This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam

[AVG-JOE]

IT"S STARTING. The Dominos are beginning to fall. Angola today. Eventually, every country in the world will ban Islam. How comforting to see the photograph of the heavy demolition equipment knocking down the minarets, and destroying the mosques. Click the link to see it.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

How do you feel about Muslims who knock down churches?

The same way way I feel about Christians who knock down Mosques...

 

[Peterf]

Jeez, what do you have to do in order to become the most despised group in a fucking place like Angola? Nice work Islam. That religion has quite the knack for making friends across the globe.

I agree with you completely, only with the one point that I don't consider Islam a religion.

Islam is a religion alright - as well as being an all embracing totalitarian political ideology.

Worship an imaginary deity? Check

Build places of worship? Check

Have a ¨Holy Book'? Check

Produce 'clerics'? Check

Exploit the gullible and feeble minded? Check

Yep - Islam is just as much a religion as is Christianity.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

That's why we should stop EVERYONE who's going after ANYONE for their ideas or beliefs.

 

[Peterf]

IT"S STARTING. The Dominos are beginning to fall. Angola today. Eventually, every country in the world will ban Islam. How comforting to see the photograph of the heavy demolition equipment knocking down the minarets, and destroying the mosques. Click the link to see it.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

Excuse me. Weren't you the person who started another thread about banning Islam and claimed that the USA had already banned it? How can Angola be the first? Oh, and which religion is next on your agenda?

Islam isn't a religion. Didn't you know that ? When you get the basics down pat, maybe we'll talk then.

Nothing to stop you repeating your "Islam isn't a religion" mantra indefinitely. You may even find some people to share your opinion, even though it is devoid if any basis in fact or reason.

 

[Peterf]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

That's why we should stop EVERYONE who's going after ANYONE for their ideas or beliefs.

I reluctantly agree. Banning ideas, even evil ideas, never works.

Which is why Germany, for example, is mistaken to make 'holocaust denial' a crime.

Islam should not be banned. It should be carefully monitored and denied any special privileges such as tax breaks

 

[Connery]

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

That's why we should stop EVERYONE who's going after ANYONE for their ideas or beliefs.

I reluctantly agree. Banning ideas, even evil ideas, never works.

Which is why Germany, for example, is mistaken to make 'holocaust denial' a crime.

Islam should not be banned. It should be carefully monitored and denied any special privileges such as tax breaks

Then all should be denied these "special privileges such as tax breaks" you are speaking of.

 

[Connery]

This is what one official stated regarding the situation: “It’s true that several mosques have been destroyed and others simply shut down in the last few months. Most of the mosques that were destroyed were built without government permission. Two authorised mosques in Luanda are still operating without a problem. I have not heard of any official decision to ban Islam or prohibit Muslim prayers in mosques.” Ahmed ould Taher told Al Jazeera."

Angola denies it has banned Islam - Africa - Al Jazeera English

You build it they will come.


However, you better build it with all the proper permissions or they will come and knock it down.

 

[Kondor3]

You get a permit, then you can build it, then they may come... ;-)

 

[AVG-JOE]

How strange that you can't find it (HA HA HA HA), when I've been posting it left and right IN THIS THREAD, over & over. what's the matter ? Lost your reading glasses today ? I've probably posted alltogether in this forum (despite my being new here) over 100 times.
Well OK, Mr. NOT QUITE WITH IT. Here is your law that bans Islam (and any other supremacist ideology as well)

US CONSTITUTION - Article 6, Section 2 (the Supremacy Clause)

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

PS- Islam is also banned by virtue of US Codes 2384 & 2385. Here THEY are.

18 USC § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

18 USC § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

"Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons."

PS - Maybe you hadn't heard but there a whole lot of things that "go directly against the 1st amendment" For example, in the 1st amendment's free speech category, we have slander, libel, perjury, sedition, conspiracy speech of various types, obscenity law, fighting words, inciting a riot, etc. All examples of speech. All ILLEGAL. The 1st amendment, with its many exceptions, is the weakest part of the Constitution. The supremacy clause, with zero exceptions, is the strongest. Also, since Islam is not a religion, it has no connection to the 1st amendment, other than being in total contradiction to it.

I am beginning to think you are seriously confused. Can you make up your mind? Where does it say Islam is banned? The only thing I see is that the Federal government has the final word when it comes to law.

18 USC § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
Did you notice it says persons and not religions?

18 USC § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Again please tell me where it states religions.

You keep saying Islam is not a religion in direct contradiction to the dictionary. They pray to a god named Allah and have religious practices.

Religion:

1.
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

1. Are you blind ? I posted the Supremacy Clause (that's where Isalm is banned) with the pertinent part in bold. Clean your glasses.

2. Ever notice Islam is made up of "persons". Imams who conduct Islamic sermons in mosques. Business owners who make rules Islamically (ex. Lina Morales case). Muslim cab drivers who refuse rides to people with alchohol or dogs. Muslims who bully universities into installing footwashing basins. That's Islam > Persons. And Islam is not a religion. Have you been following this thread ?

3. Actually, it is the dictionary that onfirms that Islam is NOT a religion. Mine (Websters New World College Dictionary, 4th ed.) defines a religion as a system of beliefs, with a code of ethics. It further defines ethics as a MORAL code.

So if you define Islam with all its UNethics**, with all its IMMORALITIES, with all its ILLEGALITES, a religion, then you must not put too much faith in this Websters dictionary.

**

Dude... all that says is that Sharia Law will never be tolerated over Civil Law. It says NOTHING about believing (or not) in any of the ancient stories, including The Koran.

There are also a few lines in there guaranteeing freedom of ideas and beliefs.

As long as Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Witches, Satanists, etc., etc., etc., don't try to impose their faith through the Civil Code, there's nothing to discuss.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Thats why we should stop the Muslims, before they come for you

That's why we should stop EVERYONE who's going after ANYONE for their ideas or beliefs.

I reluctantly agree. Banning ideas, even evil ideas, never works.

Which is why Germany, for example, is mistaken to make 'holocaust denial' a crime.

Islam should not be banned. It should be carefully monitored and denied any special privileges such as tax breaks

As should every other religion...

 

[Jos]

Analyst Alex Vines said the rumours followed Culture Minister Rosa Cruz e Silva's announcement last week that the government would crack down on "sects".

The measure "was targeting mostly Brazil-style evangelical groups that have mushroomed across Angola"

Angola denies banning Islam after outcry

The reporter Nicci Mende,

Small African Nation of Angola

http://guardianlv.com/2013/11/islam-banned-in-angola/
Then posts a picture o this "small nation" as a red dot. In reality it is much bigger, further south, and on the coast

 

[Peterf]

That's why we should stop EVERYONE who's going after ANYONE for their ideas or beliefs.

I reluctantly agree. Banning ideas, even evil ideas, never works.

Which is why Germany, for example, is mistaken to make 'holocaust denial' a crime.

Islam should not be banned. It should be carefully monitored and denied any special privileges such as tax breaks

Then all should be denied these "special privileges such as tax breaks" you are speaking of.

If 'all' means 'all religions'. then YES.

 

[protectionist]

In Athens Muslims are trying to build a mosque. There is a lot of opposition. I am a Greek citizen and I too oppose it.

You've got the right idea.

 

[protectionist]

Wait....So you made all this up! I thought you said Islam was banned but cant produce 1 law on the books reflecting this? You said Islam was not a religion and whiffed on that as well?

Can you explain to me how in the hell you got Islam is banned from this? Seriously I want to know.

So now what;s the problem, Asc Acs, or whatever your name is ? Glasses cleaned. read the Supremacy Clause. But you just don't get it. Could the problem be stupidity maybe ?

Pheeeeeeww!! (high-pitched whistle) No you don't "want to know". Because you already know. And you're retardedly pretending that you don't know. HA HA. Now this is really tough, isn't it ? Supremacy Clause says "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States...shall be the supreme Law of the Land..", but Islam, a supremacist ideology demands that IT must be the supreme law of the land. Would like me to have my 10 year old grandson explain it to you ? Sheeeesh!

Can't produce 1 law on the books, huh ? STOP LYING!

AND STOP LYING about "said Islam was not a religion and whiffed on that" YOU KNOW I did not whiff at all. I produced 15 websites all testifying Islam to NOT be a religion, with thousands of people in those websites, and I showed why it's not a religion with a dictionary definition, as well as the early history of the scam, when Islam was in its infancy.

Bottom line > YOU KNOW I'm right!!

You are quite mad but hey whatever floats your boat. Where does it say Islam is banned like you claimed Protection? I could produce hundreds of websites saying islam is a religion. So I am wondering why you pasting testimonials makes it correct that Islam is not a religion . I can testify until I am blue in the face that Christianity or any other religion is not a religion but that doesn't make me right. Also the Bible itself says its the supreme law. According to the Bible we should only follow laws that follow Gods will. Therefore Christianity asserts itself as the supreme law. You have to do better than that if you want to convince me.

From the Bible:

Acts 5:29
But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.

This one makes it pretty clear the buck stops with God.

Romans 13:1
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

So Is Christianity banned now?


BTW Dont type in capital letters. Its a dead giveaway that you are emotional.

You are a TROLL. You keep repeating things that have already been addressed. You are not here to participate in a meaningful discussion, You are heresimply to DERAIL the thread. I am going to report you, and see to it that YOU are derailed MR TROLL.

 

[protectionist]

Your posting history indicates an inability on your part discern stupidity from wisdom. I strongly recommend you hold on to your benefits for the time being and use them to advance your own education.

My education about Islam and Islamization is from 12 year of study in 25 books and thousands of their footnoted source reports. And you, who got a ZERO on the Islamization Quiz, compared to me, on this subject, you are just being born.

I expect you salute Afolph Hitler whenever you see his photo too.

You and he are two of a kind.

No, Mohammed Morsi, Osama bin Laden, Zawahiri, et al MUSLIMS are two of a kind with Hitler. That's already been explained. And oh, speaking of Hitler's photo's, guess who this is in the photos and video with him and his Nazi troops ? None other than the Grand Mufti - spirtitual and political leader of 100s of thousands of Palestinian Arabs.

http://michelbotman.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/hitler-mufti.jpg

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy3aDIatrY0]Nazi Collaborators The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el Husseini - YouTube[/ame]

 

[protectionist]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

What a WASTE of a perfectly good thread post.

Banning religion, ANY religion, is against The US Constitution, and I defy you to prove otherwise.

As long as The Constitution stands, the misguided dream of banning Islam from the world will never come true.

Thank (insert your preferred Deity here) for FREEDOM!

Just come stupidly tumbling in here, without reading the thread, right Mr. Clueless ? I've only answered this lamebrain "point" about 100 times in here already, starting with Post # 5, and continuing right up to the present.

1. Islam is not a religion.

2. US Constitution Article 6, Section 2, the Supremacy Clause bans Islam (a supremacist ideology, masquerading as a religion)

3. If FREEDOM is your preference, then you cannot support Islam which bans freedom.

 

[protectionist]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

I would agree with you except for the fact that they do their share of liquidating people who aren't of their faith.

So... create Civil Laws concerning murder and abuse and let religious freedom reign.

Banning beliefs and ideas is NEVER a good idea.

Why?​

Because I guarantee that YOUR beliefs are on somebody's list.

If you had an all this organized in your mind you would be babbling nonsense here.

No, OUR beliefs are not on somebody's list to be banned, unless there is a REASON for it. With Islam there IS a reason. It is supremacist, and thereby violates the Constitution (Article 6, Section 2) It's aslo seditionist, and violates US Codes 2384 & 2385.

All these things are done BY LAW. Not by someone jumping in here, and mindlessly equivocating things that don't equivocate.

 

[protectionist]

Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because they were killing Jews.
Then the came for the Christians and I did not speak out because they were slaughtering Christians.
Then the came for the women and gays. I did not speak out because they were beheading women and gays.
When they came for me, no one spoke out because I deserved my fate.

See I fixed it for you.

That's pretty arrogant. Just who the fuck made you jury, judge and executioner? (a.k.a. 'God')

What's you're problem with what he (Katzndogs) said ? What are you ? Some ragheady loon with a bloody knife in your hand looking for more British soldiers to kill ?
Or some Muslim nutjob who fires somebody from their job, because they brought a Bacon sandwich to lunch ? Get lost creep!

 

[protectionist]

"The controversy over reports that the southwest African nation of Angola had banned Islam and begun to demolish mosques took a new turn Tuesday when Manuel Fernando, director of the Angolan Ministry of Culture's National Institute for Religious Affairs, denied both reported measures.

"There is no war in Angola against Islam or any other religion," Fernando told Agence France-Presse. "There is no official position that targets the destruction or closure of places of worship, whichever they are.

“The Republic of Angola … it’s a country that does not interfere in religion,” an official at the embassy said via phone Monday afternoon. “We have a lot of religions there. It is freedom of religion. We have Catholic, Protestants, Baptists, Muslims and evangelical people.”"

Angolan Official Denies Islam Ban, But Muslims Say Mosque Closings Persist

Someone is spinning a yarn....

Another fool tumbling into the thread (and landing on his face), without realizing that what he's saying has already been refuted here. Sheeeesh!! Spinning a yarn ? Yeah. You maybe ?

See Posts # 92, 93, 98.

 

[protectionist]

IT"S STARTING. The Dominos are beginning to fall. Angola today. Eventually, every country in the world will ban Islam. How comforting to see the photograph of the heavy demolition equipment knocking down the minarets, and destroying the mosques. Click the link to see it.

This Country May Have Become the First in the World to Ban Islam - PolicyMic

How do you feel about Muslims who knock down churches?

The same way way I feel about Christians who knock down Mosques...

Maybe that's because you never read the Koran. Maybe you never read any of the protection books and research/reports/ Maybe because you have no idea what you're talking about. Or maybe because you're a Muslim jihadist yourself ? (??????)