The Two-State Delusion,’ by Padraig O’Malley

[P F Tinmore]

When one of the board's more excitable Joooooooo haters prefaces a long, tedious cut and paste with "Every one knows.....", I fully expect a steaming pant load.

And as if not to disappoint, that is precisely what Pbel delivered. The link he provided did not in any way support his conclusions. Surprised?

Every one knows that Israel is a country full of connivers who have friends who own the Mass Media, the New York Times is no exception...

The truth be known about a brutal Israeli occupation where even trees are an enemy!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/23/books/review/the-two-state-delusion-by-padraig-omalley.html?_r=0

Not surprisingly, neither the review you linked of O'Malley's book nor the book itself supports your conclusion. How do you explain your 2+2=5 logic?
Instead, as the review notes, O'Malley writes: “Israeli Jews have a right to question whether a free-standing Palestinian state with an ‘end of claims’ agreement is not the end of the conflict but the beginning of Palestinian preparation for the next phase of ‘liberating’ all of Palestine and that given Hamas's position the Israelis "are perfectly justified in hesitating before embracing a two-state solution.”
O'Malley, who claims to have done "a tremendous amount of research," offers no alternative to what he calls the "two-state delusion" because the bi-national option is no option at all. In other words, the two-state solution or the current situation seem the only possibilities. Which do you prefer?

Of course Israel should be concerned that a real peace means no attack from the Palestinians who have no army...What is your fear O Sniffer, a camel charge?

You are indeed a moron!

Did your comrades have an army when they attacked the US on 9/11/2001? Did they use a "camel charge," Idiot?

There were no Palestinians involved in 9/11 you braying JackAss! But there were five dancing Israelis! Were they related to you?

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

 

[Hollie]

And as if not to disappoint, that is precisely what Pbel delivered. The link he provided did not in any way support his conclusions. Surprised?

Not surprisingly, neither the review you linked of O'Malley's book nor the book itself supports your conclusion. How do you explain your 2+2=5 logic?
Instead, as the review notes, O'Malley writes: “Israeli Jews have a right to question whether a free-standing Palestinian state with an ‘end of claims’ agreement is not the end of the conflict but the beginning of Palestinian preparation for the next phase of ‘liberating’ all of Palestine and that given Hamas's position the Israelis "are perfectly justified in hesitating before embracing a two-state solution.”
O'Malley, who claims to have done "a tremendous amount of research," offers no alternative to what he calls the "two-state delusion" because the bi-national option is no option at all. In other words, the two-state solution or the current situation seem the only possibilities. Which do you prefer?

Of course Israel should be concerned that a real peace means no attack from the Palestinians who have no army...What is your fear O Sniffer, a camel charge?

You are indeed a moron!

Did your comrades have an army when they attacked the US on 9/11/2001? Did they use a "camel charge," Idiot?

There were no Palestinians involved in 9/11 you braying JackAss! But there were five dancing Israelis! Were they related to you?

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Of course Israel should be concerned that a real peace means no attack from the Palestinians who have no army...What is your fear O Sniffer, a camel charge?

You are indeed a moron!

Did your comrades have an army when they attacked the US on 9/11/2001? Did they use a "camel charge," Idiot?

There were no Palestinians involved in 9/11 you braying JackAss! But there were five dancing Israelis! Were they related to you?

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

 

[Hollie]

Did your comrades have an army when they attacked the US on 9/11/2001? Did they use a "camel charge," Idiot?

There were no Palestinians involved in 9/11 you braying JackAss! But there were five dancing Israelis! Were they related to you?

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There were no Palestinians involved in 9/11 you braying JackAss! But there were five dancing Israelis! Were they related to you?

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

 

[Hollie]

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

 

[SAYIT]

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Comfortable? He seems damned proud of it!

 

[theliq]

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Comfortable? He seems damned proud of it!

Talk sense Say,when there was Peace available....You ZIONIST TRASH,Assassinated your own Prime Minister,the fine Jew,Mr Rabin.

You delude yourselves(Zionist Possee) that's why the world are unable to trust Israel and more countries SUPPORT PALESTINIANS OVER ISRAEL......you as a nation are Morally Bankrupt.......So know your place and it ain't good,infact it is BAD,BAD,BAD.steve

 

[P F Tinmore]

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Do you come here just to fling poo and call names.

 

[SAYIT]

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Comfortable? He seems damned proud of it!

Talk sense Say,when there was Peace available....You ZIONIST TRASH,Assassinated your own Prime Minister,the fine Jew,Mr Rabin.

You delude yourselves(Zionist Possee) that's why the world are unable to trust Israel and more countries SUPPORT PALESTINIANS OVER ISRAEL......you as a nation are Morally Bankrupt.......So know your place and it ain't good,infact it is BAD,BAD,BAD.steve

So who says peace was available? You? If your Pali comrades have proven nothing else - and they've pretty much proven nothing else - it's that they will accept no peace at any price. From the Hamas Covenant 1988:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it..."

"Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement."

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

 

[theliq]

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Comfortable? He seems damned proud of it!

Talk sense Say,when there was Peace available....You ZIONIST TRASH,Assassinated your own Prime Minister,the fine Jew,Mr Rabin.

You delude yourselves(Zionist Possee) that's why the world are unable to trust Israel and more countries SUPPORT PALESTINIANS OVER ISRAEL......you as a nation are Morally Bankrupt.......So know your place and it ain't good,infact it is BAD,BAD,BAD.steve

So who says peace was available? You? If your Pali comrades have proven nothing else - and they've pretty much proven nothing else - it's that they will accept no peace at any price. From the Hamas Covenant 1988:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it..."

"Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement."

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Well I do not appreciate Hamas's Covenant at all...you must remember the Palestinian people are more than just Hamas(that organization both Israel and the US created in the first place).

Say, I trust you and the family are well...steve.....haven't seen you for a while.

 

[SAYIT]

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Comfortable? He seems damned proud of it!

Talk sense Say,when there was Peace available....You ZIONIST TRASH,Assassinated your own Prime Minister,the fine Jew,Mr Rabin.

You delude yourselves(Zionist Possee) that's why the world are unable to trust Israel and more countries SUPPORT PALESTINIANS OVER ISRAEL......you as a nation are Morally Bankrupt.......So know your place and it ain't good,infact it is BAD,BAD,BAD.steve

So who says peace was available? You? If your Pali comrades have proven nothing else - and they've pretty much proven nothing else - it's that they will accept no peace at any price. From the Hamas Covenant 1988:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it..."

"Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement."

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Well I do not appreciate Hamas's Covenant at all...you must remember the Palestinian people are more than just Hamas(that organization both Israel and the US created in the first place).

Say, I trust you and the family are well...steve.....haven't seen you for a while.

It doesn't matter whether or not you approve of the Hamas Covenant. It is the mission statement of a terrorist organization that represents a large part of your Pali comrades and is indicative of their unabashed rejection of peace with Israel. So how could the assassination of Rabin have derailed a "peace process" that so many Palis reject out-of-hand?

 

[theliq]

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Comfortable? He seems damned proud of it!

Talk sense Say,when there was Peace available....You ZIONIST TRASH,Assassinated your own Prime Minister,the fine Jew,Mr Rabin.

You delude yourselves(Zionist Possee) that's why the world are unable to trust Israel and more countries SUPPORT PALESTINIANS OVER ISRAEL......you as a nation are Morally Bankrupt.......So know your place and it ain't good,infact it is BAD,BAD,BAD.steve

So who says peace was available? You? If your Pali comrades have proven nothing else - and they've pretty much proven nothing else - it's that they will accept no peace at any price. From the Hamas Covenant 1988:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it..."

"Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement."

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad."

Well I do not appreciate Hamas's Covenant at all...you must remember the Palestinian people are more than just Hamas(that organization both Israel and the US created in the first place).

Say, I trust you and the family are well...steve.....haven't seen you for a while.

It doesn't matter whether or not you approve of the Hamas Covenant. It is the mission statement of a terrorist organization that represents a large part of your Pali comrades and is indicative of their unabashed rejection of peace with Israel. So how could the assassination of Rabin have derailed a "peace process" that so many Palis reject out-of-hand?

Say, So many are nowhere near the majority,I still believe that most Israelis and Palestinians desire a lasting Peace.....I will note here that many Jews wish to eliminate the Palestinians and that is clearly their desire...........this schism is a two-way street...we need moderation ...on both sides..Liqvarmint

 

[Challenger]

"Hollow Hollie!"...I like it; accurate description.

It's a tactic, juvenile name-calling, not unlike your raising the flag of surrender when you're unable to defend your pointless arguments.

We defend our points with links and you insult with Israeli Right Wing Jingosims like "There never was a Palestine or people" like the empty Hollow person you are Hollie.

More of your juvenile name-calling.

Further, your "quote" is a fraud.

Let's recap, shall we? You're a name-caller and a fraud.

An achievement of some merit, I suppose.

Please re-post my fraudulent quote so that I might take a second look and ask the monitors to remove it.

Re-post you're own fraud.

That should be "your", "you're" means "you are". Happy to help.

 

[Challenger]

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

You're not comfortable with the history of failure and ineptitude by Pali terrorists.

Do you come here just to fling poo and call names.

You guessed it, "Hollow Hollie" in a nutshell...

It's a tactic, juvenile name-calling....

 

[Phoenall]

When one of the board's more excitable Joooooooo haters prefaces a long, tedious cut and paste with "Every one knows.....", I fully expect a steaming pant load.

Hollow name calling from Hollow Hollie...

"Hollow Hollie!"...I like it; accurate description.

It's a tactic, juvenile name-calling, not unlike your raising the flag of surrender when you're unable to defend your pointless arguments.

We defend our points with links and you insult with Israeli Right Wing Jingosims like "There never was a Palestine or people" like the empty Hollow person you are Hollie.

When have you ever provided a link that was unbiased and non partisan then, because I have never seen one. In fact many times you don't provide any links and just resort to childish insults and no comment replies.

 

[Phoenall]

Hollow name calling from Hollow Hollie...

"Hollow Hollie!"...I like it; accurate description.

It's a tactic, juvenile name-calling, not unlike your raising the flag of surrender when you're unable to defend your pointless arguments.

We defend our points with links and you insult with Israeli Right Wing Jingosims like "There never was a Palestine or people" like the empty Hollow person you are Hollie.

More of your juvenile name-calling.

Further, your "quote" is a fraud.

Let's recap, shall we? You're a name-caller and a fraud.

An achievement of some merit, I suppose.

Please re-post my fraudulent quote so that I might take a second look and ask the monitors to remove it.

Which one as you post that many every day

 

[Phoenall]

And as if not to disappoint, that is precisely what Pbel delivered. The link he provided did not in any way support his conclusions. Surprised?

Not surprisingly, neither the review you linked of O'Malley's book nor the book itself supports your conclusion. How do you explain your 2+2=5 logic?
Instead, as the review notes, O'Malley writes: “Israeli Jews have a right to question whether a free-standing Palestinian state with an ‘end of claims’ agreement is not the end of the conflict but the beginning of Palestinian preparation for the next phase of ‘liberating’ all of Palestine and that given Hamas's position the Israelis "are perfectly justified in hesitating before embracing a two-state solution.”
O'Malley, who claims to have done "a tremendous amount of research," offers no alternative to what he calls the "two-state delusion" because the bi-national option is no option at all. In other words, the two-state solution or the current situation seem the only possibilities. Which do you prefer?

Of course Israel should be concerned that a real peace means no attack from the Palestinians who have no army...What is your fear O Sniffer, a camel charge?

You are indeed a moron!

Did your comrades have an army when they attacked the US on 9/11/2001? Did they use a "camel charge," Idiot?

There were no Palestinians involved in 9/11 you braying JackAss! But there were five dancing Israelis! Were they related to you?

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

The evidence was overwhelming that it was done by A.Q. terrorists funded by bin laden and they used the plight of the Palestinians as one of the reasons. Only pro terrorist scum would even dare to say otherwise.

 

[Phoenall]

Did your comrades have an army when they attacked the US on 9/11/2001? Did they use a "camel charge," Idiot?

There were no Palestinians involved in 9/11 you braying JackAss! But there were five dancing Israelis! Were they related to you?

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Your word is not good enough, but the CIA/FBI have investigated and placed the blame on A.Q.

 

[Phoenall]

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America you lying S.O.S but there was plenty of joy throughout the Muslim Mideast. The point remains those (Muslims) eager to martyr themselves for your cause don't need an army and Israel is - as the author of your article notes - justified in taking the scummies at their word. BTW, the slimeball thought to be responsible for the 1996 Khobar Towers attack, Ahmed al-Mughassil, head of the military wing of Saudi Hezbollah and suspected of leading the attack that killed 19 U.S. service personnel and wounded almost 500 people, was arrested today.
Another of your comrades bites the dust.

There were no Israelis involved in the 9/11 Islamist attack on America​

Nobody knows who did it. There has never been an investigation to find the perpetrators.

There is a separate forum for conspiracy theories.

There is no theory about it. There has never been an investigation.

Back on track Tinny as a way to ignore your goofy conspiracy theories.

The reality of course is that the "Palestinian" arabs have no more interest in a negotiated two state solution today than at any other time in the 60 plus years since the state of Israel was reborn. The Arabs / Islamics would not accept a Jewish state alongside an even larger "Palestinian" state in the late 1930's as was offered by the British in the Peel Plan. The Arabs / Islamics refused an opportunity when two similarly-sized states were supported by the UN in 1947 and the Arabs / Islamics defaulted to a war of aggression that went horribly wrong for them. There were other opportunities refused by Arabs / Islamics in the U.S. at Camp David in 2000 and still again at Taba in 2001. (In these last two cases, the negotiation by Israel was to return all of Gaza and most all of the West Bank).

The real myth, obviously is that the Islamist Terrorist Palis' will ever have any interest in peace. Peace and secure borders have always been the Israeli goal: end the continuing Arab / Islamic terrorism, compromise on all the major issues, and finally put an end to the constant Islamic terrorist attacks. For the Pali terrorists, peace is not a goal. It is only a hudna so that the welfare cheaters can re-arm, but peace itself has no meaning to the Pali Death Cult. Their goal, as stated by the Islamic terrorists they put into political office is the end of Israel. In other words, one side of this conflict (Israel), wants to move forward absent an utterly hostile islamic menace at its border. The other side's goal (the Pali Death Cult),is for that never to happen.

The Pali Death Cutists believe their goal may be achieved through political or military capitulation by Israel, or through force at some point; another Arab -Moslem initiation of war. Although, in terms of the humiliating lossses the Arab losers have sufferd so far - that's not likely. But ultimately, Palestinian islamic terrorism and violence are always a part of the Islamic terrorist equation, designed and intended to ensure that Israelis can never let their guard down adjoining the Pali Death Cult.

You don't even know what the partition plan was.

Going on your many posts on the subject neither do you. But that is by the by as the arab muslims have constantly refused to abide by the UN charter since becoming members of the UN, so time to kick them out and stop the UNWRA hand outs.