The only way to explain the inherent value of human life is to resort to religious arguments...

[BreezeWood]

...that's why we are losing the argument on abortion, assisted suicide and euthanasia, is because too many people can no longer be reached by religious arguments.

The quandary is this, only if there is a God who created human life in his own image, is human life precious, so that killing of innocent human life is always wrong.

If one does not believe in God, then human life has no inherent value, and killing innocent human life can be justified when it is convenient.

The only way to win the argument on abortion/assisted suicide/euthanasia is to convince enough people that God exists.

The rise of evil being acceptable in society is because Christians have been brainwashed that they’re supposed to be quite passivists. Satans greatest trick is to get good people to do nothing.

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The rise of evil being acceptable in society is because Christians have been brainwashed that they’re supposed to be quite passivists. Satans greatest trick is to get good people to do nothing.

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

US is an agnostic government created by Christians for all to prosper in.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The rise of evil being acceptable in society is because Christians have been brainwashed that they’re supposed to be quite passivists. Satans greatest trick is to get good people to do nothing.

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

And of course you accuse our troops of targeting innocent civilians - you’re a loony leftist.

 

[BreezeWood]

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

US is an agnostic government created by Christians for all to prosper in.

US is an agnostic government created by Christians for all to prosper in.

no, the gov't is secular, the christians lost out. most were not christians, religion in this country at that time was defined by the reason they left Europe - to escape religious fanatics.

 

[Weatherman2020]

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

US is an agnostic government created by Christians for all to prosper in.

US is an agnostic government created by Christians for all to prosper in.

no, the gov't is secular, the christians lost out. most were not christians, religion in this country at that time was defined by the reason they left Europe - to escape religious fanatics.

Our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian beliefs.

Go look up the other hundred threads on the topic.

 

[BreezeWood]

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

And of course you accuse our troops of targeting innocent civilians - you’re a loony leftist.

And of course you accuse our troops of targeting innocent civilians - you’re a loony leftist.

they made up false presences to start an unjustified war - civilian deaths were in the millions, christian.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Like your religion.

Which is...what? Use your big boy words. People won't know what you're trying to say, if you don't use your big boy words.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian beliefs.

No they aren't. Judeo-christian beliefs are believing in zombie gods and sky daddies. And magic tricks and virgin births

 

[Weatherman2020]

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

And of course you accuse our troops of targeting innocent civilians - you’re a loony leftist.

And of course you accuse our troops of targeting innocent civilians - you’re a loony leftist.

they made up false presences to start an unjustified war - civilian deaths were in the millions, christian.

Hillary insisting al qada was in Iraq and insisted upon invasion is itrelivent as she is not Christian

 

[Weatherman2020]

Our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian beliefs.

No they aren't. Judeo-christian beliefs are believing in zombie gods and sky daddies. And magic tricks and virgin births

You mocking MLK and Obama again?
Racist.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian beliefs.

No they aren't. Judeo-christian beliefs are believing in zombie gods and sky daddies. And magic tricks and virgin births

You mocking MLK and Obama again?
Racist.

Huh? You are embarrassing yourself. I am mocking stupid ideas, not people. You get confused because you internalize these ideas, since the truth of them relies completely on "because you say so". So, naturally, you take it personally.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian beliefs.

No they aren't. Judeo-christian beliefs are believing in zombie gods and sky daddies. And magic tricks and virgin births

You mocking MLK and Obama again?
Racist.

Huh? You are embarrassing yourself. I am mocking stupid ideas, not people. You get confused because you internalize these ideas, since the truth of them relies completely on "because you say so". So, naturally, you take it personally.

So MLK, Carter, Obama, Pelosi etc have really stupid ideas?

Then why do you support Jesus being used to create laws as Democrats want to do?

WATCH: Democrat Storms Out Of Hearing After Claiming Trump Would've Helped Kill Baby Jesus

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So MLK, Carter, Obama, Pelosi etc have really stupid ideas?

Yes, occasionally. Again, you're confused. I am not a cultist like you. I don't have to be beholden to people and condone, for instance, everything President Pussyboy does because he is my cult leader. I value ideas.

 

[Avatar4321]

...that's why we are losing the argument on abortion, assisted suicide and euthanasia, is because too many people can no longer be reached by religious arguments.

The quandary is this, only if there is a God who created human life in his own image, is human life precious, so that killing of innocent human life is always wrong.

If one does not believe in God, then human life has no inherent value, and killing innocent human life can be justified when it is convenient.

The only way to win the argument on abortion/assisted suicide/euthanasia is to convince enough people that God exists.

The rise of evil being acceptable in society is because Christians have been brainwashed that they’re supposed to be quite passivists. Satans greatest trick is to get good people to do nothing.

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Interesting considering all those things were created by Christians

 

[there4eyeM]

Most of the worlds killings and murders throughout history have been carried out by people who professed some religious belief. Obviously, simple belief in a god does not convey much value on human life.

 

[Slyhunter]

Religion devalues human life. We are but clay pots subject to the God's whims and should be happy to suffer at their pleasure.

 

[bodecea]

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century.

.

Secular governments are responsible for murdering over 150 million of their own citizens in the past century

the U S is a secular gov't - despite psudo theistic intrusions.

* of course the iraq wars would be an example of murdering innocent civilians as that was where the theistic intrusion was not prevented.

US is an agnostic government created by Christians for all to prosper in.

US is an agnostic government created by Christians for all to prosper in.

no, the gov't is secular, the christians lost out. most were not christians, religion in this country at that time was defined by the reason they left Europe - to escape religious fanatics.

Our laws are based upon Judeo-Christian beliefs.

Go look up the other hundred threads on the topic.

Oh really? No they are not.

 

[bodecea]

...that's why we are losing the argument on abortion, assisted suicide and euthanasia, is because too many people can no longer be reached by religious arguments.

The quandary is this, only if there is a God who created human life in his own image, is human life precious, so that killing of innocent human life is always wrong.

If one does not believe in God, then human life has no inherent value, and killing innocent human life can be justified when it is convenient.

The only way to win the argument on abortion/assisted suicide/euthanasia is to convince enough people that God exists.

The rise of evil being acceptable in society is because Christians have been brainwashed that they’re supposed to be quite passivists. Satans greatest trick is to get good people to do nothing.

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Interesting considering all those things were created by Christians

Actually, in most cases, christian in name only because they had to put some kind of christian veneer on their works......or get arrested.

 

[Karl Rand]

The rise of evil being acceptable in society is because Christians have been brainwashed that they’re supposed to be quite passivists. Satans greatest trick is to get good people to do nothing.

More self soothing sky daddy pap...of course, we have the best, most moral society in history precisely because we have abandoned the domination of magical hooha in favor of better, secular ideas. The societies that haven't caught up are the ones still trying to shed the embarrassment that is religion.

What's a better secular idea?

Scientific enlightenment, classical liberalism, secular government...to name a few. I would list the horribly embarrassing religion-fueled delusions they displaced, but there's not enough bandwidth for that.

Interesting considering all those things were created by Christians

Actually, in most cases, christian in name only because they had to put some kind of christian veneer on their works......or get arrested.

Arrested? Don’t you mean burnt at the stake?

 

[Nia88]

God kills humans all the time what are you blathering about?

Not only kills them, but in painful and torturous ways by cancers, abuse, wars etc.

But it's sinful to choose a peaceful method like euthanasia to take your own life.