The second Amendment.

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  1. RetiredGySgt
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    What we know it means based on Supreme Court rulings.....

    It is a right reserved to the States to form militias

    It is an individual right to own firearms.

    Further we know that the TYPE of firearm protected by the second is MILITARY style weapons. There is no such thing as an assault rifle, but since everyone likes to use that term, IT is protected by the second.

    You don't have to read the second or believe me. The Court has said so.

    The purpose of the second is to provide the States with the ability to form militias from able bodied citizens. That Militia is to act as an army. A semi automatic rifle or pistol is the core of the armaments required. As established by the Supreme Court and our Founding fathers.

    No ban on "assault" weapons will stand. No Ban on 30 round magazines will stand and no ban on ammunition will stand.

    If Congress passes a ban it will go to Court and unless our Supreme Court Justices fail to follow the law and the Constitution it will be overturned.

    Further banning their further sale does nothing about the ones already out there. If we are to take our President at his word he wants to confiscate those weapons as well. Can anyone guess where THAT will lead?
     
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    We don't allow ordinary citizens to arm themselves with nuclear or biological weapons. The fact is, the line needs to be drawn somewhere.

    Seems to me, the Amendment needs amending.
     
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    Go for it... but maybe, just maybe, you might be able to specifically define your term 'assault weapon' for us
     
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    That is the only legal recourse. But the Gun grabbers know that will never get approved. And the second does draw the line at semi automatic rifles and pistols. Fully automatic are ban-able and are only legal in 37 States with a federal license.
     
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    The Amendment is just fine. It's the knee-jerk reaction every time white people, especially kids, gets killed that needs to end. Changing the mental health industry in the US is a step in the right direction. Gun control is a buzz word and nothing more.
     
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    I agree.

    The bushmaster is a military weapon. Why should that gun be in my gun safe?

    As we saw, the man who attacked the school children with a knife in China was not able to kill even one of them. OTOH, one of the children being buried in Conn today was shot 11 times.

    The stop gap measures, like arming teachers, are just nonsense. In that case, how would a school guarantee the armed teacher is in the exact place where the shooter enters the school? Or, why would we think that a teacher (or admin, secty, etc) could get the key, unlock the closet, load the gun, point and shoot in the very few seconds it takes to kill a dozen people with one bushmaster? How long before we heard that a child had gotten into the locked closet and gotten the gun?

    The other ideas don't make any more sense than that one does and besides, WHO, in their right mind, would want their child in a school where people are actually armed???? I cannot imagine that anyone is THAT clueless.
     
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    The line has been drawn at fully automatic weapons, a citizen can own one but it takes a very expensive license. You can't take away rights just because they're inconvenient or cost a few lives, just ask the abortionist. Hell they base their claim on the nonexistent right to privacy.
     
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    Maybe, we have to enjoin people to have killing viruses in their pockets :D
     
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    So these 26 adults and kids chose guyget shot by this guy?
    please stop using abortion to further your argument that you should have your guns.
    It might work on a message board but it would be rejected by americans.

    You lose the moral high ground when 20 kids are killed! in the fashion they where killed.
     
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