The pros and cons of armed guards in schools.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by AmyNation, Dec 18, 2012.

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Armed Guards?

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  1. Great idea!

    38.5%
  2. It's a start but we need to do more

    7.7%
  3. A chicken in every pot, a gun in every hand!

    7.7%
  4. Bad idea!

    23.1%
  5. Ban guns!

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  6. Other

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  1. AmyNation
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    Disclaimer, the is KG's idea. I thought it was interesting and warrants a discussion, but she doesn't really want to talk about it.

    Poll to follow.


    I figure it will cost around 7-8 billion a year( thats really the low end) to keep and maintain armed guards in K-12 public schools.

    The risks that ive so far thought of are

    the guard being disarmed and someone using his gun to shoot up the school
    an accident with the guards gun
    an over zealous guard shooting a student during an altercation

    The pro being that armed guards will be in the school at all times and able to defend the students from the kind of attack we have seen.

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    Good idea/bad idea and why
    Should it be a ferdeal or state issue
    Who should pay for it
     
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    I don't see the federal gov't stepping in, this should be a state/local issue with solutions specific to the local needs. I'd have a couple of armed security people, one on the inside monitoring cameras that surround the school especially at the exits. The other on the outside stopping and checking people before they get into the school. That right there could cut down on school attacks.

    First sign of trouble, the cops get instantly notified and the classrooms get locked down. Maybe the bad guy never gets into the building in the first place. If it was me I'd deny any visitor access to the buildings where the kids are, the admin offices should be located elsewhere. If a parent or guardian wants to see a kid, the kid comes to them.
     
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    Pro: There's someone to shoot back.

    Con: Any potential shooter would probably be able to readily identify that person.
     
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    While I'd prefer it to be a state issue only, the con of that is states are already strapped for cash, and many don't have the money to hire and maintain armed guards.

    Your idea of adding cameras, revamping buildings and exits, is a valid one, but it will cost trillions.

    Perhaps we should change the model we build schools with, and look to a more secure model instead of the traditional one.
     
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    True.

    Also, if the shooter is a student, they would already have easy access and could smuggle a gun in.
     
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    According to those that feel schools are targets because of no guns being there, I'd have to assume that this would just drive a potential murderer somewhere else.
     
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    Oh for christ's sake, arming the teachers now?

    I hope you all realize how ridiculous this premise is.

    America becomes a caricature of itself with every passing moment if this is supposed to warrant a serious discussion.

    What stopped the terrorists attacks after 9/11 wasn't putting air marshalls on airplanes or giving guns to pilots. It was disrupting the cash flow and making it financially unfeasible to attack America again. Do that with the manufacturing of semi-automatics and assault weapons and we won't need to arm a 1st grade teacher or put security guards in the hallways.
     
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    Like the mall shooter?

    That's probably true, someone who wants to kill as many people as possible will just take their crazy somewhere else, although I don't think thats a reason to not protect children.
     
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    Putting our militarized police inside a school is very Third World.

    Besides, there are thousands of other soft targets. You going to have cops wall to wall across America?

    If you like, make classroom doors like an aircraft cockpit door. Bulletproof and unable to be kicked in. And put a back door in each classroom. A simple change to building codes for all schools henceforth.

    All that's cheaper than cops.

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    Revamping entrances to have double security doors is cheaper that armed guards in the long run too.
     

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