The Real Rescue Story

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  1. Indiana Oracle
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    Indiana Oracle The Truth is Hard to Find

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    This appeared on the web and makes a lot of sense to me. The breathless accounts in the media regarding the thoughtful manliness of The Prophet did not click. You may have seen it. If not...

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    > Subject: FW: The real story of the stand off with the
    > Pirates
    >
    > FYI: BHO = Barak H. Obama
    >
    > ROE = Rules Of Engagement
    >
    > RIB = Rigid Inflatable Boat
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    > Rear Admiral Lou Sarosdy USN Ret. writes.....
    >
    > The real story of Obama's Decision Making
    > with the hostages.
    >
    > Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia
    > Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4
    > days, I got the following:
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    >
    > 1. BHO wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC
    > SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on
    > scene commander) recommendation.
    > 2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions
    > on their ROE that they couldn't do anything unless the
    > hostage's life was in "imminent" danger
    > 3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS
    > had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to
    > ROE restriction
    > 4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it
    > approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE
    > restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they
    > were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.
    > 5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans
    > developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams
    > 6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally
    > decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely
    > determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies
    > 7. BHO immediately claims credit for his
    > "daring and decisive" behaviour. As usual with
    > him, it's BS.
    >
    > Read the following accurate account.
    >
    > Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water
    > of the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out a s well. With the
    > Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy
    > possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison,
    > enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at
    > his captors — and none was taken.
    >
    > The guidance from National Command Authority —
    > the president of the United States ,
    > Barack Obama — had been clear: a peaceful
    > solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff
    > unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.
    >
    > The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the
    > floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates — and
    > again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was
    > again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel
    > thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from
    > Washington and a mandate
    > from the commander in chief’s staff not to act
    > until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such
    > issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any
    > outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be
    > acceptable.
    >
    > After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers
    > again Saturday night, the on scene commander decided he’d
    > had enough.
    >
    > Keeping his authority to act in the case of a
    > clear and present danger to the hostage’s
    > life and having heard nothing from Washington
    > since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had
    > been denied the day before, the Navy officer — unnamed in
    > all media reports to date — decided the AK47 one captor
    > had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the
    > hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their
    > shots.
    >
    > Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands
    > became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.
    >
    > There is upside, downside, and spinside to the
    > series of events over the last week that culminated in
    > yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.
    >
    > Almost immediately following word of the rescue,
    > the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory
    > against pirates in the Indian Ocean and declared that the
    > dramatic end to the standoff were the result of the
    > inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.
    >
    > Despite the Obama administration’s (and its
    > sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a
    > result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced
    > president, the reality is nothing of the sort.
    >
    > What should have been a standoff lasting only
    > hours — as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team
    > of NSWC operators to steam to the location — became an
    > embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag
    > handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.
    >
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    >
    > Bottom Line: It appears that Right Wing
    > Extremist Terrorists (once known as US Navy Seals) wiped out
    > the Potential Man-made Disaster Creators (formerly known as
    > Terrorists or Pirates) without any positive involvement of
    > the White House.
    >
    >
    > !
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    hmmm, i'm usually very skeptical of anything circulated by email
    will have to reserve judgement on this one till its either confirmed or refuted by other sources
     
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    Why even make a post when you can confirm or refute yourself. Maybe this will help.

    BLACKFIVE: How the rescue happened


    I hope that helps, I need to dig up the NRO article explaning a little of the mystery in regard to the legal documents and consultations with lawyers Obama had in regards to this eposode "Pirates and the Obama administration".
     
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    Fascinating.

    Once again though, any real follow up by the media regarding this will likely not happen.

    They are working diligently to protect Obama at all credibility cost.

    I am very curious to know if this is legit or not - as should anyone else - namely the media.

    Alas, that will likely not prove to be...
     
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    I'm posting the real reply right here.

    Whatever i say is real.

    And because i say it, it's the truth.

    And since you are listening to the truth, you must presume it is real.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    Global warming has caused Somalians to enter the waters and perform acts of piracy. That what Al Gore would say. Global warming caused Latrell Sprewell to turn down a 4-year $40 million contract because he had mouths to feed.
     
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    i didnt take the time to
    wasnt that big a deal for me anyway
     
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    Want to bet that if the rescue had gone poorly these very same sources would now be blaming Obama for the outcome?
     
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    Yep. True dat.

    Thing that makes me curious though......Bush Jr. fucked up for several years, and he got a pass most of the time, even when he invaded the wrong country.

    However......the next day BO makes a move, the GOP is all over his jock.
     

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