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The ones that didn't trust him didn't show up to be counted in the exit poll.
Sure they did - a lot of them show up in the Obama column.
A lot of them show up in the Romney column too. Because Romney's campaign was NEVER about how good Romney is ... it was ALWAYS about how bad Obama is.
The far right fanatics showed up in droves to vote against Obama. They would have voted for anyone as long as it wasn't Barack Obama.
October 2012 Rasmussen party ID poll...Rep 39%, Dem 33%, Ind 27%
2012 - Mitt Romney...exit polling Rep 32%, Dem 38%, Ind. 29%
For comparison:
October 2004 Rasmussen party ID poll...Rep 37%, Dem 39%, Ind 24%
2004 - George Bush...exit polling Rep 37%, Dem 37%, Ind. 26%
October 2008 Rasmussen party ID poll...Rep 33%, Dem 40%, Ind 26%
2008 - John McCain...exit polling Rep 32%, Dem 39%, Ind 29%
So you tell me...who didn't show up?
That all may be true, but this is about how party is alienating moderates both inside and outside the party.
Romney may have governed as a moderate but he did not run as a moderate, at least to those who aren't on the far right of the GOP.
Those lower numbers are the result of the hatred turning off the sensible pubs, centrists, and leftists.
Hate by his own voters defeated Romney.
That all may be true, but this is about how party is alienating moderates both inside and outside the party.
Romney may have governed as a moderate but he did not run as a moderate, at least to those who aren't on the far right of the GOP.
Actually, Romney struck me as a moderate. Certainly moreso than Obama.
Romney's problem, though, is that he never gave any specifics about what he would do. I was far more turned off by the hordes of morons in the GOP than Romney himself.
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Romney ran on
- cutting taxes
- cutting spending
- increasing defense spending
- closer ties with Israel and a more hard line on Iran
- repeal Obamacare
He also picked as his running mate the guy whose signature item is a radical restructuring of Medicare designed to limit spending on healthcare.
What was moderate about that? That may look moderate to the far right but it looks conservative to everyone else.
There was no definitive proposal for tax reform (like the FairTax or 9-9-9), just some nebulous concepts. Ryan's ideas didn't go far enough, they didn't actually cut any spending. Also, Ryan is a career politician with no achievement outside of Washington. That's not a solution for any problems.
The GOP has failed us ever since 2005 when Gillespie announced that the Republican Party was no longer the party of small government. Instead of being talked down to by unsuccessful Republican autocrats, I'm going to try and bring our local Libertarian Party into the mainstream.
That all may be true, but this is about how party is alienating moderates both inside and outside the party.
Romney may have governed as a moderate but he did not run as a moderate, at least to those who aren't on the far right of the GOP.
The rassmussen polls shows what percentage of people who showed up at the polls identified themselves as. It - by definition - doesn't say anything about who stayed home.
Unless you ASSUME that the same number of Americans on the whole are identifying themselves with the same parties. My numbers - which are not exit poll numbers - show that there is a smaller pool of Republicans (percentage wise) today than in 2005. And Rassmussen's polls have been notoriously off since 2008. You'd do better to cite a more reliable poll.
Please...click the link.
The Rasmussen poll ISN'T AN EXIT POLL.
It is a monthly poll independent of any election.
If you don't want to admit the obvious...just stop posting.
I'm trying to find a way to say this nicely...
You are blinded by your bias...you are so sure you are correct that you haven't looked at what I posted.
So far you have made two posts about it and both have been absolutely incorrect.
Take a deep breath, read the links and come back and post something supported by facts.
I've posted my facts. Your post was based partially on exit polls which by definition can produce nothing to address who stayed at home.
Your second piece of "verification" were Rassmussen polls which indicate exactly the opposite of what the polls I posted claimed.
Fine, you want to keep sticking to "Rassmussen is right and everyone else is wrong."
That's your right. In American there is no obligation to learn from mistakes.
Self identified Republicans national wide 39% in October 2012.October 2012 Rasmussen party ID poll...Rep 39%, Dem 33%, Ind 27%
2012 - Mitt Romney...exit polling Rep 32%, Dem 38%, Ind. 29%
When the GOP welcomes middle class workers and quits even taking into consideration the needs of the uber wealthy then they will attract more voters.
I remember him (from studies, of course) as the POTUS who has come closer than anyone to destroying this nation.Would you have politically opposed slavery?
Surely you don't deny that it was a moral issue.
Lincoln, the father of the Republican party, is not remembered for his fiscal policy, but for his moral stand.
You have really surprised me the last few days, modo.
Dunno if that is a good thing or bad thing.If the Republican party would stick to it's traditional conservative agenda and quit pandering to the so called moderates, both inside and outside of the party.
It would attract far more people and basically crush the DNC on every issue and decisively win the national elections.
When the GOP welcomes middle class workers and quits even taking into consideration the needs of the uber wealthy then they will attract more voters.
Romney ran on
- cutting taxes
- cutting spending
- increasing defense spending
- closer ties with Israel and a more hard line on Iran
- repeal Obamacare
He also picked as his running mate the guy whose signature item is a radical restructuring of Medicare designed to limit spending on healthcare.
What was moderate about that? That may look moderate to the far right but it looks conservative to everyone else.
You define yourself as moderate, and you believe in these things, do you not?
So this proves nothing.
Romney was a moderate.
To deny it is foolishness.
And the to say? "Well we picked this guy, but it the social conservatives ...who didn't want him in the first place... it's their fault moderates didn't vote for him in the general election..." is total and complete hogwash.
This was YOUR candidate.
Fiscally conservative, and not socially conservative.
He was a pro-choice governor. "On a personal basis, I don't favor abortion. However, as governor of the commonwealth, I will protect a woman's right to choose under the laws of the country and the commonwealth. That's the same position I've had for many years."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Mitt_Romney#cite_note-i2000-a-142
He stated in 2002 "All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual orientation. While he does not support gay marriage, Mitt Romney believes domestic partnership status should be recognized in a way that includes the potential for health benefits and rights of survivorship."
He signed an Assault weapons ban into law...and voiced support for reinstating the federal ban.
And those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Now, deny it.
Let's hear it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Mitt_Romney#cite_note-108
I'm sorry. I thought this was 2012 not 1994. My mistake.
Now, if you want to talk about 2012 and the 2012 election and the platform he ran on, feel free.
There was a reason why both sides barely made a peep about Romney's time as governor. You know that, right?
If the Republican party would stick to it's traditional conservative agenda and quit pandering to the so called moderates, both inside and outside of the party.
It would attract far more people and basically crush the DNC on every issue and decisively win the national elections.
Pandering to social values and libertarian wings will continue to lose us elections. The dems will continue to win because the majority of Americans despise far right hatred.
If the Republican party would stick to it's traditional conservative agenda and quit pandering to the so called moderates, both inside and outside of the party.
It would attract far more people and basically crush the DNC on every issue and decisively win the national elections.
Pandering to social values and libertarian wings will continue to lose us elections. The dems will continue to win because the majority of Americans despise far right hatred.
If the Republican party would stick to it's traditional conservative agenda and quit pandering to the so called moderates, both inside and outside of the party.
It would attract far more people and basically crush the DNC on every issue and decisively win the national elections.
Juan McCain, staunch Libertarian
You need to work on your "I'm a Republican!!" Act
Pandering to social values and libertarian wings will continue to lose us elections. The dems will continue to win because the majority of Americans despise far right hatred.
If the Republican party would stick to it's traditional conservative agenda and quit pandering to the so called moderates, both inside and outside of the party.
It would attract far more people and basically crush the DNC on every issue and decisively win the national elections.
Juan McCain, staunch Libertarian
You need to work on your "I'm a Republican!!" Act
