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-=d=- said:...I'm counting the minutes until the bs comment is made:
"It's not about sex, it's about control (of the victim)"..
:vomit:
it IS about sex...about urges unrestrained.
musicman said:Absolutely, 100% right. Man, by his nature, is utterly depraved. If one would understand human nature, he needs only to observe a small child. It's all about "what feels good, what tastes good, and what's going to make me happy in the next thirty seconds of my life". Some human beings manage, eventually, to triumph over their essential nature. We used to call it, "growing up".
-=d=- said:Part of the problem imo, is the likes of Dr. Spock and his 'don't make a child unhappy' bullcrap. Our society lives, breathes, and worships Hedonism.
:-/
If something FEELS good, it by default IS good.
musicman said:And, conversely - if something makes you feel bad (e.g., guilty or ashamed), it is, by definition, bad. To hell with learning and the (sometimes painful) opportunity for growth. You don't need it. You are, after all, perfect. You are the center of the universe.
-=d=- said:Exactly.
-=d=- said:making up my own quotes?? wha?
Because I could show numbers telling you the sky was blue, but you'd find a way to argue the sky is purple.
MissileMan said:Well, the horse is almost dead, but I'm going to make my point one last time.
Let's leave the lesbians out of the picture all together as their contribution to the molestation rate is negligible. Approximately 2.8% of the U.S. population are homosexual males. Approximately 45% of the U.S. population are heterosexual males. That comes out to 1 homosexual male for every 15 heterosexual males.
Since studies have shown that any one homosexual pedophile will create as many as 7 times more victims than any one heterosexual pedophile, when you crunch the numbers it proves that even though homosexual pedophiles commit 25-40% of the molestations, the actual percentage of pedophiles among homosexuals is no greater than than the percentage of pedophiles among heterosexuals. Based on the 25-40%, for example, homosexual molestations would account for 2-3 out of 8, or 4-6 out of 16, or 5-8(1 homosexual pedophiles worth) out of 20. That gives you a ratio of 1 homosexual pedophile for over 13 heterosexual pedophiles. That is amazingly close to the population ratio and would give rise to the conclusion that a certain percentage of males are going to be pedophiles, whether they are homosexual or not.
I am disturbed and have no theory as to why there is a significant disparity in the voracity of homosexual pedophiles. But it still doesn't change the fact that the premise of the original post was wrong. The boy was molested by a pedophile.
I believe I already had. :read:archangel said:give it a rest
-=d=- said:
mattskramer said:We should avoid linking sex crimes with sexual orientation.
Gem said:Bully, you can take issue with much of what was said here. I know I do. But please do not fall back on ludicrous talking points and stupid liberal "gotcha" games.
The whole "ooh, you said something even remotely negative about homosexuality...did you know that that means you're a closet homosexual and possibley even a future pedophile yourself??? oooh...gotcha!!!" line is tired and pointless.
There are real arguments and discussions to be had about this topic...falling back on bullshit just demonstrates that you don't have anything real to add...so why bother?