The Religion of Peace….

AND YOU RELIGIONS ARE BASED ON EN
1. Communism, at its core, is a ‘death cult.’ Here, let Marx himself say so: “Everything that exists deserves to perish.” These were words were spoken by Goethe’s Mephistopheles, and quoted approvingly by Karl Marx. For a very long time now, Marxism in its guise of modern liberalism has worked toward the satanic goal of making everything that exists perish.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/13/41712.shtml

a. Death and destruction is the necessary precursor to building the new, perfect world, utopia on earth…his Potemkin Village. The rationalization is that the mass slaughter is not the goal, but merely represents the path to utopia.

2. Lenin’s movement spread quickly, in part “t was an emotional forcefulness that derived, ultimately, from the movement’s cheerful willingness to put Bolshevism’s enemies to death, and an equally cheerful willingness to put to death random crowds whose views on Bolshevism were utterly unknown, and a further willingness to pt to death the Bolsheviks themselves (no one has ever murdered more communists than the Communist Party of the Soviet Union), and a willingness to accept one’s own death, too- all for the best of reason.” Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 43.

3. While the fall of the Soviet Union was heartbreaking to the Left, but a new object of affection was just on the horizon” the totalist ideology of Islamism. In Iran, a brutal regime let loose rivers of blood in their attempt to purify humankind. Even better, the victory in Iran emboldened Islamic fanatics worldwide.


The election of Hussein Obama made both groups happy:
The Leftists had their totalitarian in place....

...and the Islamists, their co-religionist.

I thought we were talking about the 10 friggin commandments.

What's this all about?

I'm still thinking about how not to make a joke about #4. So as not to offend you... and get banned again...



You said they were evil and corrupt....then you back-tracked an said the Bible was based on earlier doctrines....but you failed to say those were evil and corrupt.


Nor did you respond to whether you are a government school grad.


I seem to have effortlessly put you in a box.

So....you're not that bright, and you are a hater.


What more is there to say?
Have you ever seen a thread here involving Islam where a leftist troll of very low IQ didn't try to turn it into a thread about Christianity or Judaism, instead?

I haven't .
 
AND YOU RELIGIONS ARE BASED ON EN
1. Communism, at its core, is a ‘death cult.’ Here, let Marx himself say so: “Everything that exists deserves to perish.” These were words were spoken by Goethe’s Mephistopheles, and quoted approvingly by Karl Marx. For a very long time now, Marxism in its guise of modern liberalism has worked toward the satanic goal of making everything that exists perish.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/8/13/41712.shtml

a. Death and destruction is the necessary precursor to building the new, perfect world, utopia on earth…his Potemkin Village. The rationalization is that the mass slaughter is not the goal, but merely represents the path to utopia.

2. Lenin’s movement spread quickly, in part “t was an emotional forcefulness that derived, ultimately, from the movement’s cheerful willingness to put Bolshevism’s enemies to death, and an equally cheerful willingness to put to death random crowds whose views on Bolshevism were utterly unknown, and a further willingness to pt to death the Bolsheviks themselves (no one has ever murdered more communists than the Communist Party of the Soviet Union), and a willingness to accept one’s own death, too- all for the best of reason.” Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 43.

3. While the fall of the Soviet Union was heartbreaking to the Left, but a new object of affection was just on the horizon” the totalist ideology of Islamism. In Iran, a brutal regime let loose rivers of blood in their attempt to purify humankind. Even better, the victory in Iran emboldened Islamic fanatics worldwide.


The election of Hussein Obama made both groups happy:
The Leftists had their totalitarian in place....

...and the Islamists, their co-religionist.

I thought we were talking about the 10 friggin commandments.

What's this all about?

I'm still thinking about how not to make a joke about #4. So as not to offend you... and get banned again...



You said they were evil and corrupt....then you back-tracked an said the Bible was based on earlier doctrines....but you failed to say those were evil and corrupt.


Nor did you respond to whether you are a government school grad.


I seem to have effortlessly put you in a box.

So....you're not that bright, and you are a hater.


What more is there to say?
Have you ever seen a thread here involving Islam where a leftist troll of very low IQ didn't try to turn it into a thread about Christianity or Judaism, instead?

I haven't .


Well, based on that....it appears I've proven my point.
 
On the topic of where Islam, in its current iteration as the 'Religion of Blood,' entered the world, it did so under the auspices of other totalitarian worldviews.


Some are tempted to see totalitarian ideologies- communism, fascism, Nazism- as being unrelated to Islamic fundamentalism, and, well....that would be a mistake.

...their particular yearning was for the Caliphate from the days of Muhammad. That was the Baathi “Renaissance.” This was fully in line with the twentieth century tradition.
From Sami al-Jundi, an early Baath (Renaissance) leader:
“We were racists, admiring Nazism, reading its books and the source of its thought, particularly Nietzsche…”
Arabs and Nazis - Can it Be True



This did not exclude other totalist influences.
“Saddam expressed his admiration for Stalin
on numerous occasions and describes him as not being a communist but a nationalist..”
http://thebrowser.com/recommended/saddam-secret-life-by-con-coughlin

This mix can be found in National Socialism and Mussolini’s Fascism, as well.


That's right: communism, fascism, Nazism, Baathism, ......siblings under the skin.




Muslim’s other grand radical movement, Islamists, might seem, at first, to be an exception, free of the European virus… as the Egyptian and Pakistani versions began as organs of peaceful political reform, i.e., the strictly religious Muslim Brotherhood, …but scratch the surface, and there is the sympathy for Nazism. The Young Egypt Society, the ‘Greenshirts,’ were openly Nazi, and Hassan al-Banna was not far behind.
http://74.39.184.126/vb/showthread.php?t=130932

The Brotherhood even had it’s units designated ‘kata’ib’ or phalanges, a la Franco.





BTW....know who was the greatest devotee of the Muslim Brotherhood???


Hussein Obama.
 
So wait PoliticalChic you were looking for Sanctuary and people cursed and attacked you? That'd because God ain't Here!
 
So wait PoliticalChic you were looking for Sanctuary and people cursed and attacked you? That'd because God ain't Here!

You're hearing those voices again?

Your posts are so disjointed, unrelated to the material you appear to imagine you are responding to, and lack any informational basis.

Perhaps you've notice that as the explanation for folks rolling their eyes when you attempt to converse with them.....it should be a hint to you.




Please don't interrupt my threads again....
 
Now that the connection between the Islamofascist movements with the European versions....communism, fascism, Nazism,....it behooves mention of Qutb.


Sayyid Qutb was the single most influential Islamist writer. His masterwork, “In the Shade of the Qur’an,” was a series of commentaries on the various suras,verses in the Q'ran: Most of the original 30 volumes (114 Surahs) were written (or re-written) while in prison following an attempted assassination of Egyptian leader Gamal Abdel Nasser in 1954.
Fi Zilal al-Quran - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Truth, according to Qutb, can only be obtained through active struggle. Again, this mirrors the Karl Korsch school of German Marxism, who argued that Marx’s dialectic can only be understood at certain moments in history, those of intense class struggle, during which the truth, i.e., the proletarian revolution becomes clear.


Qutb, two or three decades later, suggested that Koranic truth requires more than religious commitment, it requires revolutionary action on Islam’s behalf. Read between the lines, and you find the link between truth and martyrdom.


The suggestion of martyrdom can be found in one of his screeds against the Jews. “The Koran points to another contemptible characteristic of the Jews: their craven desire to live, no matter at what price and regardless of quality, honour, and dignity.”
Imam Zaid Shakir 8217 s Powerful Rebuttal Against Muslim Extremists Allahcentric



Seems fair to call Qutb's Islam the Religion of Blood.
 
Thanks for imminently dissuading converts on a standardly, Arabic-speaking religion.
 
Let's get down to what it's all about. Chic, what is your religion? I love your writing but it's obscure .

What are you trying to say with your religion?
 
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Let's get down to what it's all about. Chic, what is your religion? I love your writing but it's obscure .

What are you trying to say with your religion?

where does Chic cite his/her religion?. Seems to me that Chic is
making comments only on islam which is clearly not his/her religion
 
Let's get down to what it's all about. Chic, what is your religion? I love your writing but it's obscure .

What are you trying to say with your religion?


This is need-to-know stuff, and why sugarcoat it? You do not need to know.


I will say this:
1. We’ve built western civilization on two pillars: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively. Those who put those two ideas to judicious use, that life is more than materialism, pleasure and avoiding pain, then you are a product of Jerusalem and Athens. “If you believe that government has no right to intrude upon the exercise of your individual will, that you have a moral duty to be virtuous, that human beings are capable of bettering the world through the use of reason, you are a product of Jerusalem and Athens.” Ben Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History.”

2. And those societies that reject Jerusalem and Athens? “The USSR rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, substituting the values of the collective and a new utopian vision of ‘social justice’- and they starved and slaughtered tens of millions of human beings. The Nazis rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, and they shoved children into gas chambers. Venezuela rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, and the citizens of their oil-rich nation have been reduced to eating dogs.”


 
Let's get down to what it's all about. Chic, what is your religion? I love your writing but it's obscure .

What are you trying to say with your religion?

where does Chic cite his/her religion?. Seems to me that Chic is
making comments only on islam which is clearly not his/her religion
That was my point :)
 
Let's get down to what it's all about. Chic, what is your religion? I love your writing but it's obscure .

What are you trying to say with your religion?


This is need-to-know stuff, and why sugarcoat it? You do not need to know.


I will say this:
1. We’ve built western civilization on two pillars: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively. Those who put those two ideas to judicious use, that life is more than materialism, pleasure and avoiding pain, then you are a product of Jerusalem and Athens. “If you believe that government has no right to intrude upon the exercise of your individual will, that you have a moral duty to be virtuous, that human beings are capable of bettering the world through the use of reason, you are a product of Jerusalem and Athens.” Ben Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History.”

2. And those societies that reject Jerusalem and Athens? “The USSR rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, substituting the values of the collective and a new utopian vision of ‘social justice’- and they starved and slaughtered tens of millions of human beings. The Nazis rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, and they shoved children into gas chambers. Venezuela rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, and the citizens of their oil-rich nation have been reduced to eating dogs.”

Ok, I'm done with this. gl everybody!
 
Let's get down to what it's all about. Chic, what is your religion? I love your writing but it's obscure .

What are you trying to say with your religion?


This is need-to-know stuff, and why sugarcoat it? You do not need to know.


I will say this:
1. We’ve built western civilization on two pillars: God created every human in His image and human beings are able to investigate and make rational conclusions about the world. These two ideas were born in Jerusalem and Athens, respectively. Those who put those two ideas to judicious use, that life is more than materialism, pleasure and avoiding pain, then you are a product of Jerusalem and Athens. “If you believe that government has no right to intrude upon the exercise of your individual will, that you have a moral duty to be virtuous, that human beings are capable of bettering the world through the use of reason, you are a product of Jerusalem and Athens.” Ben Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History.”

2. And those societies that reject Jerusalem and Athens? “The USSR rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, substituting the values of the collective and a new utopian vision of ‘social justice’- and they starved and slaughtered tens of millions of human beings. The Nazis rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, and they shoved children into gas chambers. Venezuela rejected Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, and the citizens of their oil-rich nation have been reduced to eating dogs.”

Ok, I'm done with this. gl everybody!




You keep making that promise.


Stick to it.
 
…..or is it ‘The Religion of Blood’?




1.In his novel “Coup D’Etat,” Ben Coes writes

“The hardest lesson I had to teach my students at the madrasa was about the need for violent jihad,” said El-Khayab, staring at the window, despite his blindness. “That the violence was somehow necessary in order to create a world without violence. That Islam, the most beautiful and peaceful of religions, demanded that the blood of the infidel be spilled across the earth in order to wash away the filth of the past. The reason it was hard for me to teach this lesson was because I was hidden away, behind the stones and the ivy, the bricks and the windows and doors, within the comforting walls and sounds of the madrasa. It was the boys who had to go out in the world and sacrifice themselves. They were the ones who had to spill the blood on behalf of Allah.”



2.A pot-boiler….no more. Just fiction…..or, is it?

Those of us who are literate know that novelists, more often than not, do scrupulous research to bring their fiction as close to reality as possible.
And, it is possible to compare Coe’s fiction with real world events.


3.This week, in Canada, they held Quds Day…. “an annual event held on the last Friday of Ramadan that was initiated by the Islamic Republic of Iran in 1979 to express support for the Palestinians and oppose Zionism and Israel.”
Quds Day - Wikipedia

One celebrant made clear that he yearned of the day when Sharia was in force, and homosexuals could be executed.

“A protester at the Toronto Al Quds Day rally has said at some point, Sharia Law will replace Canadian Law …





Muslim protester warns, Sharia Law is coming and if that bothers Western nations, they should stop allowing us into their countries · Caldron Pool

Is this Muslim speaker a one-off? An outlier? A 'lone-wolf'?
Or is this view about Sharia and slaughter of those not of the faith, a major theme among the faithful?



Of course…..we in the West could simply deny the truth, put out head in the sand….



...or take heed.

Remember George Carlin? The Atheist comedian? Here's his take on Islam, the side of the popular comedian you don't see often:




Thanks for that.

There is a good chance that he is correct.....but not necessarily for the reasons he outlined.


1. The more literate and the more prosperous Muslim nations become, the fewer children they have.

Europe took 200 years to go from high fertility rates of rural life to the low fertility rates of the industrial world. Iran, Turkey, Tunisia, and Algeria are about to do it in twenty. It is the fastest population decline in recorded history.
  1. Hania Zlotnik, director of the population division at the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs, said “In most of the Islamic world it’s amazing, the decline in fertility that has happened,’’ … From 1975 to 1980, women in Iran were giving birth to nearly 7 children per family, according to the latest U.N. population report; from 2005 to 2010 that number is expected to be less than 2. U.N. Sees Falling Middle East Fertility Rates
  2. Iranian women who grew up with five or six siblings will bear only one or two children in their lifetimes.
  3. By mid-century, the belt of Muslim counties from Morocco to Iran will become as grey as depopulating Europe, and will have the same proportion of dependent elderly as the industrial I countries- but with one tenth the productivity!!

  1. After literacy, the next largest indicator of family size is religious practice. The more frequently Muslims attend mosque, the more likely they are to have a big family. A third of the 88% literate Turks never attend mosque, as is true of the 82% literate Iranians; in both countries fertility is below replacement. But only a fifth of Egyptians never visit a mosque, and fertility is up to about three.
    1. In nations such as Pakistan, Bangladesh and Egypt, worship is high, literacy low, fertility rates high, poverty high, unemployment high, social instability high.
    2. In nations such as Iran, Turkey, Tunisia, Algeria, there is a high degree of literacy, but face a more devastating degree of social failure in the form of a dearth of children.
1 Two exceptions to this demographic collapse are Israel and America in general and conservative Christians in particular. Evangelicals, both in America and globally, are demographically proliferate and are making converts at a rapid rate, as are Orthodox Catholics. (The Evangelical movement is the fasting growing religious movement in the world) These groups are major factors in the fact that America’s birthrate is still above replacement rate. Other than Israel, we are the only major developed country to have a birthrate above replacement rate. Secularists and mainline religious groups have a birthrate more in line with what we see in Europe. If this trend continues, the demographically proliferate groups will increase their proportion of the overall U.S. population and our birthrate will increase as well. The question is whether it will continue.



I recommend this book....

51Tv1Q9tFRL._SX336_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg





Seems Liberals/Democrats share a significant characteristic with the Neanderthals....


"Low fertility and the demise of the Neanderthals
The Neanderthals were the only human population living in Europe before the arrival of Homo sapiens, and why they died out has been debated for decades. A new study published in the journal Plos One suggests that the reason they are not around today could simply be the result of a slight decline in fertility.

Senior study author, Silvana Condemi, a paleoanthropologist at Aix-Marseille University in Marseille, France, told Live Science:

"The disappearance of the Neanderthal population is an exciting subject — imagine a human group that has lived for thousands of years and is very well-adapted to its environment, and then disappears.

…Very quickly, we found something unexpected — this disappearance, which occurred over a very long period, cannot be explained by a catastrophic event.”

The study concludes that a decrease in the fertility rate of young Neanderthal women could have had a significant impact on the population, and that this simple and non-catastrophic event is a plausible explanation for Neanderthal extinction. The Neanderthal population could have simply slowly and gradually decreased over time."

Low fertility and the demise of the Neanderthals



"Liberal Societies Have Dangerously Low Birth Rates"
Liberal Societies Have Dangerously Low Birth Rates







FB_neanderthal_2323_640_388_c1_c_c.jpg


Voting Biden or Bernie??????




Liberals aren't big breeders....or lookers, which might explain the former.
 
…..or is it ‘The Religion of Blood’?




1.In his novel “Coup D’Etat,” Ben Coes writes

“The hardest lesson I had to teach my students at the madrasa was about the need for violent jihad,” said El-Khayab, staring at the window, despite his blindness. “That the violence was somehow necessary in order to create a world without violence. That Islam, the most beautiful and peaceful of religions, demanded that the blood of the infidel be spilled across the earth in order to wash away the filth of the past. The reason it was hard for me to teach this lesson was because I was hidden away, behind the stones and the ivy, the bricks and the windows and doors, within the comforting walls and sounds of the madrasa. It was the boys who had to go out in the world and sacrifice themselves. They were the ones who had to spill the blood on behalf of Allah.”



2.A pot-boiler….no more. Just fiction…..or, is it?

Those of us who are literate know that novelists, more often than not, do scrupulous research to bring their fiction as close to reality as possible.
And, it is possible to compare Coe’s fiction with real world events.


3.This week, in Canada, they held Quds Day…. “an annual event held on the last Friday of Ramadan that was initiated by the Islamic Republic of Iran in 1979 to express support for the Palestinians and oppose Zionism and Israel.”
Quds Day - Wikipedia

One celebrant made clear that he yearned of the day when Sharia was in force, and homosexuals could be executed.

“A protester at the Toronto Al Quds Day rally has said at some point, Sharia Law will replace Canadian Law …





Muslim protester warns, Sharia Law is coming and if that bothers Western nations, they should stop allowing us into their countries · Caldron Pool

Is this Muslim speaker a one-off? An outlier? A 'lone-wolf'?
Or is this view about Sharia and slaughter of those not of the faith, a major theme among the faithful?



Of course…..we in the West could simply deny the truth, put out head in the sand….



...or take heed.

Remember George Carlin? The Atheist comedian? Here's his take on Islam, the side of the popular comedian you don't see often:




Thanks for that.

There is a good chance that he is correct.....but not necessarily for the reasons he outlined.


1. The more literate and the more prosperous Muslim nations become, the fewer children they have.

Europe took 200 years to go from high fertility rates of rural life to the low fertility rates of the industrial world. Iran, Turkey, Tunisia, and Algeria are about to do it in twenty. It is the fastest population decline in recorded history.
  1. Hania Zlotnik, director of the population division at the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs, said “In most of the Islamic world it’s amazing, the decline in fertility that has happened,’’ … From 1975 to 1980, women in Iran were giving birth to nearly 7 children per family, according to the latest U.N. population report; from 2005 to 2010 that number is expected to be less than 2. U.N. Sees Falling Middle East Fertility Rates
  2. Iranian women who grew up with five or six siblings will bear only one or two children in their lifetimes.
  3. By mid-century, the belt of Muslim counties from Morocco to Iran will become as grey as depopulating Europe, and will have the same proportion of dependent elderly as the industrial I countries- but with one tenth the productivity!!

  1. After literacy, the next largest indicator of family size is religious practice. The more frequently Muslims attend mosque, the more likely they are to have a big family. A third of the 88% literate Turks never attend mosque, as is true of the 82% literate Iranians; in both countries fertility is below replacement. But only a fifth of Egyptians never visit a mosque, and fertility is up to about three.
    1. In nations such as Pakistan, Bangladesh and Egypt, worship is high, literacy low, fertility rates high, poverty high, unemployment high, social instability high.
    2. In nations such as Iran, Turkey, Tunisia, Algeria, there is a high degree of literacy, but face a more devastating degree of social failure in the form of a dearth of children.
1 Two exceptions to this demographic collapse are Israel and America in general and conservative Christians in particular. Evangelicals, both in America and globally, are demographically proliferate and are making converts at a rapid rate, as are Orthodox Catholics. (The Evangelical movement is the fasting growing religious movement in the world) These groups are major factors in the fact that America’s birthrate is still above replacement rate. Other than Israel, we are the only major developed country to have a birthrate above replacement rate. Secularists and mainline religious groups have a birthrate more in line with what we see in Europe. If this trend continues, the demographically proliferate groups will increase their proportion of the overall U.S. population and our birthrate will increase as well. The question is whether it will continue.



I recommend this book....

51Tv1Q9tFRL._SX336_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg





Seems Liberals/Democrats share a significant characteristic with the Neanderthals....


"Low fertility and the demise of the Neanderthals
The Neanderthals were the only human population living in Europe before the arrival of Homo sapiens, and why they died out has been debated for decades. A new study published in the journal Plos One suggests that the reason they are not around today could simply be the result of a slight decline in fertility.

Senior study author, Silvana Condemi, a paleoanthropologist at Aix-Marseille University in Marseille, France, told Live Science:

"The disappearance of the Neanderthal population is an exciting subject — imagine a human group that has lived for thousands of years and is very well-adapted to its environment, and then disappears.

…Very quickly, we found something unexpected — this disappearance, which occurred over a very long period, cannot be explained by a catastrophic event.”

The study concludes that a decrease in the fertility rate of young Neanderthal women could have had a significant impact on the population, and that this simple and non-catastrophic event is a plausible explanation for Neanderthal extinction. The Neanderthal population could have simply slowly and gradually decreased over time."

Low fertility and the demise of the Neanderthals



"Liberal Societies Have Dangerously Low Birth Rates"
Liberal Societies Have Dangerously Low Birth Rates







FB_neanderthal_2323_640_388_c1_c_c.jpg


Voting Biden or Bernie??????




Liberals aren't big breeders....or lookers, which might explain the former.


They musta had low-T. But how is that part of the topic?
 
Neanderthals were able to interbreed with homo-sapiens.

Two different human species, living together, obviously looking different, and god created man in his image?

Which image was his?
 
Now, if you listen to what the Sumerians said about the Anunnaki, and how they created humans (AD.IM), things start to make sense.
 
Let's get down to what it's all about. Chic, what is your religion? I love your writing but it's obscure .

What are you trying to say with your religion?

where does Chic cite his/her religion?. Seems to me that Chic is
making comments only on islam which is clearly not his/her religion
That was my point :)

^ I think you are discussing very similar
already on your own Religions and Ethics thread RWS

You are trying to discuss your OWN beliefs about ETHICS
but keep trying to cite "other religions that are not yours"
 


I'm guessing he was a brainwashed hate filled religious fanatic.....probably either muslim or christian.....

a friend of yours?
 

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