The winner of the 2024 Election may very well oversee WWIII

Of course you're not.

Because the "political class" built the most successful civilization on the planet. I can't understand why people think those who came before were failures.

As I just demonstrated, the actual impact your blob had was the footprint of an ant and certainly not worth the strained relations he was solely responsible for.
You are living in the past with no concern for the future, the U.S has $34T in debt now. This is not sustainable. Imaghine America had to borrow from Russia in the 70s and 80s? Well, you have to borrow from China in 2024.
 
You are living in the past with no concern for the future, the U.S has $34T in debt now. This is not sustainable. Imaghine America had to borrow from Russia in the 70s and 80s? Well, you have to borrow from China in 2024.

So you're concerned about the national debt. I see.

Well, your remedy to fix things is to re-elect the blob who is singularly responsible for authorizing a full quarter of that debt. Care to explain? This should be good.
 
So you're concerned about the national debt. I see.

Well, your remedy to fix things is to re-elect the blob who is singularly responsible for authorizing a full quarter of that debt. Care to explain? This should be good.
Covid was a major part of this debt. At least Trump.tried when he sbut down the government for weeks, it was pressure from his Party which forced him to capitulate and weak Paul Ryan convinced him to not take the border deal.
 
Covid was a major part of this debt. At least Trump.tried when he sbut down the government for weeks, it was pressure from his Party which forced him to capitulate and weak Paul Ryan convinced him to not take the border deal.

So you're admitting he was basically completely ineffective and he caved into pressure and was the bitch of his own party.

And you think its going to be different this time around when he can't run for re-election in four years?

Thanks for confirming he was a complete failure.

Tbis is why he was elected!. Results!
:auiqs.jpg: You just blew apart your own silly argument.
 
So you're admitting he was basically completely ineffective and he caved into pressure and was the bitch of his own party.

And you think its going to be different this time around when he can't run for re-election in four years?

Thanks for confirming he was a complete failure.


:auiqs.jpg: You just blew apart your own silly argument.
You are too partisan to be engaged in such discussioins. America needs to succeed but you fail to understand why or how this can be accomplished. Here is a hint, it won't be through a permanent Political Class and their media driven cheerleaders.
 
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I don't know what the range is, 25-40% chance perhaps? It is certainly frighteningly closer than in any time I can think of just due to America being more at parity with nations such as China than in history and they are emboldened I am guessing if Biden and his admin are in power the chances are higher than if Trump and his admin win. This is for a number of reasons, not least of which foreign adversaries fear the GOP War hawks more and.Trump.generally keeps enemies on their back heels Trump will have to accept that he may have to employ U.S troops and lead NATO if he wins, this is the reality of the world now,.it isn't 2016.
I think: Zelensky, now that he is financially all set for life on American tax dollars, will make terms with Russia....which is always what Putin wanted anyway.

There was no indication that Putin wanted to conquer Ukraine...he wanted assurance that broken promises would be reconstituted.

The total destruction of that nation was not for the benefit of Ukraine it was for the benefit of the war mongering politicians who profit from war. Most of those right here in DC.

Israel will complete its extermination of Hamas and rebuild Gaza under a more coalition friendly government.

Taiwan will unavoidably bow to Beijing....there's nothing anyone can do to stop this.

Next five years

Jo
 
I think: Zelensky, now that he is financially all set for life on American tax dollars, will make terms with Russia....which is always what Putin wanted anyway.

There was no indication that Putin wanted to conquer Ukraine...he wanted assurance that broken promises would be reconstituted.

The total destruction of that nation was not for the benefit of Ukraine it was for the benefit of the war mongering politicians who profit from war. Most of those right here in DC.

Israel will complete its extermination of Hamas and rebuild Gaza under a more coalition friendly government.

Taiwan will unavoidably bow to Beijing....there's nothing anyone can do to stop this.

Next five years

Jo
Oh, Putin had every intention of grabbing Ukraine (and more). He telegraphed this in 2014 when he took Crimea. He is smart enough to always attack under Democrat administrations and China will do the same I presume.
 
Oh, Putin had every intention of grabbing Ukraine (and more). He telegraphed this in 2014 when he took Crimea. He is smart enough to always attack under Democrat administrations and China will do the same I presume.
I'm no fan of Putin....he's a monster for sure. But it's important to look at what NATO did in the run up.

The pressure was to block Russian access to the black sea port for their Navy. Putin responded accordingly.....granted he may have wanted to do it.

With Ukraine I do not believe he would have invaded with a promise for Ukraine to stop persecuting Russian nationals and to keep NATO out.

I may be wrong....

Jo
 
I'm no fan of Putin....he's a monster for sure. But it's important to look at what NATO did in the run up.

The pressure was to block Russian access to the black sea port for their Navy. Putin responded accordingly.....granted he may have wanted to do it.

With Ukraine I do not believe he would have invaded with a promise for Ukraine to stop persecuting Russian nationals and to keep NATO out.

I may be wrong....

Jo
Well he just needed an excuse. You can be sure China approved as they saw an opportunity to keep the West engaged elsewhere, ditto for Iran and their funding of problems in the M.E. They don't want America to go to full out war against their proxies such as Iran as they have a friendly government installed there, but they want Americas attention elsewhere just in case they need to move on Taiwan or Pacific islands. Every nation is getting what they want, fhe smartest nation sits back and lets everyone else beat the hell out of each other and spend resources. What a damned species we are.
 
Well he just needed an excuse. You can be sure China approved as they saw an opportunity to keep the West engaged elsewhere, ditto for Iran and their funding of problems in the M.E. They don't want America to go to full out war against their proxies such as Iran as they have a friendly government installed there, but they want Americas attention elsewhere just in case they need to move on Taiwan or Pacific islands. Every nation is getting what they want, fhe smartest nation sits back and lets everyone else beat the hell out of each other and spend resources. What a damned species we are.
Agreed
 
You are too partisan to be engaged in such discussioins. America needs to succeed but you fail to understand why or how this can be accomplished. Here is a hint, it won't be through a permanent Political Class and their media driven cheerleaders.

Yeah, the "political class" only built the greatest civilization ever.

Your remedy is to rely on a guy who has been accused of 91 felonies, spent $8T more than he took in, fucked a porn star, and, as weird as it sounds, is 10X more sleazy than all of the facts I just posted about him. And, oh yeah, he had his chance already and, as you have already testified, was an abysmal failure.
 
Yeah, the "political class" only built the greatest civilization ever.

Your remedy is to rely on a guy who has been accused of 91 felonies, spent $8T more than he took in, fucked a porn star, and, as weird as it sounds, is 10X more sleazy than all of the facts I just posted about him. And, oh yeah, he had his chance already and, as you have already testified, was an abysmal failure.
The greatest civilization ever is in serious jeopardy. Your blind loyalty to bad policies is the problem. Trumps legal problem are minor compared to bad policies that hurt the U.S. Wake up, you don't need to hang out with Trump, you just need proper decisioin makers and a strong,.high performing admiistration based on merit. You don't cut off your nose to spite your face. America shouldn't need an outsider like Trump to get things done and enact common sense policies, yet, here we are.
 
The greatest civilization ever is in serious jeopardy.
So you say.
Your blind loyalty to bad policies is the problem.
Your blind loyalty to a sexual abuser who was indicted 91 times is not a problem?
Trumps legal problem are minor compared to bad policies that hurt the U.S.
Yeah like when he personally ran up $8T in new debt.
Wake up, you don't need to hang out with Trump, you just need proper decisioin makers and a strong,.high performing admiistration based on merit.
He hired the best people...then fired every one of them. Tell me again about his decision making please.
You don't cut off your nose to spite your face. America shouldn't need an outsider like Trump to get things done and enact common sense policies, yet, here we are.
Your blob didn't get shit done.
 
So you say.

Your blind loyalty to a sexual abuser who was indicted 91 times is not a problem?

Yeah like when he personally ran up $8T in new debt.

He hired the best people...then fired every one of them. Tell me again about his decision making please.

Your blob didn't get shit done.
He isn't my blob he was the president as elected by YOUR citizens. For all of his flaws, and they are many; his detractors seem to.avoid the question, "why was he able to defeat so many politicians if THEIr policies were so popular"? If Biden is doing such a great job, Trump wouldn't be a threat, but yet, from the recruitment of Taylor Swift (huh?) To SNL promoting Trumps opponents, Dems voting for Haley in primaries, lawsuits and efforts to remove him from the ballot it seems some fear him for being popular with Americans. Don't blame him for his popularity, blame.the political class and their policies which you defend who are driving citizens into his arms. The lack of self awareness after so many years is staggering.
 
He isn't my blob he was the president as elected by YOUR citizens.
Thanks for the chuckle. You worship Mara Lard Ass.
For all of his flaws, and they are many; his detractors seem to.avoid the question, "why was he able to defeat so many politicians if THEIr policies were so popular"?
Because he's funny and amusing and he legitimizes the latent racism and hatred of his supporters.
If Biden is doing such a great job, Trump wouldn't be a threat, but yet, from the recruitment of Taylor Swift (huh?)
Ahh...a conspiracy theory. That is all you have.
To SNL promoting Trumps opponents, Dems voting for Haley in primaries, lawsuits and efforts to remove him from the ballot it seems some fear him for being popular with Americans.
Those are individual states and they run their own elections. Biden has nothing to do with that.
Don't blame him for his popularity, blame.the political class and their policies which you defend who are driving citizens into his arms. The lack of self awareness after so many years is staggering.
He got 3M fewer votes than Hillary and 8M fewer than Biden. His arms are empty--unless he's eating fried chicken.
 
Thanks for the chuckle. You worship Mara Lard Ass.

Because he's funny and amusing and he legitimizes the latent racism and hatred of his supporters.

Ahh...a conspiracy theory. That is all you have.

Those are individual states and they run their own elections. Biden has nothing to do with that.

He got 3M fewer votes than Hillary and 8M fewer than Biden. His arms are empty--unless he's eating fried chicken.
I worship no one, I just don't get into the game of personalities and parties and instead focus on policies.

If a policy is bad for America, I don't support it. If it is good, I do.

Maybe you should do the same and speak freely. You speak in Groupthink as if you are held hostage of something.
 
I worship no one,
Again, thanks for the chuckle.
I just don't get into the game of personalities and parties and instead focus on policies.
LOL...
If a policy is bad for America, I don't support it. If it is good, I do.
If Trump is for it; you’re for it. IF he’s not, you’re against it.

Please point to any policy that he had you were against.
Maybe you should do the same and speak freely. You speak in Groupthink as if you are held hostage of something.
Maybe you should read what I’ve written and stop being a lazy bucket of shit.
 
Funny how Canadians automatically assume that the U.S. will save their sorry Canuk asses if the SOS hits the fan. You almost have to laugh that Canadians claim to fear nuclear war only after the 2024 election but they don't seem concerned that we have a doddering fool with his trembling thumb on the nuclear button today.
 
You are living in the past with no concern for the future, the U.S has $34T in debt now. This is not sustainable. Imaghine America had to borrow from Russia in the 70s and 80s? Well, you have to borrow from China in 2024.

IIRC more American debt is owned by the British than the Chinese
 

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