There seems to be a lot of confusion about delegate totals in Iowa

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    This should help clear it up, because the media is all over the place from one outlet to the next about who won how many delegates.

    Romney, Santorum, and Paul: How many delegates will each candidate get? - Slate Magazine

    The media has no way of knowing delegate totals at this point. What if Perry, Newt, and Santorum drop out? Any delegates that were going to commit to them would become unbound and up for grabs.

    This is what is meant when people say this is a representative republic, and not a democracy. The candidates are protected from the tyranny of the majority and can still win delegates regardless of how they do in the voting.

    This isn't the case in every state, as some are winner take all. But in a place like Iowa, it is.
     
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    This is no doubt one of the changes that democrats intend to make.
     
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    How do you mean?
     
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    Paul actually had a pretty decent amount of delegates going into many of the state conventions in 2008. What happened was candidates who dropped out enticed their delegates to commit to McCain, and candidates who were still in joined forces and created slates to gather delegates that they then gave to McCain.

    There ends up being a lot of back room wheeling and dealing in the delegate process. Paul supporters said in 2008 that there were party bosses literally begging them to give them delegates in exchange for Paul policies to become included at the conventions.

    They fell for it then, but this time the campaign is professional and has probably one of the strongest organizations any non corporate funded candidate has ever had.

    Romney will most likely win the nomination, but Paul will probably get the 2nd most delegates and have a big impact on the national convention.
     
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    As well as the debates leading up to it.

    Of all the GOP candidates when asked if they'd vote for Ron Paul if he got the nomination only one said yes; Mitt Romney.

    If Mitt wins the nomination and chooses Paul as his veep, I just may hold my nose and vote for him. No, f*ck it, I will vote for him.

    Mitt must know that Ron Paul holds about a third of the voters in his hands.
     
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    There would be no more sure fire way of guaranteeing a win than by choosing Paul as VP.

    I just don't see it happening. It's not about winning it's about the status quo and Paul is the only one who threatens it.
     
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    And Iowas delegates are an insignificant number in comparison to the over 1400 needed for the nomination and New Hampshire has even less (14) to effect the nomination.

    Because of the money the race may be over before the primaries really start although Paul and Romney seem to have what it takes, the others will wither on the vine for lack of cash. Its not about policy or ideas its about money and giving the money men what they want. So no matter who wins they will be indebted to the money men not to the people of the US.
     
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    Granny say he so out onna fringe, his momma can make doilies of his speeches...
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    The Ron Paul effect: How he is altering Republican primary calculus
    January 6, 2012 - Ron Paul can no longer be dismissed as 'fringe' by establishment Republicans. He has the staying power to bring his message to the masses – and transform the Republican conversation.
     
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    Proving your ignorance and stupidity with every post.
    If Romney gets enough delegates for the nomination then it doesn't matter how many anyone else gets. Hillary had the second most last time and her contribution was nil.

    The Paul-bots just can't let go, can they? Next thing will be them screaming they were betrayed by the country.
     
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    Iowa outsourced their voting system?
     

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