This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam

[longknife]

It would seem to be worthwhile to get back to the basis of this thread.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

READ IT and you will come up with some simple reasons that Angola is doing everything it thinks necessary to stop the decades of war and destruction. It is mostly Christian and getting over a Russian-style socialist/communism. The last thing it needs is a small minority creating more death and destruction in the name of its beliefs.

They have a chance to obtain Chinese assistance to improve their economy and way of life. This is an effort to do everything possible to stop a group of fanatics from slowing down or even destroying chances for this advance.

I would not be surprised to see some of its neighbors - Congo, Zaire, Zambia and Namibia - considering the same thing.

 

[Kondor3]

It would seem to be worthwhile to get back to the basis of this thread.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

READ IT and you will come up with some simple reasons that Angola is doing everything it thinks necessary to stop the decades of war and destruction. It is mostly Christian and getting over a Russian-style socialist/communism. The last thing it needs is a small minority creating more death and destruction in the name of its beliefs.

They have a chance to obtain Chinese assistance to improve their economy and way of life. This is an effort to do everything possible to stop a group of fanatics from slowing down or even destroying chances for this advance.

I would not be surprised to see some of its neighbors - Congo, Zaire, Zambia and Namibia - considering the same thing.

Given the ongoing resurgence of Christianity on the African continent, where the world's largest Christian Convert demographic may be found in recent decades, you may be on to something there, with speculation that several other African countries may also clamp down hard on Islam before it can do any real mischief in their domains. It's an unfortunate state of affairs but it's also entirely understandable in light of global developments over the past 20 or 30 years.

 

[Asclepias]

My goodness, protectionist, I certainly admire the amount of time, thought, and effort you put into the above posts.

Sadly, you should know it's a futile waste of time! In spite of logical postings, you are NEVER going to change the illogical minds of ragheads.

The ragheads show up every time I start an OP. That's OK. It's kind of like flies and ants at a picnic.

Then you are like the dog shit that attracts them. Still claiming Islam is not a religion and banned by the Constitution even though you cant point it out?

 

[Kondor3]

"...remember that Christianity is an ASIATIC religious belief system transplanted (most imperfectly) into The West..."

Entirely true but, unlike Islam, which is at its core a Warrior Religion, early Christianity gained great traction throughout much of the Empire (other than its Germanic and Slavic fringes) because it was a Peacemaker Religion of Faith and Good Works - and held-out hope - peace-of-mind in this life and joy in an afterlife - to slaves and the poor and oppressed.

As the Western Empire disintegrated, the Church was the only steadfast factor in what little remained of the social and cultural life of The West, and it took on a decidedly European nature and flavor and lost much of its association with its Middle Eastern and Semitic roots.

By the 1000 A.D. timeframe, Christianity had become a largely European construct and never looked back...

 

[protectionist]

If 'all' means 'all religions'. then YES.

NO. As it is with all law, what is done is done for a reason, not some silly blanket policy. Italy denies religious tax privilege to Islam. They don't deny that privilege to Catholics and Jews. The REASON is because they consider Catholics and Jews to be religions, and they don't acknowledge Islam to be a religion.

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/...d-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status-2

So... as long as a politician has a 'good reason' to create favoritism and blatant discrimination within in a civil code it's o.k.?

Of course it's OK. That's the whole basis of govt. What do you think locking people up in prisons is all about ? It's "favoritism" of the law-abiding over the criminal.
As for "discrimination". Everything we do in life is discrimination. What color shirt you chose to wear today. What route you chose to go to the store. What brand of bread you buy. So you're one of those people who foam at the mouth as soon as you hear the word "discrimination", huh ? Want to let all the lawbreakers out of prisons, to insure we don't "discriminate" ? Sheeeesh!

 

[protectionist]

Banning religion, ANY religion, is against The US Constitution, and I defy you to prove otherwise.

As long as The Constitution stands, the misguided dream of banning Islam from the world will never come true.

Thank (insert your preferred Deity here) for FREEDOM!

Just come stupidly tumbling in here, without reading the thread, right Mr. Clueless ? I've only answered this lamebrain "point" about 100 times in here already, starting with Post # 5, and continuing right up to the present.

1. Islam is not a religion.

2. US Constitution Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause bans Islam (a supremacist ideology, masquerading as a religion)

3. If FREEDOM is your preference, then you cannot support Islam which bans freedom.

That's your opinion... a judgement call on your part, if you will.

I refuse to live with you judging me, and you apparently have issues with my judging you. With that in mind, we have two and only two choices: Fight to the death so that one of us can install our own version of totalitarianism, or some form of tolerance - forced if not voluntary.

Thank (insert your preferred Deity here) for The US Constitution and, at least in your case, forced tolerance.

1. NO, it is NOT my opinion. It is long (1400 years) established FACT that Isalm is an intolerant ideology which specifically (in the Koran) bans freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of women to do many things, freedom of children to be free from pedophilia, freedom of people to be free from slavery, etc. Don't you know anything about Islam ?

2. What makes you say I'm judging you ? Are you a Muslim ?

3. As for fighting to the death to defend against Muslim enforcement, US soldiers are already admirably doing just that, as I did when I was a soldier, and as I do every day, carrying a gun every where I go. Anybody who attacks me (Muslim or otherwise) is going to get instant death.

4. I don't know what you mean by "forced tolerance"

 

[protectionist]

So... create Civil Laws concerning murder and abuse and let religious freedom reign.

Banning beliefs and ideas is NEVER a good idea.

Why?​

Because I guarantee that YOUR beliefs are on somebody's list.

If you had an all this organized in your mind you would be babbling nonsense here.

No, OUR beliefs are not on somebody's list to be banned, unless there is a REASON for it. With Islam there IS a reason. It is supremacist, and thereby violates the Constitution (Article 6, Section 2) It's aslo seditionist, and violates US Codes 2384 & 2385.

All these things are done BY LAW. Not by someone jumping in here, and mindlessly equivocating things that don't equivocate.

Bullshit. My beliefs (which are as far from Islam as they are from the other ancient story inviting the heathen masses to worship The God of Abraham known as The New Testament) are certainly on the lists of some out there, and trust me - especially with your "my way or the highway" attitude about your Christian beliefs, yours would be made illegal by some if they could be.

Now... aren't you glad you live in a country where 51% of the people can't tell the other 49% how to think?

I live in a country where 51% of the people certainly CAN and DO tell the other 49% how to think. That's done by voting, and installing politicians who make the laws and interpret them. And "my way or the highway" is the American system. Didn't you know ? And the "MY" part of it is the AMERICAN PEOPLE, and the US Constitution. Things are done THEIR way, or the highway. AKA . Govt of the people, by the people, for the people. Don't like it ?
You could go to another country. Hmm. Syria. Mexico. Iran. Saudi Arabia. Bon voyage!

 

[protectionist]

That's pretty arrogant. Just who the fuck made you jury, judge and executioner? (a.k.a. 'God')

What's you're problem with what he (Katzndogs) said ? What are you ? Some ragheady loon with a bloody knife in your hand looking for more British soldiers to kill ?
Or some Muslim nutjob who fires somebody from their job, because they brought a Bacon sandwich to lunch ? Get lost creep!

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In other words... "I've got nothing, man. Debating you is too difficult." "Go away and leave me to post my bullshit unchallenged!"


Grow the fuck up, dude.

You've got nothing, and you don't even know what you're talking about. And if you were even 3/4 grown up, you wouldn't be thowing the F word around, Sonny.

 

[protectionist]

The same way way I feel about Christians who knock down Mosques...

Maybe that's because you never read the Koran. Maybe you never read any of the protection books and research/reports/ Maybe because you have no idea what you're talking about. Or maybe because you're a Muslim jihadist yourself ? (??????)

No... it's because I'm a grown up who understands the difference between murderous acts which are, and should be, illegal, and assholier-than-thou thoughts, opinions, and beliefs which, while disgusting in my humble opinion, are perfectly legal. And should be.

How can you possibly defend a call for a robust Thought Police Force?

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HERE's how, dumbass!

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States...shall be the supreme Law of the Land..." Because with Islam, the thoughts aren't just thoughts, they are actions, and very harmful actions, as proven by 1400 years of history. Welcome to the real world.

 

[protectionist]

It would seem to be worthwhile to get back to the basis of this thread.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

READ IT and you will come up with some simple reasons that Angola is doing everything it thinks necessary to stop the decades of war and destruction. It is mostly Christian and getting over a Russian-style socialist/communism. The last thing it needs is a small minority creating more death and destruction in the name of its beliefs.

They have a chance to obtain Chinese assistance to improve their economy and way of life. This is an effort to do everything possible to stop a group of fanatics from slowing down or even destroying chances for this advance.

I would not be surprised to see some of its neighbors - Congo, Zaire, Zambia and Namibia - considering the same thing.

Given the ongoing resurgence of Christianity on the African continent, where the world's largest Christian Convert demographic may be found in recent decades, you may be on to something there, with speculation that several other African countries may also clamp down hard on Islam before it can do any real mischief in their domains. It's an unfortunate state of affairs but it's also entirely understandable in light of global developments over the past 20 or 30 years.

And by "global developments over the past 20 or 30 years" you could be talking about the disgusting degree of Islamization that has taken hold in Europe, and to a lesser extent in the USA (although it is constantly being beaten back here)