The True Difference Between Liberals and "PROGRESSIVES"

[Catsnmeters]

I love me some Jimmy Dore.

Real Ass Dude

His pod is fantastic.

He is vax injured. Talks about what a piece of shit Fauci is all the time

He was injured by the Trump vaccine?

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Cultural liberalism is anything goes amorality, that is what the LGBT wants.
Economic liberlism is anti free market, anti wealth, anti independent right to work.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

He was injured by the Trump vaccine?

This raises another good point.

Supposedly Trump supporters are "cultists".

But we booed and jeered him when he talked up Operation Warp speed, and he quickly learned we won't just go along with anything he says simply because he is the one saying it.

He is OUR messenger, not the other way around.

When he strays, we induce his immediate course correction.

Biden, on the other hand?

He can lock you down, force you to wear masks an inject yourself - and not a peep from the supposedly "enlightened", "free thinking" PROGRESSIVES.

They will go along with whatever "The News" says, simply because "The News" is saying it.

 

[d0gbreath]

Now do MAGAs vs. Conservatives. They aren't anywhere near one and the same.

 

[Catsnmeters]

This raises another good point.

Supposedly Trump supporters are "cultists".

But we booed and jeered him when he talked up Operation Warp speed, and he quickly learned we won't just go along with anything he says simply because he is the one saying it.

He is OUR messenger, not the other way around.

When he strays, we induce his immediate course correction.

Biden, on the other hand?

He can lock you down, force you to wear masks an inject yourself - and not a peep from the supposedly "enlightened", "free thinking" PROGRESSIVES.

They will go along with whatever "The News" says, simply because "The News" is saying it.

That is a cute narrative.

What actually happened is Trump ingored Fauci's advice regarding the EUA, threw socialist money at big pharma and bullied his own agencies to fast track the vaccine because he had an election to win and then told America how great the vaccine was.

Gym Jordan needs to subpoena Trump and follow the money.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

That is a cute narrative.

What actually happened is Trump ingored Fauci's advice

Actually one of his biggest flaws was he adhered to far too much of Saint Fauci's would-be dictates.

But we're getting a little off topic, I don't want to turn this into a COVID thread, was just giving an example.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Now do MAGAs vs. Conservatives.

Oh I agree.

I am much more MAGA than conservative.

(Although I have learned to respect conservatism, and without it Trump would lose much support - make no mistake.)

Maybe you should start a thread on that?

 

[Catsnmeters]

Actually one of his biggest flaws was he adhered to far too much of Saint Fauci's would-be dictates.

But we're getting a little off topic, I don't want to turn this into a COVID thread, was just giving an example.

Good point.

 

[Oddball]

I disagree, friend.

Liberals are anti-censorship, anti-war, believe in freedom of the individual.

Maoist "PROGRESSIVE!" Leftism contradicts all these notions.

In fact, these notions are anathema to its very existence as a movement.

Oh, I'm not denying that....But those "liberals" are a bygone waypoint to today's freaks.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Oh, I'm not denying that....But those "liberals" are a bygone waypoint to today's freaks.

Are you saying that Liberals are "Progressive-Adjacent"?

 

[westwall]

Deranged cat lady here is a classic example of a "PROGRESSIVE".

Let's go through her delusional mind bombs "thought" by "thought", shall we?



Russia is everywhere. Putin lurks behind every corner.

And more importantly, any idea she happens to disagree with is a Russian psyop. (IE her media masters commanded her to disagree with, since critical thought has all but dissipated in the husk her brain once occupied.)



Anyone who disagrees with her must not be intelligent.

Which is incredibly ironic, because nuance is often a sign of some degree of intelligence.

Maher, who I often disagree with for the record, possesses nuance in a healthy abundance.

Cat lady does not.

Hhhmmmm.



More name calling, ad-hominem mental fog makes itself known in the specimen, with no actual ideas or counter-veiling points to make that add any substance to what is supposed to be a back and forth dialogue, but almost never is with the "PROGRESSIVE".

Often a sign of too many boosters.

In their false parlance it may be referred to as "Long COVID", which is - of course - unscientific tripe.



If I disagree with her, but also point out I agree with Liberals on certain fundamentals of the human condition (even though they are not exactly in my political wheelhouse) - I must be an agent of Moscow.

It couldn't possibly be that she's a close-minded, media brainwashed zombie.

Critical thinking is the enemy.

Why, it's Russian Disinformation, I tell you.





The specimen, clearly unhappy with her lot, and shedding mRNA detritus all over the place, finally ends with one last pathetic insult to add to her repertoire of thoughtless sputum.

Time to clean out that litterbox, Cat Lady.

Cat lady's days are fast running out. When the country implodes, she will starve to death.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Now do MAGAs vs. Conservatives. They aren't anywhere near one and the same.

Yes, Trump DID incorporate many liberal principles into his actions.

Take tariffs, for instance, which he support and which have always been a liberal way of protecting American workers.

 

[Richard-H]

When he strays, we induce his immediate course correction

So you support the indictments against Trump and his eventual imprisonment, right?

O.K. let's here the MAGA MAGGOT lame propaganda BS now....

 

[Oddball]

Are you saying that Liberals are "Progressive-Adjacent"?

Yup

 

[Richard-H]

Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Bill Maher, Bari Weiss, Jimmy Dore, the list goes on and on...

These are all old school Liberals who have not changed their positions on free speech and foreign policy, but are often to the Left of the MAGA movement when it comes to some social/fiscal issues.

As Liberals are.

It is the "PROGRESSIVE/WOKE" Left that they now deplore and find downright unrecognizable.

The COVID bullying, the endless wars, economic deprivation, sky high crime in blue cities - that now defines the Left.

Now, of course those at the top pulling the strings could care less about the puerile pawns like the people on this message board who truly buy the BS they're being sold by the Democrat Party. They're just in it for the $$$$. Just like the Establishment GOP.

But the Narrative they use to control has become hyper-militant. It's basically a combination of identity victim-hood politics and a reactionary crusade against any and all things Trump. This is what manipulates the weak little minions on the ground, and it screams of Leftist/Maoist thought control, because that's what it is.

That is why they use their rhetorical arsenal disbursed throughout the media, education and entertainment landscape to squeeze the Nation into helpless compliance. (At least that's the goal.)

Again, there is nothing Liberal about any of it, and the only reason they are able to get away with it is because the fools who follow them are blinded by the illusion of ORANGE MAN BAD and "We must defeat the White Patriarchy!/CLIMATE CHANGE WILL KILL US ALL IF WE DON'T GET RID OF TRUMP!" - all while the politicians at the top (Biden/Clinton/Obama etc.) laugh all the way to the Bank.

In short, Liberalism - whether one concurs with its ethos or not - requires critical thinking and the room for debate.

Leftism demands obedience.

Or else you're cast out of the tribe and must be destroyed as an enemy of the state.

Wow, you should be awarded the King of Strawmen!!!

It's always a laugh when MAGA MAGGOTS define Liberalism or Woke in ways that fit their lame arguments.

They fear Liberalism, but are scared to say what liberalism really is.

 

[Rogue AI]

I always thought the difference was that progressives didn't care how many innocents they have to sacrifice for the agenda, whereas 'liberals' pretend to care but don't. Just look at all their victims from their open borders policies. From child sex slaves to drug overdoses, rampant crime, all results of destructive liberal policies yet the most you get from them is lame lip service and crocodile tears.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Wow, you should be awarded the King of Strawmen!!!

It's always a laugh when MAGA MAGGOTS define Liberalism or Woke in ways that fit their lame arguments.

They fear Liberalism, but are scared to say what liberalism really is.

Witness here what we'll call Exhibit B.

The lack of any substantive argument, the ad-hominem screed, the vague allusions to strawmen while he is the one conjuring one from the depths of his own anguish.

Yep, a PROGRESSIVE.

P.S. However, if Richard-H stands for Richard Hell - you at least get points for some modicum of musical taste.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

I always thought the difference was that progressives didn't care how many innocents they have to sacrifice for the agenda, whereas 'liberals' pretend to care but don't. Just look at all their victims from their open borders policies. From child sex slaves to drug overdoses, rampant crime, all results of destructive liberal policies yet the most you get from them is lame lip service and crocodile tears.

It depends.

Admittedly, when it comes to Bill Maher you may have a point.

Every time he criticizes Leftists, he eventually relents due to his horrible case of TDS. Or it may be his "crocodile tears" as you say, because it is the Progressive system that cuts his paychecks.

It's a fair criticism.

But I would argue people like Dore, Greenwald, and Taibbi are liberals who have found themselves politically homeless because they have taken on the Progressive system all out and directly.

The have been totally ostracized.

Taibbi was recently audited by the IRS right after breaking the Twitter files story.

So they clearly harbor an ethos that not only does not comport with the authoritarian tendencies of "PROGRESSIVISM", but have also put their money where their mouth is.

We call them journalists.

And the World is sorely lacking in them these days.

 

[Rogue AI]

It depends.

Admittedly, when it comes to Bill Maher you may have a point.

Every time he criticizes Leftists, he eventually relents due to his horrible case of TDS. Or it may be his "crocodile tears" as you say, because it is the Progressive system that cuts his paychecks.

It's a fair criticism.

But I would argue people like Dore, Greenwald, and Taibbi are liberals who have found themselves politically homeless because they have taken on the Progressive system all out and directly.

The have been totally ostracized.

Taibbi was recently audited by the IRS right after breaking the Twitter files story.

So they clearly harbor an ethos that not only does not comport with the authoritarian tendencies of "PROGRESSIVISM", but have also put their money where their mouth is.

We call them journalists.

And the World is sorely lacking in them these days.

Have no pity for that trash, they brought it on themselves. So many of these problems were totally foreseeable and those scum remained silent until it finally caught up with them.

Those idiots believed they could be edgy and act as a foil to the inevitable criticism to the abject stupidity they supported for years. They didn't realize the modern progressives don't recognize criticism and burn down any who stand against them.

 

[Independentthinker]

Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Bill Maher, Bari Weiss, Jimmy Dore, the list goes on and on...

These are all old school Liberals who have not changed their positions on free speech and foreign policy, but are often to the Left of the MAGA movement when it comes to some social/fiscal issues.

As Liberals are.

It is the "PROGRESSIVE/WOKE" Left that they now deplore and find downright unrecognizable.

The COVID bullying, the endless wars, economic deprivation, sky high crime in blue cities - that now defines the Left.

Now, of course those at the top pulling the strings could care less about the puerile pawns like the people on this message board who truly buy the BS they're being sold by the Democrat Party. They're just in it for the $$$$. Just like the Establishment GOP.

But the Narrative they use to control has become hyper-militant. It's basically a combination of identity victim-hood politics and a reactionary crusade against any and all things Trump. This is what manipulates the weak little minions on the ground, and it screams of Leftist/Maoist thought control, because that's what it is.

That is why they use their rhetorical arsenal disbursed throughout the media, education and entertainment landscape to squeeze the Nation into helpless compliance. (At least that's the goal.)

Again, there is nothing Liberal about any of it, and the only reason they are able to get away with it is because the fools who follow them are blinded by the illusion of ORANGE MAN BAD and "We must defeat the White Patriarchy!/CLIMATE CHANGE WILL KILL US ALL IF WE DON'T GET RID OF TRUMP!" - all while the politicians at the top (Biden/Clinton/Obama etc.) laugh all the way to the Bank.

In short, Liberalism - whether one concurs with its ethos or not - requires critical thinking and the room for debate.

Leftism demands obedience.

Or else you're cast out of the tribe and must be destroyed as an enemy of the state.

Liberals have absolutely horrible ideas. Progressives are just batshit crazy woke socialists.