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They are mainly protesting about taxes. And yet...95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama. Here's a list of deductions affecting millions of Americans:First of all, where was the Tea Party prior to 2008? It wasn't like the Federal Government during the Bush adminstration was "small government".
Secondly, my personal opinion of the Tea Party will go up significantly if they continue to operate with gusto during the next Republican Presidential Administration and during the next Republican controlled Congress.
Until I see that, the Tea Party is just an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, pro-Republican organization.
They are mainly protesting about taxes. And yet...95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama. Here's a list of deductions affecting millions of Americans:First of all, where was the Tea Party prior to 2008? It wasn't like the Federal Government during the Bush adminstration was "small government".
Secondly, my personal opinion of the Tea Party will go up significantly if they continue to operate with gusto during the next Republican Presidential Administration and during the next Republican controlled Congress.
Until I see that, the Tea Party is just an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, pro-Republican organization.
Expanded tax credits :: Geneva Sun :: News
Now do you suppose the teepees at tomorrows protests will realize that they are protesting something that just isn't so?
First of all, where was the Tea Party prior to 2008? It wasn't like the Federal Government during the Bush adminstration was "small government".
Secondly, my personal opinion of the Tea Party will go up significantly if they continue to operate with gusto during the next Republican Presidential Administration and during the next Republican controlled Congress.
Until I see that, the Tea Party is just an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, pro-Republican organization.
Tea Parties The Other White Meat:
Trying to read the tea leaves
These data points from the Center for Survey Research at the University of Washington released last week are pretty dismaying:
The Tea Party, the incipient movement that claims to be committed to reining in what they perceive as big government, appears to be motivated by more than partisanship and ideology. Approximately 45% of Whites either strongly or somewhat approve of the movement. Of those, only 35% believe Blacks to be hardworking, only 45 % believe Blacks are intelligent, and only 41% think that Blacks are trustworthy. Perceptions of Latinos arent much different. While 54% of White Tea Party supporters believe Latinos to be hardworking, only 44% think them intelligent, and even fewer, 42% of Tea Party supporters believe Latinos to be trustworthy.
Nate Silver looks over the numbers and notes:
Avid white tea party sympathizers do not even hold mainstream attitudes among whites. If we included the attitudes of non-whites, the views of white tea party sympathizers would be even more aberrant. Some conservatives believe there is a systematic attempt to demonize the tea party movement and their supporters. There is probably some truth to that. But in the same vein, aberrant opinions espoused by tea partiers or their sympathizers should neither be ignored nor papered-over.
Change of Subject: Trying to read the tea leaves
Tea Parties The Other White Meat:
Trying to read the tea leaves
These data points from the Center for Survey Research at the University of Washington released last week are pretty dismaying:
The Tea Party, the incipient movement that claims to be committed to reining in what they perceive as big government, appears to be motivated by more than partisanship and ideology. Approximately 45% of Whites either strongly or somewhat approve of the movement. Of those, only 35% believe Blacks to be hardworking, only 45 % believe Blacks are intelligent, and only 41% think that Blacks are trustworthy. Perceptions of Latinos arent much different. While 54% of White Tea Party supporters believe Latinos to be hardworking, only 44% think them intelligent, and even fewer, 42% of Tea Party supporters believe Latinos to be trustworthy.
Nate Silver looks over the numbers and notes:
Avid white tea party sympathizers do not even hold mainstream attitudes among whites. If we included the attitudes of non-whites, the views of white tea party sympathizers would be even more aberrant. Some conservatives believe there is a systematic attempt to demonize the tea party movement and their supporters. There is probably some truth to that. But in the same vein, aberrant opinions espoused by tea partiers or their sympathizers should neither be ignored nor papered-over.
Change of Subject: Trying to read the tea leaves
The left is so focused on race.
The left is so focused on race.
Focused doesn't quite capture it,, obsessive is closer! they've been screaming non stop about evil old white Republicans since obie messiah took office. and booed President Bush on inauguration day.. they contine to beg for R E S P E C T..
As I said, the left is focused on race.The left is so focused on race.
Focused doesn't quite capture it,, obsessive is closer! they've been screaming non stop about evil old white Republicans since obie messiah took office. and booed President Bush on inauguration day.. they contine to beg for R E S P E C T..
"R E S P E C T"....originally sung by Otis Redding and make more famous by Aretha Franklin. And you say the LEFT is focused on race?
As I said, the left is focused on race.Focused doesn't quite capture it,, obsessive is closer! they've been screaming non stop about evil old white Republicans since obie messiah took office. and booed President Bush on inauguration day.. they contine to beg for R E S P E C T..
"R E S P E C T"....originally sung by Otis Redding and make more famous by Aretha Franklin. And you say the LEFT is focused on race?
They are mainly protesting about taxes. And yet...95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama. Here's a list of deductions affecting millions of Americans:First of all, where was the Tea Party prior to 2008? It wasn't like the Federal Government during the Bush adminstration was "small government".
Secondly, my personal opinion of the Tea Party will go up significantly if they continue to operate with gusto during the next Republican Presidential Administration and during the next Republican controlled Congress.
Until I see that, the Tea Party is just an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, pro-Republican organization.
Expanded tax credits :: Geneva Sun :: News
Now do you suppose the teepees at tomorrows protests will realize that they are protesting something that just isn't so?
They are mainly protesting about taxes. And yet...95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama. Here's a list of deductions affecting millions of Americans:First of all, where was the Tea Party prior to 2008? It wasn't like the Federal Government during the Bush adminstration was "small government".
Secondly, my personal opinion of the Tea Party will go up significantly if they continue to operate with gusto during the next Republican Presidential Administration and during the next Republican controlled Congress.
Until I see that, the Tea Party is just an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, pro-Republican organization.
Expanded tax credits :: Geneva Sun :: News
Now do you suppose the teepees at tomorrows protests will realize that they are protesting something that just isn't so?
No. From what I can tell, most of them are too stupid to understand anything on their own. They do whatever the Becks and Hannitys and Limbaughs of the world tell them.
First of all
I find it ironic that some would suggest that the tea party are loons while using pro-"Palin in 2012" avatars! Have you not realized that her becoming president is a significant possibility. Do you want to kill us? That is right, I am talking to you, citizen. Cease and desist from your dangerous ways!!
Next, of course the tea partiers are right wingers and of course they detest Obama's leftism!! I think it is wonderful that there are anti-establishment citizens in the country. Although the reasons they claim to be anti-establishment runs counter to my reasons, they do make useful political cannon fodder for those trying to gain power from the Democrats. Viva la revolucion!! or something like that
Finally, you democrats are actually laughing at the republicans. At least be honest about it. The right has fragmented into 2 camps:Tea Baggers and Republicans and the up coming race does not look as bad as some would suggest after HCR was introduced. The Republican voting block is split and extremely damaged. Micheal Steele has alot of work ahead of him to bring the right under the Republican party. In fact, there is a possibility that the Republican party is going to dissolve over the next couple of years dut to the right wing revolution that is the tea party.
My suggestion to right wingers--VOTE LIBERTARIAN
Where have I trashed them?
Your statement below isn't true. I call that trashing them.
xotoxi said:Until I see that, the Tea Party is just an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, pro-Republican organization.
Really? You see that as trashing them? I think there's a lot of truth to it.
Your statement below isn't true. I call that trashing them.
Really? You see that as trashing them? I think there's a lot of truth to it.
I have yet to meet a TEA Partier who is 'anti-Obama', 'anti-Democrat' or 'pro-Republican'. That is the impression you get from the media... but the media is not exactly unbiased in their stance on the TEA Parties.
Personally, I think anyone who actually want to know what the parties are should go to one and find out. Otherwise, while you are entitled to voice an opinion, your opinion has no basis in fact which makes it worthless.
Really? You see that as trashing them? I think there's a lot of truth to it.
I have yet to meet a TEA Partier who is 'anti-Obama', 'anti-Democrat' or 'pro-Republican'. That is the impression you get from the media... but the media is not exactly unbiased in their stance on the TEA Parties.
Personally, I think anyone who actually want to know what the parties are should go to one and find out. Otherwise, while you are entitled to voice an opinion, your opinion has no basis in fact which makes it worthless.
So, in your OPINION, the TEA Parties are not "anti-Obama", "anti-Demcorat" or pro-Republican".....got it.
I have yet to meet a TEA Partier who is 'anti-Obama', 'anti-Democrat' or 'pro-Republican'. That is the impression you get from the media... but the media is not exactly unbiased in their stance on the TEA Parties.
Personally, I think anyone who actually want to know what the parties are should go to one and find out. Otherwise, while you are entitled to voice an opinion, your opinion has no basis in fact which makes it worthless.
So, in your OPINION, the TEA Parties are not "anti-Obama", "anti-Demcorat" or pro-Republican".....got it.
Yep, my opinion. Based on something slightly more substantial than some unsourced images from the internet. Now, remind me again, who was it who posted 'TEA Party' images and then could not source the images, could not state which TEA Party, or where, or who took the images... in fact, no context whatsoever.... and that's your 'evidence'. To anyone with an IQ over 50, you are a joke.
Do you consider that the next Republican administration / Rep congress is likely to devolve power and curtail public spending, or do you think they will centralize and increase spending?
Well, considering that the last Republican POTUS and GOP Congress centralized and increased spending, what do YOU think?
Yeah, OK, but I was asking about the NEXT one. I know it's convenient to keep looking back over our shoulders to find rocks to throw, but I was asking about the NEXT admin. And it was a question to xotoxi, not you. I'm quite well aware of your attitude to anyone who has attended or supports the tea parties ("racist jerkoffs" I believe you described them as - sorry if I'm misquoting you), so given that animosity I'm not sure that attempting to answer your question is worthwhile. However...
I didn't live in America during the last administration, so I don't know whether your summation is fair or not. I guess it could be.
Historically, the Republican Party has been viewed as, generally speaking, the party of lower taxes and smaller government. Whether this view is accurate based on the record of the Bush administration is an interesting question.
If the next Rep admin is consistent with traditional Rep policy, it would not be a surprise to see lower spending and smaller governement, in which case the aims of the Tea Party movement (by which I mean the original stated aims) would have been realized.
However, I foresee difficulty in cutting taxes because of the legacy of debt that has been taken on, both by the former administration and the current one. As such, while I supported the original aims of the tea party movement, I think that the debt load that has now been taken on needs to be serviced somehow. It would therefore not be a surprise to me to see a future Rep admin not making any significant tax cuts.
If this is the case, then the Tea Party movement should continue (unless of course all tea partyers are economic pragmatists). As it is, I suspect the tea party movement will continue for the time being as the GOP can use it as a stick with which to beat the Obama administration.
But if a Republican POTUS is in office in 3 or 7 years time and he/she fails to cut taxes, then I think the Tea Party movement will still die away because it is heavily aligned with the GOP. The Rep administration will find it difficult to cut taxes in view of the debt that needs to be serviced and this will be used as the excuse for the demise of the tea party movement. The truth of course will be that the GOP would make the tea parties disappear whether there was additional debt to service or not.
That's a rather fumbled, stream of consciousness answer, because I had not really thought about it before (hence my question to xotoxi, who seemed to have considered it a bit more thoroughly).
Either way, I hope that answers your question about my views, assuming you were actually interested in the opinion of a jackoff racist.
Yep, my opinion. Based on something slightly more substantial than some unsourced images from the internet. Now, remind me again, who was it who posted 'TEA Party' images and then could not source the images, could not state which TEA Party, or where, or who took the images... in fact, no context whatsoever.... and that's your 'evidence'. To anyone with an IQ over 50, you are a joke.
You are incorrect. The tax break isn't something anyone had to pay back. It is possible that if your employer used the revised schedule E to figure your taxes they didn't take out enough...but the $800 or whatever you got you don't return.They are mainly protesting about taxes. And yet...95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama. Here's a list of deductions affecting millions of Americans:First of all, where was the Tea Party prior to 2008? It wasn't like the Federal Government during the Bush adminstration was "small government".
Secondly, my personal opinion of the Tea Party will go up significantly if they continue to operate with gusto during the next Republican Presidential Administration and during the next Republican controlled Congress.
Until I see that, the Tea Party is just an anti-Obama, anti-Democrat, pro-Republican organization.
Expanded tax credits :: Geneva Sun :: News
Now do you suppose the teepees at tomorrows protests will realize that they are protesting something that just isn't so?
Please show me exactly where your "95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama" came from. It certainly isn't in the link you posted. And as for that link, the first point is crap. Yes Obama let us keep some money in our paychecks, but guess what when you did your taxes you paid it right back to Obama. Please explain how that is a "tax break." Here's a hint: IT ISN'T!!!!!!!!! Since the tax tables were NOT changed to include the Making Work Pay Credit, there was no tax benefit from it other than a loan of 20 dollars a week from the Federal Government.
Might want to research some more before you post links to articles that are FACTUALLY incorrect.
Rick
filers-confused-by-stimulus-credit: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! FinanceThe new tax credit, championed by President Obama as a follow-through on his campaign promise to provide broad-based tax relief, affects 95 percent of all Americans by cutting $400 from the total tax bill for individual filers and $800 for married couples.
You are incorrect. The tax break isn't something anyone had to pay back. It is possible that if your employer used the revised schedule E to figure your taxes they didn't take out enough...but the $800 or whatever you got you don't return.They are mainly protesting about taxes. And yet...95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama. Here's a list of deductions affecting millions of Americans:
Expanded tax credits :: Geneva Sun :: News
Now do you suppose the teepees at tomorrows protests will realize that they are protesting something that just isn't so?
Please show me exactly where your "95% of Americans got a tax break from Obama" came from. It certainly isn't in the link you posted. And as for that link, the first point is crap. Yes Obama let us keep some money in our paychecks, but guess what when you did your taxes you paid it right back to Obama. Please explain how that is a "tax break." Here's a hint: IT ISN'T!!!!!!!!! Since the tax tables were NOT changed to include the Making Work Pay Credit, there was no tax benefit from it other than a loan of 20 dollars a week from the Federal Government.
Might want to research some more before you post links to articles that are FACTUALLY incorrect.
Rick
As for your link to the 95%
filers-confused-by-stimulus-credit: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! FinanceThe new tax credit, championed by President Obama as a follow-through on his campaign promise to provide broad-based tax relief, affects 95 percent of all Americans by cutting $400 from the total tax bill for individual filers and $800 for married couples.
