The OLDER Official Discussion Thread for the creation of Israel, the UN and the British Mandate

[rylah]

The Arabs calling themselves Palestinians could barely pronounce the 1st letter of the word.Funny thing, Jews returning from Arab countries knew exactly what 'Palestine' means, Arabs still don't.

Not too many Jews with the surname "the Egyptian", but a very common one among the Palestinians.

You expect people to take you seriously?

Everything I said is basic common knowledge.
What's important are facts, and You weren't capable to refute any.

 

[Billo_Really]

Everything I said is basic common knowledge.
What's important are facts, and You weren't capable to refute any.

You're broadstroking Arabs as not knowing what Palestine means. That's not a fact! That's your own personal, racist opinion.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Everything I said is basic common knowledge.
What's important are facts, and You weren't capable to refute any.

You're broadstroking Arabs as not knowing what Palestine means. That's not a fact! That's your own personal, racist opinion.

Arabs know very well what Palestine is.
It is a region they conquered in the 7th Century CE which they refused to have the indigenous people, the Jews, be sovereign over around 100 years.

Mesopotamia, Syria, any area the Arab Muslims conquered is fine, if there is a Muslim being sovereign over it.
Otherwise, their Arab Honor is bruised, as it has been since WWI.

Muslims continue to long for Andalusia and Vienna.

How to make their dreams come true?

 

[rylah]

Everything I said is basic common knowledge.
What's important are facts, and You weren't capable to refute any.

You're broadstroking Arabs as not knowing what Palestine means. That's not a fact! That's your own personal, racist opinion.

Pretty funny when those who whine about invasion chose to identify with the word "Invaders" as their national identity. It's like a mouse complaining about cheese.

Can You contradict my observation?
If Arabs knew what the word meant, they wouldn't appropriate it.
But then again Arabs don't know the meanings of the names in the land because it's not their homeland, but Jews who return from abroad - do, because it's their ancestral land.

Couldn't be more simple than that.

 

[Billo_Really]

Pretty funny when those who whine about invasion chose to identify with the word "Invaders" as their national identity. It's like a mouse complaining about cheese.

Can You contradict my observation?
If Arabs knew what the word meant, they wouldn't appropriate it.
But then again Arabs don't know the meanings of the names in the land because it's not their homeland, but Jews who return from abroad - do, because it's their ancestral land.

Couldn't be more simple than that.

People living there for hundreds of years, it is not their homeland. People who migrated in from somewhere else, it is their homeland.

You are a fucking fruit loop!

 

[Sixties Fan]

Pretty funny when those who whine about invasion chose to identify with the word "Invaders" as their national identity. It's like a mouse complaining about cheese.

Can You contradict my observation?
If Arabs knew what the word meant, they wouldn't appropriate it.
But then again Arabs don't know the meanings of the names in the land because it's not their homeland, but Jews who return from abroad - do, because it's their ancestral land.

Couldn't be more simple than that.

People living there for hundreds of years, it is not their homeland. People who migrated in from somewhere else, it is their homeland.

You are a fucking fruit loop!

No, Billo.

People who have lived there (Ancient Canaan ) for over 3500 years and created a Nation, even if some of its people went out of the area willingly, or were forced to leave......they are still the indigenous people of that land and have every right to return to it ANYTIME they want, as they had been doing always.

People who lived somewhere else ( outside Ancient Canaan ) 3500 years ago, and made their tribes, nations in that area, and left that area to conquer outside of it 1400 years, and came to live in all of those areas they conquered, whether they got to stay in those areas or were expelled from any one of them - as they were from Spain, and later other areas of Europe.......

.....Still, none of those areas they conquered are considered their indigenous homeland.

ONLY those who were there BEFORE those people came and conquered all of those areas of Europe, North Africa, Asia Minor can call those areas their ancient homelands.

The ancient homeland of the invading groups of Arabs, continue to be the place where they first came from.

It is called, still and forever ..... Arabia.

 

[Billo_Really]

No, Billo.

People who have lived there (Ancient Canaan ) for over 3500 years and created a Nation, even if some of its people went out of the area willingly, or were forced to leave......they are still the indigenous people of that land and have every right to return to it ANYTIME they want, as they had been doing always.

People who lived somewhere else ( outside Ancient Canaan ) 3500 years ago, and made their tribes, nations in that area, and left that area to conquer outside of it 1400 years, and came to live in all of those areas they conquered, whether they got to stay in those areas or were expelled from any one of them - as they were from Spain, and later other areas of Europe.......

.....Still, none of those areas they conquered are considered their indigenous homeland.

ONLY those who were there BEFORE those people came and conquered all of those areas of Europe, North Africa, Asia Minor can call those areas their ancient homelands.

The ancient homeland of the invading groups of Arabs, continue to be the place where they first came from.

It is called, still and forever ..... Arabia.

These are your words...

"...even if some of its people went out of the area willingly, or were forced to leave......they are still the indigenous people of that land and have every right to return to it ANYTIME they want, as they had been doing always."​

Are you remembering your words?

Roughly 750,000 [Palestinians] were driven from their homes or fled in terror following massacres of Palestinian civilians by Jewish militias.​

Still remembering?

By their numbers and overwhelming ownership of land, Palestinian Muslims and Christians impeded the foundation of a Jewish state. Israel expelled them, seized or destroyed their homes and villages, and has violently barred their return to this day—most recently from the Gaza gulag.
​

If you have the right of return after 3500 years, then so do they after 70 years.

Fucking hypocrite!

 

[Sixties Fan]

No, Billo.

People who have lived there (Ancient Canaan ) for over 3500 years and created a Nation, even if some of its people went out of the area willingly, or were forced to leave......they are still the indigenous people of that land and have every right to return to it ANYTIME they want, as they had been doing always.

People who lived somewhere else ( outside Ancient Canaan ) 3500 years ago, and made their tribes, nations in that area, and left that area to conquer outside of it 1400 years, and came to live in all of those areas they conquered, whether they got to stay in those areas or were expelled from any one of them - as they were from Spain, and later other areas of Europe.......

.....Still, none of those areas they conquered are considered their indigenous homeland.

ONLY those who were there BEFORE those people came and conquered all of those areas of Europe, North Africa, Asia Minor can call those areas their ancient homelands.

The ancient homeland of the invading groups of Arabs, continue to be the place where they first came from.

It is called, still and forever ..... Arabia.

These are your words...

"...even if some of its people went out of the area willingly, or were forced to leave......they are still the indigenous people of that land and have every right to return to it ANYTIME they want, as they had been doing always."​

Are you remembering your words?

Roughly 750,000 [Palestinians] were driven from their homes or fled in terror following massacres of Palestinian civilians by Jewish militias.​

Still remembering?

By their numbers and overwhelming ownership of land, Palestinian Muslims and Christians impeded the foundation of a Jewish state. Israel expelled them, seized or destroyed their homes and villages, and has violently barred their return to this day—most recently from the Gaza gulag.
​

If you have the right of return after 3500 years, then so do they after 70 years.

Fucking hypocrite!

Clearly, English is not your first language, and decency is not your second one.

I was very clear as to what I wrote, but you do insist that the Arabs who have chosen to appropriate the word Palestine (Invaders) to themselves, have the same right of return to all of Israel as the Jewish people who are the indigenous people of the land.

You want to give the Ancient Land of Canaan, all of it, which is the indigenous homeland of the Jewish People, to the invaders from the Land of Arabia.

No deal.

They have every right to return to their homeland.

Arabia awaits all of the Arabs who want to return.

Next Year in Mecca.

The Jewish people are on their homeland.

As it is always said amongst the Jewish Nation, Next Year in Jerusalem.

We are home.

Am Israel Chai.

 

[rylah]

Pretty funny when those who whine about invasion chose to identify with the word "Invaders" as their national identity. It's like a mouse complaining about cheese.

Can You contradict my observation?
If Arabs knew what the word meant, they wouldn't appropriate it.
But then again Arabs don't know the meanings of the names in the land because it's not their homeland, but Jews who return from abroad - do, because it's their ancestral land.

Couldn't be more simple than that.

People living there for hundreds of years, it is not their homeland. People who migrated in from somewhere else, it is their homeland.

You are a fucking fruit loop!

What do You call a people who after hundreds of years of colonization and occupation
insist on calling themselves "INVADERS"?

People who don't know the original names of the places in the land, turn their asses to the capital and their faces to Arabia - it's not their homeland, it's their colony.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I am starting a conversation as to what happened in 1920, as "ILoveIsrael" has suggested.

Tel Hai is a historic site that commemorates the heroism of the Hula Valley pioneers who stubbornly defended their homes to the death. Nearby Kiryat Shmona is named after the eight (Shmona in Hebrew) pioneers who perished here.

Tel Hai was founded in 1916 by a group of Hashomer guards. Hashomer was an organization that believed that only Jews should guard Jewish settlements. After the First World War, Tel Hai and other Galilee settlements were transferred to French rule and suffered in the Arab revolt against the French. In January 1920 two Tel Hai members were killed in an Arab attack, and on the 11th of Adar, 5680 (March 1, 1920), six more died when hundreds of Arabs attacked the settlement. Among the fallen was Yosef Trumpeldor, the guards’ young commander.

Tel Hai

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Does anyone have anymore information about it?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Tel Hai (Hebrew: תֵּל חַי‬, meaning "Hill of Life" in Hebrew; Tal-ha in Arabic) is a name of the former Jewish settlement in northern Galilee, the site of an early battle between Jews and Arabs heralding the growing civil conflict, and of a monument, tourist attraction, and a college. It is currently part of kibbutz Kfar Giladi.

The Battle of Tel Hai on 1 March 1920, which gave Tel Hai its fame, was significant, from a Jewish perspective, far beyond the small number of civil combatants on either side - mainly due to its influence on Israeli culture, both inspiring an enduring heroic story and profoundly influencing the military of the Yishuv and political strategies over several decades.

In retrospect, it can be regarded as the first military engagement between the Zionists and the Arabs, though at the time itself combatants on either side did not regard it in such terms.

(full article online)

Tel Hai - Wikipedia

 

[Sixties Fan]

This Week in Israeli History: Joseph Trumpeldor and the Battle of Tel Hai - Blogs - Jerusalem Post

 

[Billo_Really]

Clearly, English is not your first language, and decency is not your second one.

I was very clear as to what I wrote, but you do insist that the Arabs who have chosen to appropriate the word Palestine (Invaders) to themselves, have the same right of return to all of Israel as the Jewish people who are the indigenous people of the land.

You want to give the Ancient Land of Canaan, all of it, which is the indigenous homeland of the Jewish People, to the invaders from the Land of Arabia.

No deal.

They have every right to return to their homeland.

Arabia awaits all of the Arabs who want to return.

Next Year in Mecca.

The Jewish people are on their homeland.

As it is always said amongst the Jewish Nation, Next Year in Jerusalem.

We are home.

Am Israel Chai.

They're not the invaders, you are! You are the ones who moved into the area. They were the people already living there.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Clearly, English is not your first language, and decency is not your second one.

I was very clear as to what I wrote, but you do insist that the Arabs who have chosen to appropriate the word Palestine (Invaders) to themselves, have the same right of return to all of Israel as the Jewish people who are the indigenous people of the land.

You want to give the Ancient Land of Canaan, all of it, which is the indigenous homeland of the Jewish People, to the invaders from the Land of Arabia.

No deal.

They have every right to return to their homeland.

Arabia awaits all of the Arabs who want to return.

Next Year in Mecca.

The Jewish people are on their homeland.

As it is always said amongst the Jewish Nation, Next Year in Jerusalem.

We are home.

Am Israel Chai.

They're not the invaders, you are! You are the ones who moved into the area. They were the people already living there.

You are never going to be able to prove it in court.

Am Israel Chai!!

The People Of Israel Live !!

 

[Billo_Really]

What do You call a people who after hundreds of years of colonization and occupation
insist on calling themselves "INVADERS"?

People who don't know the original names of the places in the land, turn their asses to the capital and their faces to Arabia - it's not their homeland, it's their colony.

Who gives a shit what they call themselves? That doesn't give you the right to take their homes.

 

[Sixties Fan]

What do You call a people who after hundreds of years of colonization and occupation
insist on calling themselves "INVADERS"?

People who don't know the original names of the places in the land, turn their asses to the capital and their faces to Arabia - it's not their homeland, it's their colony.

Who gives a shit what they call themselves? That doesn't give you the right to take their homes.

Their homes are in the Arabian Peninsula.

Arabs = Arabia Peninsula

No Jew has stepped in the Arabian Peninsula since two tribes were expelled by Mohammad in the 7th Century.

The Arabs are more than free to go home to their ancestral Jew Free land.

No one is keeping them from it.

 

[Billo_Really]

You are never going to be able to prove it in court.

Am Israel Chai!!

The People Of Israel Live !!

It already has been. Almost 400 UN resolutions say so. Every country on the planet thinks so. You're the only ones who disagree.

 

[Sixties Fan]

You are never going to be able to prove it in court.

Am Israel Chai!!

The People Of Israel Live !!

It already has been. Almost 400 UN resolutions say so. Every country on the planet thinks so. You're the only ones who disagree.

Resolutions written by Rabbid Jew haters are worthless on the paper and ink they are wasted.

Israel has no obligation to follow ANY of the self aggrandized "resolutions" Rabbid Christians and Muslims have decided on in order to destroy Israel.

You continue to exaggerate about the "every country".

Take it down a peg

 

[Billo_Really]

Their homes are in the Arabian Peninsula.

Arabs = Arabia Peninsula

No Jew has stepped in the Arabian Peninsula since two tribes were expelled by Mohammad in the 7th Century.

The Arabs are more than free to go home to their ancestral Jew Free land.

No one is keeping them from it.

Their homes were in Palestine.

 

[Billo_Really]

Resolutions written by Rabbid Jew haters are worthless on the paper and ink they are wasted.

Israel has no obligation to follow ANY of the self aggrandized "resolutions" Rabbid Christians and Muslims have decided on in order to destroy Israel.

You continue to exaggerate about the "every country".

Take it down a peg

Israel is a member state of the UN. Why would you belong to an organization, if you have no intention of following their rules?

BTW, several of those resolutions are telling Israel to stop doing business with apartheid South Africa. WTF does that have to do with Jew hate?