The Rarest Of Virtues

[PoliticalChic]

While gratitude is known as the most important of virtues, courage is the rarest.



1.One of the greatest of disappointments is the latest version of character of the British public. As noted by Melanie Phillips, none other than Sayed Qutb, a founder of violent Islamism, correctly criticizes British society, thus:

“…perception of Western decadence. British Muslims are overwhelmingly horrified and disgusted by the louche and dissolute behavior of a Britain that has torn up the notion of respectability. They observe the alcoholism, drug abuse and pornography, the breakdown of family life and the encouragement of promiscuity, and find themselves therefore in opposition to their host society's guiding values. What they are recoiling from, of course, is the breakdown of Western values. After a visit to the United States in 1948, Sayed Qutb wrote: "Humanity today is living in a large brothel!" Similarly, British Muslims have concluded that the society that expects them to identify with it is a moral cesspit. Is it any wonder, therefore, that they reject it?”

Muslims, therefore, have a religious duty to change Britain into an Islamic society.
And the British public, having abandoned their heritage, belief in their religion, and their backbone, are not willing to put up a strong resistance to same.



2. Well, not all Brits.

George Leonard Carey, Baron Carey of Clifton, the retired Anglican bishop who was the Archbishop of Canterbury, gave quite a speech on the subject of “Christianity and Islam,” "Christianity and Islam", Collision or Convergence - by George Carey | VirtueOnline – The Voice for Global Orthodox Anglicanism

“…wherever we look, Islam seems to be embroiled in conflict with other faiths and other cultures. It is in opposition to practically every other world religion- to Judaism in the Middle East; to Christianity in the West, in Nigeria, and in the Middle East; to Hinduism in India; to Buddhism, especially since the destruction of the Temples in Afghanistan.

We are presented therefore with a huge puzzle concerning Islam. Why is it associated with violence throughout the world?


Listen to Samuel Huntington, one of the most important voices in these matters in recent days. In 1993 he published a controversial essay entitled ‘The Clash of Civilisations’. His thesis was that the collapse of communism signalled the end of ideological battles of the political kind. Western capitalism was now dominant. The next battle he claimed will be the clash of cultures, with Islamic and Christian civilisations separating the world.

In 1997 he published a book of the same name, modifying the thesis but retaining the underlying argument that a clash between two great cultures was inevitable. In an extraordinary claim he insisted: “Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power”.

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

 

[Dekster]

Britain has far worse problems than pornography. They need to make housing income based and not market-rate based.

As for Islam, like every other religion, it is what people do with it when they wrap themselves in its blanket. Some will do good and some will do evil.

 

[JoeB131]

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

Again, they are doing what ANY other people would do when faced with foreign invasion.

The question is, why do we keep trying to carve out an empire among people who don't want us there.

 

[SweetSue92]

While gratitude is known as the most important of virtues, courage is the rarest.



1.One of the greatest of disappointments is the latest version of character of the British public. As noted by Melanie Phillips, none other than Sayed Qutb, a founder of violent Islamism, correctly criticizes British society, thus:

“…perception of Western decadence. British Muslims are overwhelmingly horrified and disgusted by the louche and dissolute behavior of a Britain that has torn up the notion of respectability. They observe the alcoholism, drug abuse and pornography, the breakdown of family life and the encouragement of promiscuity, and find themselves therefore in opposition to their host society's guiding values. What they are recoiling from, of course, is the breakdown of Western values. After a visit to the United States in 1948, Sayed Qutb wrote: "Humanity today is living in a large brothel!" Similarly, British Muslims have concluded that the society that expects them to identify with it is a moral cesspit. Is it any wonder, therefore, that they reject it?”

Muslims, therefore, have a religious duty to change Britain into an Islamic society.
And the British public, having abandoned their heritage, belief in their religion, and their backbone, are not willing to put up a strong resistance to same.



2. Well, not all Brits.

George Leonard Carey, Baron Carey of Clifton, the retired Anglican bishop who was the Archbishop of Canterbury, gave quite a speech on the subject of “Christianity and Islam,” "Christianity and Islam", Collision or Convergence - by George Carey | VirtueOnline – The Voice for Global Orthodox Anglicanism

“…wherever we look, Islam seems to be embroiled in conflict with other faiths and other cultures. It is in opposition to practically every other world religion- to Judaism in the Middle East; to Christianity in the West, in Nigeria, and in the Middle East; to Hinduism in India; to Buddhism, especially since the destruction of the Temples in Afghanistan.

We are presented therefore with a huge puzzle concerning Islam. Why is it associated with violence throughout the world?


Listen to Samuel Huntington, one of the most important voices in these matters in recent days. In 1993 he published a controversial essay entitled ‘The Clash of Civilisations’. His thesis was that the collapse of communism signalled the end of ideological battles of the political kind. Western capitalism was now dominant. The next battle he claimed will be the clash of cultures, with Islamic and Christian civilisations separating the world.

In 1997 he published a book of the same name, modifying the thesis but retaining the underlying argument that a clash between two great cultures was inevitable. In an extraordinary claim he insisted: “Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power”.

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

Really excellent food for thought--thanks for sharing. From this Christian's perspective, it will be a tough uphill climb for Islam to live alongside the West IF they plan to truly engage or share the culture.

Islam is a religion of works. Not drinking, not smoking, being modest, praying five times a day, not eating or eating--this is basically the fundamentals of their religion. So when Muslims seek to export their religion they want to see others engage in these behaviors. Not so for Christians: we are a religion of belief, not works. Sure, we don't want to see people out fornicating, taking drugs and etc, but we generally leave the judgment to God (or think we should at any rate).

How those two ever peacefully coincide?

???

 

[PoliticalChic]

Britain has far worse problems than pornography. They need to make housing income based and not market-rate based.

As for Islam, like every other religion, it is what people do with it when they wrap themselves in its blanket. Some will do good and some will do evil.

Actually, Islam is not at all like a religion.



"As for Islam, like every other religion...Some will do good and some will do evil."

It is early in the day, but this will be one of the dumbest comment that will come up.




"We believe in freedom of religion insofar as a religion teaches peace and love and the brotherhood of man. When someone uses the concept of religion to dominate other religions through force and coercion or to take over a nation, they you have to say, "My friend, that's not a religion." Michael Savage


Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Jr. (Ret.), the former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet,".... until you recognize that Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it. And as far as a strategy – let me just conclude one thing, as I just had in my latest op-ed -- the Obama Administration has a strategy.”

“It’s very simple, any thinking American should be able to grasp,” said the admiral. “It’s anti-American, anti-Western, it’s pro-Islamic, it’s pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood!” Admiral Lyons on Obama’s Strategy: ‘It’s Anti-American ... Pro-Islamic, It’s Pro-Iranian, and Pro-Muslim Brotherhood!’




Christians and Jews....the more devout, the less violent. Not so with Islam. Bill Donohue




the only 'religion' that Barack Hussein Obama has stood up for, shielded from criticism, defended and advanced?

.... this is associated more with Islam and not with any other 'religion:'Pederasty, child brides, honor killings, clitorectomies, stonings, wife beatings and blowing up every innocent they can find.

 

[PoliticalChic]

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

Again, they are doing what ANY other people would do when faced with foreign invasion.

The question is, why do we keep trying to carve out an empire among people who don't want us there.

The answer is here......for when you learn to read.

 

[PoliticalChic]

While gratitude is known as the most important of virtues, courage is the rarest.



1.One of the greatest of disappointments is the latest version of character of the British public. As noted by Melanie Phillips, none other than Sayed Qutb, a founder of violent Islamism, correctly criticizes British society, thus:

“…perception of Western decadence. British Muslims are overwhelmingly horrified and disgusted by the louche and dissolute behavior of a Britain that has torn up the notion of respectability. They observe the alcoholism, drug abuse and pornography, the breakdown of family life and the encouragement of promiscuity, and find themselves therefore in opposition to their host society's guiding values. What they are recoiling from, of course, is the breakdown of Western values. After a visit to the United States in 1948, Sayed Qutb wrote: "Humanity today is living in a large brothel!" Similarly, British Muslims have concluded that the society that expects them to identify with it is a moral cesspit. Is it any wonder, therefore, that they reject it?”

Muslims, therefore, have a religious duty to change Britain into an Islamic society.
And the British public, having abandoned their heritage, belief in their religion, and their backbone, are not willing to put up a strong resistance to same.



2. Well, not all Brits.

George Leonard Carey, Baron Carey of Clifton, the retired Anglican bishop who was the Archbishop of Canterbury, gave quite a speech on the subject of “Christianity and Islam,” "Christianity and Islam", Collision or Convergence - by George Carey | VirtueOnline – The Voice for Global Orthodox Anglicanism

“…wherever we look, Islam seems to be embroiled in conflict with other faiths and other cultures. It is in opposition to practically every other world religion- to Judaism in the Middle East; to Christianity in the West, in Nigeria, and in the Middle East; to Hinduism in India; to Buddhism, especially since the destruction of the Temples in Afghanistan.

We are presented therefore with a huge puzzle concerning Islam. Why is it associated with violence throughout the world?


Listen to Samuel Huntington, one of the most important voices in these matters in recent days. In 1993 he published a controversial essay entitled ‘The Clash of Civilisations’. His thesis was that the collapse of communism signalled the end of ideological battles of the political kind. Western capitalism was now dominant. The next battle he claimed will be the clash of cultures, with Islamic and Christian civilisations separating the world.

In 1997 he published a book of the same name, modifying the thesis but retaining the underlying argument that a clash between two great cultures was inevitable. In an extraordinary claim he insisted: “Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power”.

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

Really excellent food for thought--thanks for sharing. From this Christian's perspective, it will be a tough uphill climb for Islam to live alongside the West IF they plan to truly engage or share the culture.

Islam is a religion of works. Not drinking, not smoking, being modest, praying five times a day, not eating or eating--this is basically the fundamentals of their religion. So when Muslims seek to export their religion they want to see others engage in these behaviors. Not so for Christians: we are a religion of belief, not works. Sure, we don't want to see people out fornicating, taking drugs and etc, but we generally leave the judgment to God (or think we should at any rate).

How those two ever peacefully coincide?

???

Thank you, sis....

I hope you have time for the 3-4 more posts I plan for this thread.

 

[Votto]

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

Again, they are doing what ANY other people would do when faced with foreign invasion.

The question is, why do we keep trying to carve out an empire among people who don't want us there.

Because we needed to save Libya damn it!

 

[Marion Morrison]

While gratitude is known as the most important of virtues, courage is the rarest.



1.One of the greatest of disappointments is the latest version of character of the British public. As noted by Melanie Phillips, none other than Sayed Qutb, a founder of violent Islamism, correctly criticizes British society, thus:

“…perception of Western decadence. British Muslims are overwhelmingly horrified and disgusted by the louche and dissolute behavior of a Britain that has torn up the notion of respectability. They observe the alcoholism, drug abuse and pornography, the breakdown of family life and the encouragement of promiscuity, and find themselves therefore in opposition to their host society's guiding values. What they are recoiling from, of course, is the breakdown of Western values. After a visit to the United States in 1948, Sayed Qutb wrote: "Humanity today is living in a large brothel!" Similarly, British Muslims have concluded that the society that expects them to identify with it is a moral cesspit. Is it any wonder, therefore, that they reject it?”

Muslims, therefore, have a religious duty to change Britain into an Islamic society.
And the British public, having abandoned their heritage, belief in their religion, and their backbone, are not willing to put up a strong resistance to same.



2. Well, not all Brits.

George Leonard Carey, Baron Carey of Clifton, the retired Anglican bishop who was the Archbishop of Canterbury, gave quite a speech on the subject of “Christianity and Islam,” "Christianity and Islam", Collision or Convergence - by George Carey | VirtueOnline – The Voice for Global Orthodox Anglicanism

“…wherever we look, Islam seems to be embroiled in conflict with other faiths and other cultures. It is in opposition to practically every other world religion- to Judaism in the Middle East; to Christianity in the West, in Nigeria, and in the Middle East; to Hinduism in India; to Buddhism, especially since the destruction of the Temples in Afghanistan.

We are presented therefore with a huge puzzle concerning Islam. Why is it associated with violence throughout the world?


Listen to Samuel Huntington, one of the most important voices in these matters in recent days. In 1993 he published a controversial essay entitled ‘The Clash of Civilisations’. His thesis was that the collapse of communism signalled the end of ideological battles of the political kind. Western capitalism was now dominant. The next battle he claimed will be the clash of cultures, with Islamic and Christian civilisations separating the world.

In 1997 he published a book of the same name, modifying the thesis but retaining the underlying argument that a clash between two great cultures was inevitable. In an extraordinary claim he insisted: “Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power”.

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

So is that why the Muslims run pedophile sex-slave gangs over there?

 

[PoliticalChic]

3. “Apart from such well-known clashes, adherents of all three world religions were able to live in peace, even though the cost of it for many Christians and Jews in some lands was to accept the position as ‘protected’ (Dhimmi) citizens and pay a corresponding tax

1967, however, is viewed by many as a turning point in the minds of many Muslims. In that year the Arab nations- Syria, Egypt and Jordan – mounted a surprise attack against Israel and were humiliated in battle. Great swathes of Arab land were taken, Sinai, Gaza and the Golan Heights in particular. From 1967 onwards Muslims began to analyse the reasons for their defeat at the hands of the Israelis.

That event, scorched in their memories proved to be a turning point. Many concluded that a return to the simplicity of Islamic faith and wholehearted adherence to the Koran was necessary. To follow the West and to emulate its ways seemed to be the road to decadence and moral decline. From this period on reform and renewal movements begin to appear in Islam which in spite of different emphases have one common aim, that is, to restore greatness to Islam…. radical movements are one in their desire to re-Islamise Muslim societies and fight the encroaching secularism and materialism that they see coming from the West.” "Christianity and Islam", Collision or Convergence - by George Carey | VirtueOnline – The Voice for Global Orthodox Anglicanism




It is perhaps no surprise that Lord Carey, an evangelical with a very strong belief in the truth of Scripture, takes such a clear moral view. In stark contrast, the current archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Williams, has responded to Islamist terrorism with repeated examples of moral equivalence and appeasement.

And….take note of the Democrat Party’s bowing to anti-Semitism…..it is beyond appeasement.....it is abject surrender.

 

[PoliticalChic]

While gratitude is known as the most important of virtues, courage is the rarest.



1.One of the greatest of disappointments is the latest version of character of the British public. As noted by Melanie Phillips, none other than Sayed Qutb, a founder of violent Islamism, correctly criticizes British society, thus:

“…perception of Western decadence. British Muslims are overwhelmingly horrified and disgusted by the louche and dissolute behavior of a Britain that has torn up the notion of respectability. They observe the alcoholism, drug abuse and pornography, the breakdown of family life and the encouragement of promiscuity, and find themselves therefore in opposition to their host society's guiding values. What they are recoiling from, of course, is the breakdown of Western values. After a visit to the United States in 1948, Sayed Qutb wrote: "Humanity today is living in a large brothel!" Similarly, British Muslims have concluded that the society that expects them to identify with it is a moral cesspit. Is it any wonder, therefore, that they reject it?”

Muslims, therefore, have a religious duty to change Britain into an Islamic society.
And the British public, having abandoned their heritage, belief in their religion, and their backbone, are not willing to put up a strong resistance to same.



2. Well, not all Brits.

George Leonard Carey, Baron Carey of Clifton, the retired Anglican bishop who was the Archbishop of Canterbury, gave quite a speech on the subject of “Christianity and Islam,” "Christianity and Islam", Collision or Convergence - by George Carey | VirtueOnline – The Voice for Global Orthodox Anglicanism

“…wherever we look, Islam seems to be embroiled in conflict with other faiths and other cultures. It is in opposition to practically every other world religion- to Judaism in the Middle East; to Christianity in the West, in Nigeria, and in the Middle East; to Hinduism in India; to Buddhism, especially since the destruction of the Temples in Afghanistan.

We are presented therefore with a huge puzzle concerning Islam. Why is it associated with violence throughout the world?


Listen to Samuel Huntington, one of the most important voices in these matters in recent days. In 1993 he published a controversial essay entitled ‘The Clash of Civilisations’. His thesis was that the collapse of communism signalled the end of ideological battles of the political kind. Western capitalism was now dominant. The next battle he claimed will be the clash of cultures, with Islamic and Christian civilisations separating the world.

In 1997 he published a book of the same name, modifying the thesis but retaining the underlying argument that a clash between two great cultures was inevitable. In an extraordinary claim he insisted: “Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power”.

What are the reasons for Islam’s association with terrorism and death?”


Is it possible for Islam to change?

So is that why the Muslims run pedophile sex-slave gangs over there?

Let me say, MM, that I have an answer to that question.

I thought about posting it today, but have a pal on the board who is a fine American....but Muslim....and have been holding off on....toning down what I believe about Islam.

Perhaps one day I'll post it.

 

[Dekster]

Britain has far worse problems than pornography. They need to make housing income based and not market-rate based.

As for Islam, like every other religion, it is what people do with it when they wrap themselves in its blanket. Some will do good and some will do evil.

Actually, Islam is not at all like a religion at all.



"As for Islam, like every other religion...Some will do good and some will do evil."

It is early in the day, but this will be one of the dumbest comment that will come up.




"We believe in freedom of religion insofar as a religion teaches peace and love and the brotherhood of man. When someone uses the concept of religion to dominate other religions through force and coercion or to take over a nation, they you have to say, "My friend, that's not a religion." Michael Savage


Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Jr. (Ret.), the former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet,".... until you recognize that Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it. And as far as a strategy – let me just conclude one thing, as I just had in my latest op-ed -- the Obama Administration has a strategy.”

“It’s very simple, any thinking American should be able to grasp,” said the admiral. “It’s anti-American, anti-Western, it’s pro-Islamic, it’s pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood!” Admiral Lyons on Obama’s Strategy: ‘It’s Anti-American ... Pro-Islamic, It’s Pro-Iranian, and Pro-Muslim Brotherhood!’




Christians and Jews....the more devout, the less violent. Not so with Islam. Bill Donohue




the only 'religion' that Barack Hussein Obama has stood up for, shielded from criticism, defended and advanced?

.... this is associated more with Islam and not with any other 'religion:'Pederasty, child brides, honor killings, clitorectomies, stonings, wife beatings and blowing up every innocent they can find.

You are right, yours is one of the dumbest comments that will come up. We would all be dead if your perceived reality were anything other than a delusion. They outnumber us. They outnumber pretty much every demographic you can find, including the entire country of China.

 

[alang1216]

What they are recoiling from, of course, is the breakdown of Western values.

What do you have against Western values?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Britain has far worse problems than pornography. They need to make housing income based and not market-rate based.

As for Islam, like every other religion, it is what people do with it when they wrap themselves in its blanket. Some will do good and some will do evil.

Actually, Islam is not at all like a religion at all.



"As for Islam, like every other religion...Some will do good and some will do evil."

It is early in the day, but this will be one of the dumbest comment that will come up.




"We believe in freedom of religion insofar as a religion teaches peace and love and the brotherhood of man. When someone uses the concept of religion to dominate other religions through force and coercion or to take over a nation, they you have to say, "My friend, that's not a religion." Michael Savage


Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Jr. (Ret.), the former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet,".... until you recognize that Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it. And as far as a strategy – let me just conclude one thing, as I just had in my latest op-ed -- the Obama Administration has a strategy.”

“It’s very simple, any thinking American should be able to grasp,” said the admiral. “It’s anti-American, anti-Western, it’s pro-Islamic, it’s pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood!” Admiral Lyons on Obama’s Strategy: ‘It’s Anti-American ... Pro-Islamic, It’s Pro-Iranian, and Pro-Muslim Brotherhood!’




Christians and Jews....the more devout, the less violent. Not so with Islam. Bill Donohue




the only 'religion' that Barack Hussein Obama has stood up for, shielded from criticism, defended and advanced?

.... this is associated more with Islam and not with any other 'religion:'Pederasty, child brides, honor killings, clitorectomies, stonings, wife beatings and blowing up every innocent they can find.

You are right, yours is one of the dumbest comments that will come up. We would all be dead if your perceived reality were anything other than a delusion. They outnumber us. They outnumber pretty much every demographic you can find, including the entire country of China.

"You are right"

Your post should have ended right there.


See if this helps:


40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fileid=20060728.@03 https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/violence-in-defense-of-islam-statistics/


Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
Muslim Opinion Polls


*much more here:

Muslim Opinion Polls


Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined. Muslim Opinion Polls




Still, we need only look to the many polls to affirm the alarmingly high percentages of Muslims (hundreds-of-millions in number) who seek, through the most violent means imaginable, Islamic world domination. Again, here are but a few:

· 83 percent of Palestinian Muslims, 62 percent of Jordanians and 61 percent of Egyptians approve of jihadist attacks on Americans. World Public Opinion Poll(2009).

· 1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half their total population. ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015.

· Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians. Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015).

· 38.6 percent of Western Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified. Gallup(2011).

· 45 percent of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam.” BBC Radio (2015).

· 38 percent of Muslim-Americans say Islamic State (ISIS) beliefs are Islamic or correct. (Forty-three percent disagree.) The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

· One-third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam. Center for Social Cohesion (Wikileaks cable).

· 78 percent of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons. NOP Research.

· 80 percent of young Dutch Muslims see nothing wrong with holy war against non-believers. Most verbalized support for pro-Islamic State fighters. Motivaction Survey (2014).

· Nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Quran is acceptable. The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

· 68 percent of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam. NOP Research.

· 51 percent of Muslim-Americans say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by Shariah courts rather than courts of the United States (only 39 percent disagree).The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

· 81 percent of Muslim respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS). Al-Jazeerapoll (2015).

Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and the moderate Muslim: Even as we hear of the occasional sighting, most reasonable people remain skeptical as to whether, in reality, these mysterious creatures even exist.

Myth of the ‘Moderate Muslim’




Take the blinders off, you dunce.

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. “J.A.Williams makes a distinction between ‘revivalists’ whose aim is to help Muslims return to the fundamentals of Islamic faith and ‘radical activists’, who encourage a fight against infidels. It is more accurate to call radical activists, whose creed calls them to bring about revolution through violence, what they are – terrorists.


…we have to look to Saudi Arabia, the heartland of Islam, to trace one of the major sources of radical Islamic thought. Two hundred years ago a Reform movement had swept through Saudi Arabia through the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. Uniting with Muhammad Ibn Saud, a powerful chief, Mohammed ibn Abd al-Wahhab subdued other tribes and imposed what Prof. John Esposito has described ‘ a puritanical form of Islam’ on the people.


We should note that Wahhabi puritanism deemed it belonged to the purity of faith to destroy the sacred tombs of Mohammed and his companions in Mecca and Medina. Today, it is the Wahhabi form of Islam that is being exported to other countries and communities in Muslim lands. Its intolerant and tyrannical beliefs lend themselves to young impressionable minds searching for certainties."


Wahhab fundamentalism combined with the discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia that made the global conflict possible.

Democrat Jimmy Carter, installing the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran was the catalyst.

 

[Street Juice]

Christians and Jews....the more devout, the less violent. Not so with Islam. Bill Donohue

Neither so with Judaism

 

[PoliticalChic]

Christians and Jews....the more devout, the less violent. Not so with Islam. Bill Donohue

Neither so with Judaism

Articulate your point.

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. “…Muslims in such movements as the World Islamic Front and the Muslim Brotherhood, the world was now divided into a veritable ‘house of Islam’ and ‘house of war’. For bin Laden and militants ‘Jihad’ now had only one meaning- a struggle to death for the soul of Islam.

On Sept 11th 2001 the World Islamic Front struck through dedicated young men who were prepared to die with the Koran at their side shouting ‘Allah is great!’ guiding huge planes to destroy the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. With them died many hundreds of others who were going about their lawful and good business. Further atrocities were to follow. A few days after Sept 11th, in Indonesia, 120 Muslim troops struck at a village of Chinese and Christian people at dawn shouting ‘Allah is great!’ killing the men and raping any women they could find. A year after September 11th 2001 came the murder of many hundreds of innocent, fun loving people in Bali, Indonesia. Madrid is but another awful episode in the unfolding drama of Islamic terrorism.

…the question comes with greater insistence: Is not Islam being manipulated by evil and misguided men, not only destabilising our world, but also discrediting Islam itself?

Former President Wahid of Indonesia who chaired a conference in Amman when I was speaker at the Conference on Religion and Peace expressed similar worries: ‘The Muslim world is at a cross-roads. It may pursue a traditional static Islam or refashion it into a more dynamic and pluralistic world-view’.”




Demand a reformation….NOW.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. “… theological Islam is being challenged too, to become more open to examination and criticism. Christianity and Judaism have had a long history of critical scholarship which, we must admit and acknowledge, has not been without its pain, but there have been great gains also. In the case of Islam, Mohammed, acknowledged by all in spite of his religious greatness, to be illiterate man, is said to have received God’s word direct, word by word, from angels and scribes who recorded them later.


Thus, believers are told, because they have come direct from Allah they are not to be questioned or revised. As it happens, in the first few centuries of the Islamic era, Islamic theologians sought to meet the challenge this implied, but during the past five hundred years critical scholarship has declined leading to strong resistance to modernity.


Sadly, apart from a few courageous examples, very few Muslim leaders condemn, clearly and unconditionally, the evil of suicide bombers who kill innocent people. We need to hear outright condemnation of theologies that state that suicide bombers are ‘martyrs’ and enter a martyrs reward. We need to hear Muslims expressing their outrage and condemning such evil.” Lord Carey

 

[JoeB131]

Really excellent food for thought--thanks for sharing. From this Christian's perspective, it will be a tough uphill climb for Islam to live alongside the West IF they plan to truly engage or share the culture.

How those two ever peacefully coincide?

Here's how we peacefully co-exist with them. We don't invade their countries, we don't support a bunch of European Jews trying to colonize their land, we don't prop up one petty dictator after another to keep the oil flowing.

Here's how we get "Peace in our Time". We have mandatory draft of rich people's kids and politicians' kids. We put them in an Super Elite Airborne Unit that will be the first deployed to the region the next time we feel a bit of "Nation Building" coming on.

My guess, if they get sent instead of the poor working class kids looking for an education... we'd find ways to "peacefully coincide", also known as "Minding our own business."