The Truth About Climate Change

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    Global warming has become such a hotly debated issue that the country is polarized -- and most citizens get lost in the claims and counterclaims.

    Manufacturers fear that these dire warnings will lead to more government regulation and anti-government factions believe that there is a climate conspiracy where top scientists have been caught cooking their books, falsifying temperature data, and excluding colleagues who disagreed.

    Representative Michelle Bachman, whose Earth Day speech in 2009 was titled “An Ode to Carbon Dioxide,” made a claim that carbon dioxide levels are “a part of the regular cycle of the earth.” In pandering to her right-wing supporters it is easy for her to dismiss the problem because she won’t be around to see it happen.

    The Truth About Climate Change
     
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    Fact: Plant life required carbon dioxide to exist.

    Fact: Plants emit oxygen, required for humans to live.

    So, we do away with as much carbon dioxide as possible, killing (or at least weakening) plant life which return the favour by giving off less oxygen.

    Hey, presto! We all die and Earth goes on as it always has.
     
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    The longer they come, the dumber they get. Look, silly ass, the problem is that we have increased the atmospheric CO2 by 40%, and the CH4 by 150%.

    Normal range for CO2 for the last 2 million years, 180 ppm to 300 ppm. Today we are at 390 ppm. We have not been at that level in the last 15 million years. Plus the CH4 level is far higher than it has been for many million years.

    UCLA Researcher Finds CO2 at Highest Levels in 15 Million Years,  UCLA Climate Change Portal
     
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    So tell me, why are you so against plants getting ahead?

    If we're going to have oil and coal for Earth's next occupants we need lots and lots of plants and we need them NOW!

    Did you hate spinach (a plant) as a child? Broccoli? OK, poison ivy might give you legitimate reason.....
     
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    I could make a legit case for quashing arugula!
     
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    Admittedly, I'm one of those "most citizens" who is lost on the debate.

    I'm also one of those manufacturers who is quite concerned about the future of my business.

    What do I think? Even without this particular issue on the table, I believe the world's future is pretty much fucked.

    A burgeoning population, fanatical idiots controlling resources or impeding access to same, a self-perpetuating bureaucratic morass that does more harm than good, and an innate human quality characterized as "selfishness".

    We always have been, and will remain, our own worst enemies.

    And if that's not enough- I honestly believe that if Christ, Buddha, YHWH, Allah, Vishnu, or whomever/whatever... NEVER showed up - we'd be better off for it. Religion constitutes 3/4 of our miserable state of affairs.
     
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    Apparently another liberal idiot who isn't aware of the fact that life cannot exist at all on this planet without CARBON DIOXIDE! And clearly not aware of the carbon cycle and where carbon dioxide fits in that cycle. So in your haste to pretend Bachmann made some kind of major gaffe here -you only revealed your own IGNORANCE you moron. (And seriously, do you really figure if the word "truth" is in the title of your link it somehow means it IS "truth" and gives it greater credibility somehow? ROFLMAO)

    Aside from the fact life cannot exist at all on this planet without carbon dioxide, it is a critical part of the carbon cycle on this planet as it goes through our soil, water and air in in the form of various compounds, broken down and reformed to other compounds in order to continue that critically necessary cycle. There are not equal amounts in the soil, water and air and those levels change over time in accordance with that cycle -and because there aren't equal amounts in the soil, water and air -this cycle can be identified, traced and measured.

    9(r) The Carbon Cycle Very basic explanation of this cycle.

    For every link you can post (because you have a NEED for this theory to be believed and worshiped by all as the new religion) -I can find three that explain why yours is full of shit and nothing but flawed and falsified "science". You really should have gotten a big clue when you heard some of the major players in this scam posing as the leading scientists admitted to having destroyed their raw data. Not even going to mention the numerous admissions of having falsified their raw data -let's just focus on the destruction of raw data because this is actually a really, really big deal. BIG.

    There is only ONE reason to destroy the raw data. And every legitimate scientist will tell you the same thing. It is NEVER EVER NEVER EVER done and there is NEVER any legitimate reason for doing so. As in NEVER. So if you destroy your raw data you might as well take out a headline in your local newspaper that reads "I MADE IT ALL UP". The only way to confirm the findings of another scientist is by means of their RAW DATA. And the only reason to destroy it is so they CAN'T.

    THIS was a scam -built on a flimsy house of cards and it all came tumbling down after the first card was pulled out of it -and that first card was an admission by scientists at the UEA to having destroyed much of their raw data. Scientists claiming to be the leaders in this field -yet destroyed their raw data. THAT tells you all the basics you really need to know about "global warming". The fact that the known pathological liar Al Gore was involved tells you all the rest.
     
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    LOL. You cannot live without some salt in your diet. It is absolutely essential. So here, eat a whole quart of it right down. Has to be good for you, right?

    Frazzle, you are an idiot.
     
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    looking forward to a great change
     

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