The "Smartest" Boys in the Room make a Schoolboy Error.

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    The Royal Society (recently the focus of a minor rebellion by some of its more scientifically honest members) has been found to have made a mathematical blunder that would best be described as really, really, really, dumb. Something a middle school student might have done...but certainly not something you would expect the smartect guys in the room (well at least they think they are) to have committed.


    Royal Society Humiliated by Global Warming Basic Math Error
     
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    Kaiser, K. L. E, ‘The Carbon Cycle and Royal Society Math,’ Canadafreepress.com (October 13, 2010), accessed online: October 14, 2010

    Johnson, C., ‘FRS Multiplication Table and CO2,’ claesjohnson.blogspot.com (October 14, 2010), accessed online: October 14, 2010

    Ball, T., email correspondence with author (October 14, 2010)

    Hertzberg, M., email correspondence with author (October 14, 2010)

    Gerlach TM, McGee KA, Ekiast T, Sutton AJ, Doukas MP, 2002. Carbon dioxide emission rate of Kilauea Volcano: Implications for primary magma and the summit reservoir. Journal of geophysical research, 107: ECV3.1-ECV 3.15.



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    Well, with a referance page like that, I will have to see something that is from real scientists before I would say the physicists of the past years have been wrong.
     
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    Well then I suggest you look! Go on take a look!
     
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    Dr. Kaiser's letter-


     
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    Yes, the oceans have absorbed the majority of the CO2 that man has created. However, it is not being used up in photosynthesis. It is still there in the form of carbonic acid, and has raised the acidity of the ocean enough to endanger coral and other single celled oceanic life.

    Global Scientists Draw Attention To Threat Of Ocean Acidification

    ScienceDaily (Feb. 5, 2009) — More than 150 leading marine scientists from 26 countries are calling for immediate action by policy-makers to sharply reduce CO2 emissions so as to avoid widespread and severe damage to marine ecosystems from ocean acidification.
     
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    I hate to tell you olfraud but your links don't negate the basic facts that the RS made a boneheaded error. And you folks keep perpetuating it.
     
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    The math doesn't lie here. If oceans are absorbing it, then why are you looking to the atomsphere for answers? The model is wrong if it cannot predict results that are observable. That is why it is so critical to fudge the temperature readings. Cheats and liars acting like scientists.
     
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    Carbon Dioxide, thats dry ice, seems like that CO2 likes to be cold.

    Of course I aint no smart professor getting fat off of tax dollars or some research for profit scam started by chicken little.

    Post a link, I like the ones you people post that link to press releases.

    How come you just dont take a point made in the study, present the facts, and link to the actual study.

    that is a serious question, posting a link and nothing more show me that your at best lazy and do not take the time to learn the topic.

    I see many schoolboy errors made by the green energy (green-garbage or fake-green energy) advocates.

    try at least posting something other than a link, after all, it is a waste of energy and you do want to be green, dont you.
     
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    NASA - Carbon Dioxide Controls Earth's Temperature

    A companion study led by GISS co-author Gavin Schmidt that has been accepted for publication in the Journal of Geophysical Research shows that carbon dioxide accounts for about 20 percent of the greenhouse effect, water vapor and clouds together account for 75 percent, and minor gases and aerosols make up the remaining five percent. However, it is the 25 percent non-condensing greenhouse gas component, which includes carbon dioxide, that is the key factor in sustaining Earth’s greenhouse effect. By this accounting, carbon dioxide is responsible for 80 percent of the radiative forcing that sustains the Earth’s greenhouse effect.

    Now this is the source of the figures in the article.

    Kaiser, K. L. E, ‘The Carbon Cycle and Royal Society Math,’ Canadafreepress.com (October 13, 2010), accessed online: October 14, 2010

    Canadafreepress. Hmmmm......... Was that before or after the story about batboy?
     

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