter provides if you have a sleeping compartment (as opposed to riding "Coach").

These people are union members, with lifetime employment guarantees, good compensation, great benefits, and early retirement. And people feel obliged to TIP THEM????? Shouldn't "we" be entitled to excellent service as a matter of course?

It is beyond absurd. And yet when I point this out of FB, people do their best to tear me a new A-H for being such a cad.

Other opinions?
Tips are for personal service.
If I go to starbucks and get a "coffee" then I don't tip. But if I order something like Niles Crane then I tip.

I am not responsible for enhancing the wages of counter personnel. By doing so I allow management to continue underpaying and stuffing their own wallets.
 
I tip them even when the food isn't up to par, it isn't their fault (it is there fault if I politely complain and they don't replace it, that's only been once).
Tipping well and being nice pays dividends the next time you come in. That waitress is on the ball and extra courteous from the moment you walk in the door.
 
So, you have never received bad service?
Of course but I'm pretty easy going about it. It will count in my decision on where to eat next time but that's about it. The people I see complaining most are demanding customers that require a lot of attention. I'm not like that. I know what I want to eat when they get there and I eat what's set before me.
 
but since the Covid insanity that has been increased to a "customary" tip of 20%.

I look at it differently: Those service people might infect me with Covid so I tip LESS now. 12%. And if they are vaccinated, I figure they used to blame me for murdering millions by being unvaccinated, so I tip those people nothing. :SMILEW~130:
 
So I'm the only one who considers whether they are "tipped employees"?

Surely this is not a random sample of American humans.
 
So I'm the only one who considers whether they are "tipped employees"?

Surely this is not a random sample of American humans.
No one in the service industry is getting rich. What's it cost to be a decent, generous human? A few bucks?
 

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