Ravi
Diamond Member
Yep, they need to milk it because once this dies down and everyone sees how corrupt she is only the fundies will be dumb enough to get fooled again.
Fred Thompson? heh
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Yep, they need to milk it because once this dies down and everyone sees how corrupt she is only the fundies will be dumb enough to get fooled again.
why dont you do the research? you need to back your claims, after all. not about bobo, but those with undesirable traits being forced to have abortions rather than procreate.
well you're continued use of abortion as a political tool gave me reason to suspect that you were against abortion. my apologies
what is a safe haven law? is there were the man's rights as the father have as much weight as the woman's who is carrying the child in question?
are we to believe that McCain had her vetted over five months ago and only felt it necessary to meet her in person one time, back in February? and reports are coming out now that indicate Palin advised McCain's attorney of the pregnancy during questioning and yet again, she was chosen over more qualified candidates who wouldn't have what could be seen by some as a personal issue that needs her full attention.
I don't think anyone has said the GOP planned the pregnancy itself. I do think the GOP planned to use it to their advantage however.
I agree, this is a non-issue, as long as the GOP and McCain campaign do not attempt to use it as a campaign tool.
I disagree that this is the type of thing that is impossible to prevent. Sarah Palin presents herself as a strong independent free thinking woman. She herself was pregnant. Why wasn't Bristol on birth control? It's clear she knew how pregnancy happened, her own mother was about to have a child. It let's the parent off the hook IMO to say it's impossible to prevent. that's like saying HIV/AIDS is impossible to prevent, that's a lie.... there are few things in this world that are IMPOSSIBLE to prevent and teen pregnancy certainly isn't one of them.
you make it sound like a fairytale and it's clearly not.
"the pregnancy announcement was by design!" Damn that can be tough, to think they knew the night of conception and figured it all out. Sorry, but let's all forget the daughter's stupid mistake, it's her fool mother that could be president one day. The acorn doesn't fall very far from the tree though. Sorry again, I had to say that. LOL
That's right. Memo to self: Don't have sex with women if you don't want to potentially father a child with them. Keep it in your pants. It's the way of the world, bucko, and the way it's always been...you father a child, that child's yours to have, hold, and support till death do you part..
The safe haven laws are essentially a load of crap. You abandon a baby in the US, they're going to charge you with something. Particularly if any harm comes to the child between the time of dropping it off and it being found.
Which is why not many women actually do this. Good luck just "dropping off" a little bundle at a fire station, hospital or wherever without being seen and questioned
Indeed, voting for Palin despite her failures as a parent and her political platform IS a vote for enabling pre-marital sex despite the rhetoric. It's like voting against homosexuality while fishing for some dick in a restroom.. uh, not that the GOP has any experienc... er....
And yes, if you are going to tow a line and insist that everyone else meet your moral stnadard then you'd better be goddamn ready to live by your own rules. Ask Jimmy Swaggart all about that...
It;s funny how "nobody's perfect" when YOUR kind is busy getting busted for exactly the behaviour you'd otherwise insist can be head off with an abstinence only program... FUNNY how that works.
Exactly why I tell my son to never trust a woman when it comes to birth control. hell that goes for any man; even married men. If you do not want to have a child, do not trust any woman to respect your wishes.
http://http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/safehaven.cfm
Many State legislatures have enacted legislation to address infant abandonment and infanticide in response to a reported increase in the abandonment of infants. Beginning in Texas in 1999, "Baby Moses laws" or infant safe haven laws have been enacted as an incentive for mothers in crisis to safely relinquish their babies to designated locations where the babies are protected and provided with medical care until a permanent home is found. Safe haven laws generally allow the parent, or an agent of the parent, to remain anonymous and to be shielded from prosecution for abandonment or neglect in exchange for surrendering the baby to a safe haven.
http://www.ncsconline.org/WC/Publications/KIS_Adopt_Trends03Haven.pdf
Caseloads Involving Infant Abandonment: It is not clear how many infants are abandoned each year. In 1998 mothers abandoned as many as 31,000 children at hospitals in the United States.6 Although states are "required to submit data to the United States Department of Health and Human Services on the number of children who enter foster care as a result of abandonment in general," national statistics on the number of infants discarded in places other than hospitals have not traditionally been collected.7 However, in 1999, Texas alone reported over 800 abandoned babies, of which nearly 50 were placed in trash dumpsters.8
I would not cal the at least 31000 babies abandoned in 1998 alone proof that "hardly anyone" seeks protection under safe haven laws.
Fiddlesticks. Kids are kids. I said things in my 20s that I can't imagine myself saying now, and that was in my 20s.
There's a reason we should be telling them to NOT HAVE SEX in the first place, the little retards.
As it stands, I imagine mom will probably raise the kid for the most part, the kids will go to college and it will be the standard arrangement where mom and dad raise the child and the real mother is sort of like a very close sibling or aunt, with the relationship possibly changing a little as they age. The Palins have a little one, this isn't going to be a huge thing to them.
It isn't like this girl is going to have to drop out of school and go to work at McDonald's.
As for them not wanting kids, as I've said before, if that was a recipe for disaster then 2/3 of the world's population would have had a terrible upbringing. My sister didn't want kids at one point. She had two eventually and was a wonderful mother. My son was adamant at 17 that he didn't want any....he's 23 now, with one little girl he dotes on and he wants a million more (his wife is a little more reticent). I wanted 10 kids, ended up with 4.
What we say we want doesn't preclude us from completely changing our minds 10 minutes later, or just growing up and getting a different outlook.
It isn't that big a deal, folks. She'll have the baby, she'll go to school, she'll be just like thousands of other kids in big families who get pregnant a little ahead of schedule.
huh, did you see on tv today McCain embracing the girl's boyfriend? McCain is really milking this for everything he can and I can't understand it. It's sickening. There must be something else about Palin they don't want us to know, cause he's obviously using this girl and her boyfriend as the central message of his campaign this week.so mommy is going to take care of the kid while daughter and redneck get to live a responsibility-free life, even though they both made the conscious decision to dabble in unprotected sex and are going to keep the child.
Sounds like a liberal's dream.
I say the two idiots forgo college for now and take care of their fucking love-child, and learn what being an adult is all about.
huh, did you see on tv today McCain embracing the girl's boyfriend? McCain is really milking this for everything he can and I can't understand it. It's sickening. There must be something else about Palin they don't want us to know, cause he's obviously using this girl and her boyfriend as the central message of his campaign this week.
Good point.Rav i've been watching all I can. On the surface I really like Palin besides the evangelical thing, but I'm certain there's more to her that we aren't supposed to know. Just for the simple fact that REAL mavericks don't get showered with this much love from the establishment. It just doesn't happen. You don't get to the top, especially that fast, without selling your soul somewhere along the way.
The republicans are letting themselves get played by her the same way dems are getting played by Obama. Every election, voters lose their minds and forget the other 3.5 years when they couldn't say it enough that "all politicians are scum". When it comes time to vote, all bets are off and it becomes a sporting event.