The Thing Feared Most About Trump...

[guno]

Say what you will about Donald Trump. The man is a successful business tycoon, everyone recognizes his name and he has made (and lost) fortunes through the years with his business acumen. He is a brash, plain-spoken, often bombastic speaker who doesn't care about what is politically correct. He is not beholden to either political party or any special interest aside from his own self interests. He certainly delivers enough caustic rhetoric for his enemies to feed on and they do... much to their chagrin, it generally tallies up to stronger poll numbers for him when they complain. But that's not the thing they fear most about Trump. None of it is.

The thing feared most about Trump from political strategists of every party, regardless of the candidate they may support, is that he is an anomaly. An unknown quantity. There is absolutely NO political history there. We simply do not know how many actual votes on ballots Trump can obtain. With any other candidate, there are some voting statistics and data to look at. You can analyze what went wrong or right in their campaign, find out how the voters felt about things or what influenced their vote... with Trump we have nothing.

Polls can be very unreliable and misleading. Most political analysts put more stock into where the money is at... who is best at fundraising? However, again with Trump, we simply have an unknown variable. He is funding his own campaign. So there is no voting data and no fundraising data. What Trump can ultimately do is unpredictable, even by the most astute political analyst.

His campaign appearances are off the charts in terms of numbers. No candidate in history has ever produced the kinds of numbers he is generating on a regular basis. Does this mean anything? We don't know. Could Trump bring something to the table that we simply cannot factor? This is the question on every political strategist's mind. We won't know until the votes start coming in and we can look at real numbers of real votes on real ballots. Until then, Trump is a giant question mark. This is what his adversaries fear the most... the great unknown.

New yorkers know this clown , bankruptcy may times and an ignorant jerk, he has more money than brains he will say whatever pays and right now he has the rubes as fans. he is a pt barnum

and the rubes

 

[bripat9643]

Everything you said here applies 100% to Obama, and not one bit to Trump. Obama is the disease. Trump is the cure.

What value has Trump added to anybody's life other than lining his own pockets. I get that some people like him because they see him as a self-made man (he's not). He has been bankrupt, claims to be worth more than he is (is a liar). He builds and runs casinos (if there ever was a form of 'entertainment' that preys on the weak minded and causes untold misery it's casinos). It adds no value to any body's life. If you want to champion a selfish, egomaniac who has more time for his hair than the average American, then go for it.

That's all lies, of course. Trump has created thousands of jobs and numerous beautiful hotels and apartment buildings. What has Hillary created?

 

[bripat9643]

Like I care what some ignorant foreigner thinks? Pfffffft, sit down, shithead, you're not even an American you have no say in the matter

Exhibit A: Ignorant, white trash. You're the reason I champion an IQ test before you vote. It's unfortunate that some well-thought out, intelligent American gets their vote negated by such an ill-informed simpleton like yourself.

How ironic

 

[bripat9643]

Keep on believing that...

It's not a belief. It's borne out on this board every day. Hey, I want Trump to win the nomination. Hillary will walk into the WH if he wins. The problem with primaries, you guys get all excited because he's doing well. He's doing well because he's appealing to the peanut gallery. Put him up against the rest of the country and he'll be toast. Easily.

You bear out the perception that Hillary supporters are a gang of nasty ill-mannered ingrates who want the working people of America to pay their bills.

 

[bripat9643]

Come back when you graduate from middle school grade insults, sonny. You're running with the big dawgs now, not your little leftist loon friends

I'm not running with anybody. I'm just wondering if you're at the stage of nominating Trump for sainthood yet. I mean, we all know he really cares for you. No, he does. Really...

Typical libturd straw man.

 

[Wildman]

timmy ya little twerp

 

[bripat9643]

He's the best candidate got it?

He's not even in the top five. Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Christie, Carson, Huckerbee and Paul may all have various issues but have more smarts and would make infinitely better presidents than him (and that's not saying much). Christie would be the best of the lot IMO..

If one of them was in the lead, you would be directing your vicious unfocused smears at him.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[bripat9643]

Oh really, show me that poll

It's my opinion. Polls are nothing more than popularity contests.

You opinion and $3.00 will get you a grande latte at Starbucks.

 

[bripat9643]

You won't be laughing when you have to call him President Trump.

You don't really want him as president? Do you? C'mon, you can do better than that. Seriously...

You actually want Hillary the criminal as president?

 

[protectionist]

. You're the kind of person that laughs at education, believes global warming is some sort of scientific conspiracy theory to gain funding, and that Donald Trump will make a good president. What do you do for an encore? Think all Hispanics are illegal immigrants?

Donald Trump WILL make a good president. Why would anyone not think that ?

 

[Boss]

Oh really, show me that poll

It's my opinion. Polls are nothing more than popularity contests.

You opinion and $3.00 will get you a grande latte at Starbucks.

I think you are way overestimating the value of his opinion or haven't bought a grande latte at Starbucks lately.

 

[Boss]

Say what you will about Donald Trump. The man is a successful business tycoon, everyone recognizes his name and he has made (and lost) fortunes through the years with his business acumen. He is a brash, plain-spoken, often bombastic speaker who doesn't care about what is politically correct. He is not beholden to either political party or any special interest aside from his own self interests. He certainly delivers enough caustic rhetoric for his enemies to feed on and they do... much to their chagrin, it generally tallies up to stronger poll numbers for him when they complain. But that's not the thing they fear most about Trump. None of it is.

The thing feared most about Trump from political strategists of every party, regardless of the candidate they may support, is that he is an anomaly. An unknown quantity. There is absolutely NO political history there. We simply do not know how many actual votes on ballots Trump can obtain. With any other candidate, there are some voting statistics and data to look at. You can analyze what went wrong or right in their campaign, find out how the voters felt about things or what influenced their vote... with Trump we have nothing.

Polls can be very unreliable and misleading. Most political analysts put more stock into where the money is at... who is best at fundraising? However, again with Trump, we simply have an unknown variable. He is funding his own campaign. So there is no voting data and no fundraising data. What Trump can ultimately do is unpredictable, even by the most astute political analyst.

His campaign appearances are off the charts in terms of numbers. No candidate in history has ever produced the kinds of numbers he is generating on a regular basis. Does this mean anything? We don't know. Could Trump bring something to the table that we simply cannot factor? This is the question on every political strategist's mind. We won't know until the votes start coming in and we can look at real numbers of real votes on real ballots. Until then, Trump is a giant question mark. This is what his adversaries fear the most... the great unknown.

New yorkers know this clown , bankruptcy may times and an ignorant jerk, he has more money than brains he will say whatever pays and right now he has the rubes as fans. he is a pt barnum

and the rubes

All you have are memes.

Hey look... I want Trump to stumble too... really, I do! I am a Ted Cruz guy, I want Cruz to be the GOP nominee for president. Obviously, he has to beat Trump. But I am watching the same polls as you and I realize he could win the nomination. Throwing up these little silly memes is not going to sway his supporters. Pretending he is irrelevant, will probably drop out or run third party, is not going to change reality. Smearing and jeering doesn't seem to do anything but make him more popular. Is that the plan? Are you doing this in order to ensure he wins the nomination? If so, that's fine but you better be figuring out what you're going to do when he's running against Hillary in the general.

 

[Sarah G]

Say what you will about Donald Trump. The man is a successful business tycoon, everyone recognizes his name and he has made (and lost) fortunes through the years with his business acumen. He is a brash, plain-spoken, often bombastic speaker who doesn't care about what is politically correct. He is not beholden to either political party or any special interest aside from his own self interests. He certainly delivers enough caustic rhetoric for his enemies to feed on and they do... much to their chagrin, it generally tallies up to stronger poll numbers for him when they complain. But that's not the thing they fear most about Trump. None of it is.

The thing feared most about Trump from political strategists of every party, regardless of the candidate they may support, is that he is an anomaly. An unknown quantity. There is absolutely NO political history there. We simply do not know how many actual votes on ballots Trump can obtain. With any other candidate, there are some voting statistics and data to look at. You can analyze what went wrong or right in their campaign, find out how the voters felt about things or what influenced their vote... with Trump we have nothing.

Polls can be very unreliable and misleading. Most political analysts put more stock into where the money is at... who is best at fundraising? However, again with Trump, we simply have an unknown variable. He is funding his own campaign. So there is no voting data and no fundraising data. What Trump can ultimately do is unpredictable, even by the most astute political analyst.

His campaign appearances are off the charts in terms of numbers. No candidate in history has ever produced the kinds of numbers he is generating on a regular basis. Does this mean anything? We don't know. Could Trump bring something to the table that we simply cannot factor? This is the question on every political strategist's mind. We won't know until the votes start coming in and we can look at real numbers of real votes on real ballots. Until then, Trump is a giant question mark. This is what his adversaries fear the most... the great unknown.

New yorkers know this clown , bankruptcy may times and an ignorant jerk, he has more money than brains he will say whatever pays and right now he has the rubes as fans. he is a pt barnum

and the rubes

All you have are memes.

Hey look... I want Trump to stumble too... really, I do! I am a Ted Cruz guy, I want Cruz to be the GOP nominee for president. Obviously, he has to beat Trump. But I am watching the same polls as you and I realize he could win the nomination. Throwing up these little silly memes is not going to sway his supporters. Pretending he is irrelevant, will probably drop out or run third party, is not going to change reality. Smearing and jeering doesn't seem to do anything but make him more popular. Is that the plan? Are you doing this in order to ensure he wins the nomination? If so, that's fine but you better be figuring out what you're going to do when he's running against Hillary in the general.

He doesn't have enough support, you know? He and Cruz have to split the extremists in the republican party and then they have to have a high turnout. He's doing well right now but in the general? He won't be taking dems away from Hillary.

 

[Boss]

He doesn't have enough support, you know? He and Cruz have to split the extremists in the republican party and then they have to have a high turnout. He's doing well right now but in the general? He won't be taking dems away from Hillary.

First of all, I take exception with "extremists" when you mean to say "conservatives." The conservatives are the polar opposite of extremists.... by fucking definition.

Now... In the general election, the conservative vote will not be split between Trump and Cruz as it is in the primary. They won't be running against each other unless one of them runs third party. It's possible they could end up on the same ticket. Also... of ALL the GOP candidates, Trump is more likely to snag some former Democrat voters than pretty much anyone. I will agree, if you are 100% committed to Hillary Clinton at this time, Trump will probably not sway your vote.

One thing that will be much bigger than anyone is considering is voter turnout. And again, this goes back to the OP point of Trump being an anomaly. I would be willing to bet there are people out there who have not voted in years, perhaps not ever voted before, who will turn out to vote for Donald J. Trump. How many? No one knows... it's an unknown variable, which is what everyone fears about Trump. Meanwhile, the liberal left are frustrated... Hillary is not their candidate... Bernie is, but he's not going to win the nomination. Many of them are going to do like many conservatives did in 2008 and 2012 and sit this one out.

I fully expect you to downplay Trump's chances, after all, that's part of the game. He's not electable, can't win, not a serious candidate... I understand why you have to say this stuff. At the end of the day we'll have an election and we'll see.

 

[Sarah G]

So now you say Trump and Cruz, both TPers, extreme, birther, homophobic, anti female, dirtballs are mainstream conservatives?

Doesn't matter. Neither are going anywhere near the WH.

 

[Boss]

So now you say Trump and Cruz, both TPers, extreme, birther, homophobic, anti female, dirtballs are mainstream conservatives?

Doesn't matter. Neither are going anywhere near the WH.

No... that is what YOU are saying and then ridiculously trying to claim that I am saying.

And newsflash: If they get 270 electoral votes, they will be heading to the white house.

 

[555]

You bitch and moan about politicians. Now comes the "un-politician" who's willing to step up to lead ...and what do we hear...bitching and moaning...from folks who are comfortable with the status quo and who really don't want change.

4 years of Trump will be shake up the status quo and perhaps attract more business people and others to political leadership and government.

I'm not afraid of Trump, I am afraid of the continued negative impact on this country of armchair bitchers and moaners...

 

[HenryBHough]

While Trump has created many construction jobs, so has Mrs. Rodham-Clinton/Lewinsky. A good portion of the jobs Trump created are in America. A good portion of the jobs Hillary created are in clearing the rubble of American embassies and burying their dead.

See, they're BOTH "job builders"!

 

[Dr Grump]

Many of them are going to do like many conservatives did in 2008 and 2012 and sit this one out.

Not if Trump is in the mix.

 

[G.T.]

You bitch and moan about politicians. Now comes the "un-politician" who's willing to step up to lead ...and what do we hear...bitching and moaning...from folks who are comfortable with the status quo and who really don't want change.

4 years of Trump will be shake up the status quo and perhaps attract more business people and others to political leadership and government.

I'm not afraid of Trump, I am afraid of the continued negative impact on this country of armchair bitchers and moaners...

trump is a politician.