This Is What America Would look Like If....

[westwall]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because liberals learn the lessons of history while "conservatives" insist that they be allowed to repeat their mistakes.

You have that backwards.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Every socialistic government has failed. That's pretty compelling evidence.

 

[JFK_USA]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

What are these so called "burdensome regulations"? I never actually hear what exact burdensome regulations they keep on talking about.

See it's all a guise to go along with cutting the EPA budget, then when a company does (which is guaranteed to happen) egregiously breaks the law, the republicans will call the government inept even though their cuts help facilitate the ease of which these companies break the law.

I mean who gives a shit right? Fvck the environment. I mean it's like we have so many more habitable options of planets we can go to in the future, oh wait...... (Obvious sarcasm is obvious)

 

[westwall]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

What are these so called "burdensome regulations"? I never actually hear what exact burdensome regulations they keep on talking about.

See it's all a guise to go along with cutting the EPA budget, then when a company does (which is guaranteed to happen) egregiously breaks the law, the republicans will call the government inept even though their cuts help facilitate the ease of which these companies break the law.

I mean who gives a shit right? Fvck the environment. I mean it's like we have so many more habitable options of planets we can go to in the future, oh wait...... (Obvious sarcasm is obvious)

Typical progressive interjecting where you have no clue of what you speak. Here's one for you....

"Washington D.C. – The Environment Subcommittee today held a hearing to examine the EPA’s upcoming review of the National Ambient Air Quality Standards (NAAQS) for ozone. As directed by the Clean Air Act, the EPA reviews and sets standards for pollutants considered harmful to public health and the environment every five years. During the last review in 2008, the ozone standard was set at 75 parts per billion.
Even though precursor emissions for ozone have decreased by 50 percent over the last 30 years, and states have yet to begin implementing the 2008 ozone standards, the EPA is considering lowering ozone standards to 60 parts per billion. Witnesses said such new standards would set the NAAQS either at, or below, naturally occurring background levels in many parts of the country."

Witnesses Say EPA s Forthcoming Ozone Standards Impossible to Meet Committee on Science - U.S. House of Representatives


Now, do you understand what that means? Here's a hint. You own a company. The EPA now gets to sue you, and put you out of business, because you can't meet a air quality control number. Because the number is lower than what actually occurs NATURALLY!

Do you understand that?

They have similar regs for fuel that they are currently fining people for not being in compliance with....even though the mandated fuel DOESN'T EXIST!

And I can go for days about their wetland regs that allow them to take over a persons property if they built a pond on it. Oh no, silly person, the only reason why you don't know of what we speak is because you are willfully ignorant.

I suggest you educate yourself.

 

[Stephanie]

I hate leftist crystal ball fear mongering. it sucks

How many time's can they cry this wolf before people see they are full of BS?

the EPA is out of control and is ROLLING all over us without our Representation.

I wouldn't care if they Defunded them, but they haven't so this thread is just more fearmongering

 

[Kondor3]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

And the Cuyahoga river never caught on fire either! It was only after it burned for the 13th time that Nixon formed the EPA. Only fools believe that corporations will "self regulate". There a long and toxic history of corporations polluting the environment.

True enough.

The Corporatists are NOT to be trusted in this regard.

They need the EPA to hold their feet to the fire.

Hell, the EPA needs to be even tougher on those characters.

 

[August West]

Those supposedly job killing regulations put tens of thousands of dollars in my pocket working for a steel producer that made most of the steel for the catalytic converters on your cars. See how that works? There are offsets. We made a nice buck making the alloys used in smoke stack scrubbers too. God bless the Environmental "whackos"

 

[Stephanie]

Those supposedly job killing regulations put tens of thousands of dollars in my pocket working for a steel producer that made most of the steel for the catalytic converters on your cars. See how that works? There are offsets. We made a nice buck making the alloys used in smoke stack scrubbers too. God bless the Environmental "whackos"

ugh, braggarts.

 

[Menerva Lindsen]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

It's a real threat. China is an "idol" in polluting own country. But... They are communists and can decide the problem radically. They will find the guilty and punish him. Here in the USA we will hardly be informed about the case. The justice and the punishment are unfamiliar to the US Government.

 

[percysunshine]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

It's a real threat. China is an "idol" in polluting own country. But... They are communists and can decide the problem radically. They will find the guilty and punish him. Here in the USA we will hardly be informed about the case. The justice and the punishment are unfamiliar to the US Government.

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Yeah, but what about the Tao of Buddha?

.

 

[JFK_USA]

I hate leftist crystal ball fear mongering. it sucks

How many time's can they cry this wolf before people see they are full of BS?

the EPA is out of control and is ROLLING all over us without our Representation.

I wouldn't care if they Defunded them, but they haven't so this thread is just more fearmongering

Did you vote? Then you have representation

 

[idb]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

And the Cuyahoga river never caught on fire either! It was only after it burned for the 13th time that Nixon formed the EPA. Only fools believe that corporations will "self regulate". There a long and toxic history of corporations polluting the environment.

Never claimed that corporations self regulate. Of course they don't.
I said over burdensome regulations.

If they are over-burdensome then why are there still industrial accidents?

Why do airplanes fall out of the sky from time to time? Why do rockets explode on launch sometimes? Why do cars crash into each other sometime? Why do Smart Meters set fire to houses some time?

Do you see where that is headed?

You're right of course...I'm no good at hyperbolic arguments.
I need to up my game.

 

[Dana7360]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

The conservatives don't want to cut the size of the EPA. They want to eliminate it completely.

Removing the regulations on pollution will cause America to have air like China.

You just don't want to admit the facts.

You don't want to accept facts.
They want to cut the size of the EPA and remove the IRS completely.
They do not want to cut regulations we have now.
We have more than 85 to 89% of pollution contained. It's the ones being added now that cost too much.

Conservatives disagree:

It's time to get rid of the EPA | Fox News

GOP: Let's get rid of the EPA, page 1

The Republican plan to abolish the EPA, ending the four-decade bipartisan consensus to ensure healthy air and water for our kids | ThinkProgress

Time to get rid of the EPA - San Diego Conservative | muscletak.co.uk

I'm going to need some credible proof that America has 85-89% of pollution contained.

 

[Stephanie]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

oh for crying out loud, a few links makes ALL CONSERVATIVES? get ahold of yourself.

The conservatives don't want to cut the size of the EPA. They want to eliminate it completely.

Removing the regulations on pollution will cause America to have air like China.

You just don't want to admit the facts.

You don't want to accept facts.
They want to cut the size of the EPA and remove the IRS completely.
They do not want to cut regulations we have now.
We have more than 85 to 89% of pollution contained. It's the ones being added now that cost too much.

Conservatives disagree:

It's time to get rid of the EPA | Fox News

GOP: Let's get rid of the EPA, page 1

The Republican plan to abolish the EPA, ending the four-decade bipartisan consensus to ensure healthy air and water for our kids | ThinkProgress

Time to get rid of the EPA - San Diego Conservative | muscletak.co.uk

I'm going to need some credible proof that America has 85-89% of pollution contained.

oh for crying out loud. A few links of someone saying it make it ALL conservatives. get ahold of yourself.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

Why is it "all or nothing" in the mind of liberals when it comes to conservatives?

Because liberals learn the lessons of history while "conservatives" insist that they be allowed to repeat their mistakes.

You have that backwards.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Every socialistic government has failed. That's pretty compelling evidence.

Onus is on you to prove that the EPA equates to a "socialistic government".

 

[Derideo_Te]

And I can go for days about their wetland regs that allow them to take over a persons property if they built a pond on it.

Building a pond in your backyard would fall under your local township zoning rules that have nothing whatsoever to do with the EPA.

 

[reason10]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

That's a lie.

 

[theHawk]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

The conservatives don't want to cut the size of the EPA. They want to eliminate it completely.

Removing the regulations on pollution will cause America to have air like China.

You just don't want to admit the facts.

You don't want to accept facts.
They want to cut the size of the EPA and remove the IRS completely.
They do not want to cut regulations we have now.
We have more than 85 to 89% of pollution contained. It's the ones being added now that cost too much.

Really?

And you can provide a credible nonpartisan to prove that claim?

Did the OP provide a link proving his claim that this is what Republicans "want"?

 

[PGreen]

Almost half of the U.S. population lives in areas where air pollution levels are often dangerously high for them to breathe. Air pollution dangerously high for almost half of U.S. American Lung Association reports - CBS News

 

[Derideo_Te]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

Inside Beijing's airpocalypse – a city made 'almost uninhabitable' by pollution

No one in this country wants dirty air and water.
Cutting the size of EPA and over burdensome regulations will not cause that.

The conservatives don't want to cut the size of the EPA. They want to eliminate it completely.

Removing the regulations on pollution will cause America to have air like China.

You just don't want to admit the facts.

You don't want to accept facts.
They want to cut the size of the EPA and remove the IRS completely.
They do not want to cut regulations we have now.
We have more than 85 to 89% of pollution contained. It's the ones being added now that cost too much.

Really?

And you can provide a credible nonpartisan to prove that claim?

Did the OP provide a link proving his claim that this is what Republicans "want"?

There have already been links provided proving that Republicans want to eliminate the EPA altogether.

There is still no link to support the claim that "85 to 89% of pollution" is "contained".

 

[Iceweasel]

The conservatives had their way. They would do away with the EPA and all regulations. So that America would be just like China.

I wonder what the world would look like to you if you had more than a room temperature IQ.