The West´s silly Ukrainian ISIS Nazi Army

[irosie91]

It is a mistake to underestimate the filth and stench of ISLAM in the UKRAINE----in fact, CRIMEA is the epicenter of that filth -----the element stabbing the eastern orthodox and catholic Ukraine in the back.

Actually I wouldn’t say that Islam has a strong influence in Ukraine (so far, at the very least).

In Crimea the Islamic population isn’t too high so far – 12 per cent of the whole population of Crimea or so. But in the future the Crimean Tatars’ issue may be raised at the top of the agenda and there is no guarantee that this issue will have a peaceful form. Such an issue would be raised even if Crimea remained part of Ukraine. And there is one of the reasons why I grateful to Putin for the annexation.

thanks Esay------mostly, I was pulling Freddie's chain regarding his world view.
......... I will not elaborate at this point

 

[Sbiker]

Everybody in Russia knows that Russia supports donbass. Of course by sending military peope and ammo there. What's the point to accuse Russia in that? Why Russia shouldn't do it? NATO is a threat to russian security system, Ukraine wants to be the provider of this threats, so Russia absolutely legitible should act aggresivily in response to ukrainian threats, because if Ukraine goes to NATO, it will be late to hit.

Second, Russia doesn't want Donbass to be independent or even part of it, because the main thing is to prevent Ukraine to be part of NATO, so Russia needs a handle to rule the neighbor country. And this handle is Donbass, which is to have its representatives in ukrainian state government system. That's the motives of Russian Federation and after negotioations in Minsk the only thing that needs Russia is to have them implemented, which means peace, not war.

Europe needs it too, USA and Ukraine want war and actively prepare to it.

All countries sign treaties and make promises to follow certain rules. If they did not there would be more difficulties and wars than we already have. When countries break rules and cause wars, the world responds. Russia has broken international laws and broken promises to follow specific rules. Sanctions are being used to punish and convince Russia to stop breaking these agreements and rules. Internationally recognized nation of Ukraine is receiving aid from other countries to protect it's independence. If Russian weapons and troops were not crossing the border their would be no sanctions or aid. Those are the rules. The west is following rules and Russia is breaking them. If everyone behaved like Russia their would be wars everywhere.

Hm, what is the point following the rules, if this rules injure your country and could lead people to death or loosing their freedom? If western world with Ukraine wants Russia to follow such rules of course it will be war.

Russia had great international power. The boss decided he wanted to be a big shot old style Soviet type leader instead of a statesman and diplomat. He was left in control like some kind of lifetime dictator and his ego got to big. Now Russia has to pay for foolish decisions he has made.

I have some questions...

A first, which international laws Russia violate? We just provided to the Crimea the way of Kosovo.... There's only two violators of law - Ukraine with anti-nazi law and EU with sanctions, proved, I think, only of hard corruption

If Russia plays an "old Soviet Style", why it has army budget, 10x less than American? Why do you fear the Russian army? It's just paranoia, or you really know, America trying to do something bypassing international laws?

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway

 

[Stratford57]

QUOTE="Sbiker, post: 11650040, member: 54793"] [QUOTE ="Igrok_, post: 11642321, member: 52156"]

Everybody in Russia knows that Russia supports donbass. Of course by sending military peope and ammo there. What's the point to accuse Russia in that? Why Russia shouldn't do it? NATO is a threat to russian security system, Ukraine wants to be the provider of this threats, so Russia absolutely legitible should act aggresivily in response to ukrainian threats, because if Ukraine goes to NATO, it will be late to hit.

Second, Russia doesn't want Donbass to be independent or even part of it, because the main thing is to prevent Ukraine to be part of NATO, so Russia needs a handle to rule the neighbor country. And this handle is Donbass, which is to have its representatives in ukrainian state government system. That's the motives of Russian Federation and after negotioations in Minsk the only thing that needs Russia is to have them implemented, which means peace, not war.

Europe needs it too, USA and Ukraine want war and actively prepare to it.

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway [/QUOTE]


This is a map of Ukraine, red piece on the right is all Donbass (the territory which voted for separating from Ukraine last year) and only half of it is controlled by rebels (the other half is controlled by Ukrainians and it's been like that for a year, 3 million residents in the red spot versus 40 million residents in the other part of Ukraine). If Russian troops were there in Donbass, why do you all think they would not move deeper inside the country? May be because Ukrainian army is so strong and brave?

Here's what NATO ex-general Kujat said:

• It's lot of speculation. Proof of Russia's involvement with regular force has not come to my attention so far.

• For example, the announcement of the Ukrainian President that 23 Russian armed have been destroyed on Ukrainian soil. There are no photos of surviving Russian soldiers nor of killed Russian soldiers.

• We have been shown five pictures as a proof that Russian Forces are in the Ukraine. Three of them were marked officially as "on Russian territory". Two of them are marked as "on Ukraine territory". The Russian pictures are marked with the exact location, while the Ukrainian ones have no mention of location and coordinates.

• We have to be very careful about what the Ukraine and the West says.

Choose any link you want:

Ex-general NATO has failed blatantly in Ukraine Europe DW.COM 03.09.2014
Top German General Western Evidence of Russian Invasion is Baloney
(video)

German media backs confrontation with Russia over Ukraine - World Socialist Web Site

 

[ESay]

I have some questions...

A first, which international laws Russia violate? We just provided to the Crimea the way of Kosovo.... There's only two violators of law - Ukraine with anti-nazi law and EU with sanctions, proved, I think, only of hard corruption

If Russia plays an "old Soviet Style", why it has army budget, 10x less than American? Why do you fear the Russian army? It's just paranoia, or you really know, America trying to do something bypassing international laws?

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway

Again this stuff about Russian troops in Ukraine. It is boring.
Actually you in Russia can think whatever you want. There are no Russian servicemen in Donbass? Okay, if you say so. It is possible that Erofeev and Alexandrov just got lost. They were landed in a range somewhere in Rostov region and they received an order to go to another range eastward using a super-duper navigation system called Glonass. And it is quite predictable that they found themselves in Ukraine, which is situated to the west of Rostov.

You think that you didn’t violate any law? Okay, maybe you are right. Some others think otherwise. Your action triggered counteraction; it is quite possible to say otherwise – somebody else's action triggered your counteraction. But the result is that that we are all seeing now – tensions between the West and Russia. Who will be a winner of this conflict? Obviously, that side which is economically and technologically stronger that the other, which has greater international influence. And even if Russia were thousand times right, it would change nothing. No one gives a shit about it. The history is written by victors.

 

[Sbiker]

I have some questions...

A first, which international laws Russia violate? We just provided to the Crimea the way of Kosovo.... There's only two violators of law - Ukraine with anti-nazi law and EU with sanctions, proved, I think, only of hard corruption

If Russia plays an "old Soviet Style", why it has army budget, 10x less than American? Why do you fear the Russian army? It's just paranoia, or you really know, America trying to do something bypassing international laws?

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway

Again this stuff about Russian troops in Ukraine. It is boring.
Actually you in Russia can think whatever you want. There are no Russian servicemen in Donbass? Okay, if you say so. It is possible that Erofeev and Alexandrov just got lost. They were landed in a range somewhere in Rostov region and they received an order to go to another range eastward using a super-duper navigation system called Glonass. And it is quite predictable that they found themselves in Ukraine, which is situated to the west of Rostov.

You think that you didn’t violate any law? Okay, maybe you are right. Some others think otherwise. Your action triggered counteraction; it is quite possible to say otherwise – somebody else's action triggered your counteraction. But the result is that that we are all seeing now – tensions between the West and Russia. Who will be a winner of this conflict? Obviously, that side which is economically and technologically stronger that the other, which has greater international influence. And even if Russia were thousand times right, it would change nothing. No one gives a shit about it. The history is written by victors.

You can think everything, but no one fascists escapes from Russia anywhere. Economics, politics, international laws - it can be changed or adopted. Except one thing - you took swastika as symbol, you claim Hitler's henchman as national hero, you became fascists - your fate now is short and full of sorrow... Nothing personal, just your personal choice

 

[Camp]

I have some questions...

A first, which international laws Russia violate? We just provided to the Crimea the way of Kosovo.... There's only two violators of law - Ukraine with anti-nazi law and EU with sanctions, proved, I think, only of hard corruption

If Russia plays an "old Soviet Style", why it has army budget, 10x less than American? Why do you fear the Russian army? It's just paranoia, or you really know, America trying to do something bypassing international laws?

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway

Again this stuff about Russian troops in Ukraine. It is boring.
Actually you in Russia can think whatever you want. There are no Russian servicemen in Donbass? Okay, if you say so. It is possible that Erofeev and Alexandrov just got lost. They were landed in a range somewhere in Rostov region and they received an order to go to another range eastward using a super-duper navigation system called Glonass. And it is quite predictable that they found themselves in Ukraine, which is situated to the west of Rostov.

You think that you didn’t violate any law? Okay, maybe you are right. Some others think otherwise. Your action triggered counteraction; it is quite possible to say otherwise – somebody else's action triggered your counteraction. But the result is that that we are all seeing now – tensions between the West and Russia. Who will be a winner of this conflict? Obviously, that side which is economically and technologically stronger that the other, which has greater international influence. And even if Russia were thousand times right, it would change nothing. No one gives a shit about it. The history is written by victors.

You can think everything, but no one fascists escapes from Russia anywhere. Economics, politics, international laws - it can be changed or adopted. Except one thing - you took swastika as symbol, you claim Hitler's henchman as national hero, you became fascists - your fate now is short and full of sorrow... Nothing personal, just your personal choice

Old propaganda. Elections in Ukraine rejected the right sector. They have strong militia's but most members are nationalist and care nothing about nazi ideology. Funny, you criticize Ukrainians for celebrating the citizens of Ukraine who joined with Germans to fight Soviet occupiers. It is a reminder of how long Ukraine has fought against Russian invasions occupation and rule in Ukraine.
You should worry about neo nazi's in Russia. Some of them have been invaders into Ukraine.

crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ru%7Dnaz.html#int

Believe what you want. Here is a video of right sector volunteers explaining why they join right sector militia to fight Russian invaders.

youtube.com/watch?v=adhA_JSvO1M

 

[Sbiker]

I have some questions...

A first, which international laws Russia violate? We just provided to the Crimea the way of Kosovo.... There's only two violators of law - Ukraine with anti-nazi law and EU with sanctions, proved, I think, only of hard corruption

If Russia plays an "old Soviet Style", why it has army budget, 10x less than American? Why do you fear the Russian army? It's just paranoia, or you really know, America trying to do something bypassing international laws?

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway

Again this stuff about Russian troops in Ukraine. It is boring.
Actually you in Russia can think whatever you want. There are no Russian servicemen in Donbass? Okay, if you say so. It is possible that Erofeev and Alexandrov just got lost. They were landed in a range somewhere in Rostov region and they received an order to go to another range eastward using a super-duper navigation system called Glonass. And it is quite predictable that they found themselves in Ukraine, which is situated to the west of Rostov.

You think that you didn’t violate any law? Okay, maybe you are right. Some others think otherwise. Your action triggered counteraction; it is quite possible to say otherwise – somebody else's action triggered your counteraction. But the result is that that we are all seeing now – tensions between the West and Russia. Who will be a winner of this conflict? Obviously, that side which is economically and technologically stronger that the other, which has greater international influence. And even if Russia were thousand times right, it would change nothing. No one gives a shit about it. The history is written by victors.

You can think everything, but no one fascists escapes from Russia anywhere. Economics, politics, international laws - it can be changed or adopted. Except one thing - you took swastika as symbol, you claim Hitler's henchman as national hero, you became fascists - your fate now is short and full of sorrow... Nothing personal, just your personal choice

Old propaganda. Elections in Ukraine rejected the right sector. They have strong militia's but most members are nationalist and care nothing about nazi ideology. Funny, you criticize Ukrainians for celebrating the citizens of Ukraine who joined with Germans to fight Soviet occupiers. It is a reminder of how long Ukraine has fought against Russian invasions occupation and rule in Ukraine.
You should worry about neo nazi's in Russia. Some of them have been invaders into Ukraine.

crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ru%7Dnaz.html#int

Believe what you want. Here is a video of right sector volunteers explaining why they join right sector militia to fight Russian invaders.

youtube.com/watch?v=adhA_JSvO1M

You know - it's not propaganda. It could be slow - to count all of swastika men, "right sector" and other fascist scums. It could be with or without international laws, EU, US or others... It's not principial. You can to propagate any lies, complaints, can be believeable to Americans or anyone... It's no significant. Russia don't play games with fascism. You took swastika - you've signed your sentence. Take it easy, eventually it was your choice

 

[Camp]

I have some questions...

A first, which international laws Russia violate? We just provided to the Crimea the way of Kosovo.... There's only two violators of law - Ukraine with anti-nazi law and EU with sanctions, proved, I think, only of hard corruption

If Russia plays an "old Soviet Style", why it has army budget, 10x less than American? Why do you fear the Russian army? It's just paranoia, or you really know, America trying to do something bypassing international laws?

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway

Again this stuff about Russian troops in Ukraine. It is boring.
Actually you in Russia can think whatever you want. There are no Russian servicemen in Donbass? Okay, if you say so. It is possible that Erofeev and Alexandrov just got lost. They were landed in a range somewhere in Rostov region and they received an order to go to another range eastward using a super-duper navigation system called Glonass. And it is quite predictable that they found themselves in Ukraine, which is situated to the west of Rostov.

You think that you didn’t violate any law? Okay, maybe you are right. Some others think otherwise. Your action triggered counteraction; it is quite possible to say otherwise – somebody else's action triggered your counteraction. But the result is that that we are all seeing now – tensions between the West and Russia. Who will be a winner of this conflict? Obviously, that side which is economically and technologically stronger that the other, which has greater international influence. And even if Russia were thousand times right, it would change nothing. No one gives a shit about it. The history is written by victors.

You can think everything, but no one fascists escapes from Russia anywhere. Economics, politics, international laws - it can be changed or adopted. Except one thing - you took swastika as symbol, you claim Hitler's henchman as national hero, you became fascists - your fate now is short and full of sorrow... Nothing personal, just your personal choice

Old propaganda. Elections in Ukraine rejected the right sector. They have strong militia's but most members are nationalist and care nothing about nazi ideology. Funny, you criticize Ukrainians for celebrating the citizens of Ukraine who joined with Germans to fight Soviet occupiers. It is a reminder of how long Ukraine has fought against Russian invasions occupation and rule in Ukraine.
You should worry about neo nazi's in Russia. Some of them have been invaders into Ukraine.

crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ru%7Dnaz.html#int

Believe what you want. Here is a video of right sector volunteers explaining why they join right sector militia to fight Russian invaders.

youtube.com/watch?v=adhA_JSvO1M

You know - it's not propaganda. It could be slow - to count all of swastika men, "right sector" and other fascist scums. It could be with or without international laws, EU, US or others... It's not principial. You can to propagate any lies, complaints, can be believeable to Americans or anyone... It's no significant. Russia don't play games with fascism. You took swastika - you've signed your sentence. Take it easy, eventually it was your choice

Do you know what means "hollow threats"?
For you to deny fascism in Russia is comical. Fascist are chasing down gay people in Russia to make violence against them.
Keep listening to your state propaganda and Dictator Putin. Make sure you have many potato bags and grain in storage under your bed and in your closet. Fill your shelves now while you can. Soon you will be like people left in Donetsk and surviving on canned mystery meat, lowest quality Tushunka, dried junk fish and whatever is left in the backs of the warehouses for Papa Putin to give you. Better have good gardens this season or make friends with people who do.

 

[Sbiker]

I have some questions...

A first, which international laws Russia violate? We just provided to the Crimea the way of Kosovo.... There's only two violators of law - Ukraine with anti-nazi law and EU with sanctions, proved, I think, only of hard corruption

If Russia plays an "old Soviet Style", why it has army budget, 10x less than American? Why do you fear the Russian army? It's just paranoia, or you really know, America trying to do something bypassing international laws?

You fear army, than "present in Ukraine" and cannot capture this small territory during the year? Wow, I understand - it's proved army from two brave men - Erofeev & Alexandrov... Such a big army - fear it anyway

Again this stuff about Russian troops in Ukraine. It is boring.
Actually you in Russia can think whatever you want. There are no Russian servicemen in Donbass? Okay, if you say so. It is possible that Erofeev and Alexandrov just got lost. They were landed in a range somewhere in Rostov region and they received an order to go to another range eastward using a super-duper navigation system called Glonass. And it is quite predictable that they found themselves in Ukraine, which is situated to the west of Rostov.

You think that you didn’t violate any law? Okay, maybe you are right. Some others think otherwise. Your action triggered counteraction; it is quite possible to say otherwise – somebody else's action triggered your counteraction. But the result is that that we are all seeing now – tensions between the West and Russia. Who will be a winner of this conflict? Obviously, that side which is economically and technologically stronger that the other, which has greater international influence. And even if Russia were thousand times right, it would change nothing. No one gives a shit about it. The history is written by victors.

You can think everything, but no one fascists escapes from Russia anywhere. Economics, politics, international laws - it can be changed or adopted. Except one thing - you took swastika as symbol, you claim Hitler's henchman as national hero, you became fascists - your fate now is short and full of sorrow... Nothing personal, just your personal choice

Old propaganda. Elections in Ukraine rejected the right sector. They have strong militia's but most members are nationalist and care nothing about nazi ideology. Funny, you criticize Ukrainians for celebrating the citizens of Ukraine who joined with Germans to fight Soviet occupiers. It is a reminder of how long Ukraine has fought against Russian invasions occupation and rule in Ukraine.
You should worry about neo nazi's in Russia. Some of them have been invaders into Ukraine.

crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ru%7Dnaz.html#int

Believe what you want. Here is a video of right sector volunteers explaining why they join right sector militia to fight Russian invaders.

youtube.com/watch?v=adhA_JSvO1M

You know - it's not propaganda. It could be slow - to count all of swastika men, "right sector" and other fascist scums. It could be with or without international laws, EU, US or others... It's not principial. You can to propagate any lies, complaints, can be believeable to Americans or anyone... It's no significant. Russia don't play games with fascism. You took swastika - you've signed your sentence. Take it easy, eventually it was your choice

Do you know what means "hollow threats"?
For you to deny fascism in Russia is comical. Fascist are chasing down gay people in Russia to make violence against them.
Keep listening to your state propaganda and Dictator Putin. Make sure you have many potato bags and grain in storage under your bed and in your closet. Fill your shelves now while you can. Soon you will be like people left in Donetsk and surviving on canned mystery meat, lowest quality Tushunka, dried junk fish and whatever is left in the backs of the warehouses for Papa Putin to give you. Better have good gardens this season or make friends with people who do.

How emotional!
As a gay people... If 5 gays want to _public_propagate_ their way of life, and 200 traditionalists don't want it - it' just a democracy... And real democracy is a good idea and would stay in Russia in spite of any sanctions, political games, world lobbies etc. But if you, West Ukrainians, can change any idea for the bag of potato or lower quality "Tushunka" - it's really only your problems... I really don't want to teach you how to live without complaints and handouts, just keep your poverty without our borders...

 

[ESay]

You can think everything, but no one fascists escapes from Russia anywhere.

Very funny, thanks. How much fascist has Russia put behind bars, let’s say, in the last twenty years?

you took swastika as symbol

Swastika as a symbol? I even won’t ask you where you got this bullshit. Though, as I wrote above, you in Russia can think everything you want.

Nothing personal, just your personal choice

Yeah, you are right. The more I read Russian patriots like you, the more I am convinced that there is no common future between my country and yours. Thank God there was the Euromaidan.

 

[Sbiker]

You can think everything, but no one fascists escapes from Russia anywhere.

Very funny, thanks. How much fascist has Russia put behind bars, let’s say, in the last twenty years?

you took swastika as symbol

Swastika as a symbol? I even won’t ask you where you got this bullshit. Though, as I wrote above, you in Russia can think everything you want.

Nothing personal, just your personal choice

Yeah, you are right. The more I read Russian patriots like you, the more I am convinced that there is no common future between my country and yours. Thank God there was the Euromaidan.

Good. Leave the Donbass alone and go wherever you want. Beg the tips from EU, not from Russia

 

[Camp]

In today's news the EU is ready to add six months to sanctions against Russia that were scheduled to be over in July if Putin showed cooperation and lived up to Minsk agreement and promises he made.

 

[ESay]

Good. Leave the Donbass alone and go wherever you want. Beg the tips from EU, not from Russia

We would leave Donbass alone with a great pleasure if we were sure that there would be no desire of rebels to go forward. Moreover, an example of Donbass being left alone will encourage ‘fighters of fascism’ in the other regions of Southern and Eastern Ukraine to create their own ‘people’s republics’. As you understand we can’t afford that – there situated the main industrial enterprises, power plants (including two nuclear ones; one of them – Zaporizhzhya NPP – is the largest nuclear power plant in Europe), access to the sea, etc.

 

[Stratford57]

Ukrainian "patriots" are very special: during WW2 when Hitler came to Western Ukraine, they welcomed him with bread and salt and were fighting on his side. For 24 years since the USSR has collapsed they have been celebrating their "independence" so grandiosely every year but have not achieved or created ANYTHING since that (though Yanukovich has built several good roads and new airports before Euro-2012; however the bran new airport in Donetsk has been already destroyed by Ukrainians' shelling last year). Now they are licking the feet of EU and USA, dreaming for being adopted by them. But in a couple of years when USA squeezes all the juice from them and abandons Ukraine (just like they left Iraq, Libya, Syria in ruins), whose feet do you think those Ukrainian "patriots" will be ready to lick and to beg for food and money? Something tells me: it will be their big sister Russia...

Their life and the life of all their artificially created country would be so much better if they followed one simple rule: "Don't bite the hand which feeds you."

 

[Sbiker]

But in a couple of years when USA squeezes all the juice

I think USA could not.. Look at their posts - greed of West Ukrainians is strongest, for the something good they will not only lick the foots of any... US hope to make some money by Ukraine's lethal weapon supply, but they can't imagine, how it will be. And it will be like with native Ukrainian weapon - they sold much of it to rebels. It was easy for Russia - not to supply rebels, just gave them some money... I think, about 90-95% of lethal american weapon would not be used in Donbass... Some of them would buy Russia for learning, much of them would emerge in ISIS and become a problem for US forces and civilians...

 

[Decus]

Corruption is at the heart of Russian society and most Russians wish this was not the case, but Russians endure because they are fatalistic.

The below link is a short book review by P.J. O'Rourke that really provides a flavour of what Russian life is like:

"In Russia, “corrupt” is not an adjective. Corrupt is a noun, a proper noun, the word for the name and nature of the place"

The Land of Magical Thinking Inside Putin s Russia World Affairs Journal

If you have the courage to read the article you will understand that nothing that Putin says can be trusted.

.

 

[ESay]

I think USA could not.. Look at their posts - greed of West Ukrainians is strongest, for the something good they will not only lick the foots of any... US hope to make some money by Ukraine's lethal weapon supply, but they can't imagine, how it will be. And it will be like with native Ukrainian weapon - they sold much of it to rebels. It was easy for Russia - not to supply rebels, just gave them some money... I think, about 90-95% of lethal american weapon would not be used in Donbass... Some of them would buy Russia for learning, much of them would emerge in ISIS and become a problem for US forces and civilians...

I strongly recommend you to sell your conclusions to the Americans and your government.

Of course, the Americans are so stupid that they don’t understand anything. If somebody tells you otherwise, tell them ‘go to hell’ and give them something with Mikhail Zadornov to listen to. So, when you tell the Americans about Russia buying their weapons through Ukraine and about ISIS getting the weapons also through Ukraine, they will realise that in Kiev there are only Nazis, get to support DNR and LNR, and begin to slick Russia’s feet to get its forgiveness for all their mistakes. And after they see the light, they give you many thanks for deterring from making their gravest mistake throughout all their history.

Except of this you should inform your government. How it is possible that they haven’t guessed about that themselves? Why they strongly oppose delivering of American weapons to Ukraine?! They are idiots? They should encourage the Americans to do so and to see how they will screw up again! Your government will be grateful to you and even may award you some medal.

Good luck!

 

[Sbiker]

Corruption is at the heart of Russian society and most Russians wish this was not the case, but Russians endure because they are fatalistic.

The below link is a short book review by P.J. O'Rourke that really provides a flavour of what Russian life is like:

"In Russia, “corrupt” is not an adjective. Corrupt is a noun, a proper noun, the word for the name and nature of the place"

The Land of Magical Thinking Inside Putin s Russia World Affairs Journal

If you have the courage to read the article you will understand that nothing that Putin says can be trusted.

.

Such an awesome country. Why it isn't reality? Where the people, giving bribes for me? Why I'm not rich, as can be, if the world from review is true?

Btw, word "corrupt" in Russia not only a noun. It also combine by itself about ten variants of legal or half-legal lobby, business tricks and so on, which have different terms in EU languages. For the Russian all of them - corruption, which never could be

 

[ESay]

Where the people, giving bribes for me? Why I'm not rich, as can be, if the world from review is true?

The only reason – you aren’t worth any bribe.

 

[Sbiker]

I think USA could not.. Look at their posts - greed of West Ukrainians is strongest, for the something good they will not only lick the foots of any... US hope to make some money by Ukraine's lethal weapon supply, but they can't imagine, how it will be. And it will be like with native Ukrainian weapon - they sold much of it to rebels. It was easy for Russia - not to supply rebels, just gave them some money... I think, about 90-95% of lethal american weapon would not be used in Donbass... Some of them would buy Russia for learning, much of them would emerge in ISIS and become a problem for US forces and civilians...

I strongly recommend you to sell your conclusions to the Americans and your government.

Of course, the Americans are so stupid that they don’t understand anything. If somebody tells you otherwise, tell them ‘go to hell’ and give them something with Mikhail Zadornov to listen to. So, when you tell the Americans about Russia buying their weapons through Ukraine and about ISIS getting the weapons also through Ukraine, they will realise that in Kiev there are only Nazis, get to support DNR and LNR, and begin to slick Russia’s feet to get its forgiveness for all their mistakes. And after they see the light, they give you many thanks for deterring from making their gravest mistake throughout all their history.

Except of this you should inform your government. How it is possible that they haven’t guessed about that themselves? Why they strongly oppose delivering of American weapons to Ukraine?! They are idiots? They should encourage the Americans to do so and to see how they will screw up again! Your government will be grateful to you and even may award you some medal.

Good luck!

So many words... If you, ukrainians, are so smart - where's your aircraft carrier, which you inherited from USSR? Good example, how do you use all of your weapon...

Why my government oppose to delivering weapon on Ukraine? Because it really knows, where this weapon would be after some months...