I wonder if these people droning on about race might be referred to as "racists"
Don't know you'd need to talk to the biggest racists on the planet, Zionists.
EVIDENCE of this alleged racism ?
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I wonder if these people droning on about race might be referred to as "racists"
Don't know you'd need to talk to the biggest racists on the planet, Zionists.
An Inuit can convert to Judaism, Catholicism, Hinduism, Islam etc. It doesn't change his ethnicity.
A Jew can convert to Catholicism, Hinduism, Islam, etc. It doesn't change her ethnicity.
Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity.
But you have no reasonable definition of any of the terms which includes most groups while excluding the Jewish people.
Its like saying blue is not a color; Rottweilers are not dogs; pizza is not a food; Star Wars is not a movie.
Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity.
But you have no reasonable definition of any of the terms which includes most groups while excluding the Jewish people.
Its like saying blue is not a color; Rottweilers are not dogs; pizza is not a food; Star Wars is not a movie.
No it isn't. Would you consider Mormons an ethnic group, or Quakers for that matter?
An Inuit can convert to Judaism, Catholicism, Hinduism, Islam etc. It doesn't change his ethnicity.
A Jew can convert to Catholicism, Hinduism, Islam, etc. It doesn't change her ethnicity.
Correct. A Jewish Frenchman can convert to Catholicism and he remains a Frenchman.
Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity.
But you have no reasonable definition of any of the terms which includes most groups while excluding the Jewish people.
Its like saying blue is not a color; Rottweilers are not dogs; pizza is not a food; Star Wars is not a movie.
No it isn't. Would you consider Mormons an ethnic group, or Quakers for that matter?
The Zionist Jews that colonized Palestine were Europeans that lived in Europe for several millenia.
Correct. A Jewish Frenchman can convert to Catholicism and he remains a Frenchman.
No it isn't. Would you consider Mormons an ethnic group, or Quakers for that matter?
The Jewish people originated in Israel. Trying to deny that is just foolish.
The Zionist Jews that colonized Palestine were Europeans that lived in Europe for several millenia.
If Israel ignored international law and deliberately committed the crime of ethnic cleansing and you are attempting to put it "right", why are you not ALSO demanding that all the other ethnic cleansings which occurred around that time are corrected?
Why are you not demanding that 15 million Germans be returned to their homelands in Eastern and Central Europe?
Why are you not demanding that the Latvians, the Estonians and Ukrainians be returned to the Soviet Union?
Why are you not demanding that the Japanese be returned to Korea? And for the Turkish and Greek Cypriots be brought back to their homes? Why are you not demanding that Pakistan and India and Bangladesh return all of those uprooted in the ethnic cleansings be returned to their original homes? Along with all their descendants?
If Israel ignored international law and deliberately committed the crime of ethnic cleansing and you are attempting to put it "right", why are you not ALSO demanding that all the other ethnic cleansings which occurred around that time are corrected?
Why are you not demanding that 15 million Germans be returned to their homelands in Eastern and Central Europe?
Why are you not demanding that the Latvians, the Estonians and Ukrainians be returned to the Soviet Union?
Why are you claiming that Israel ignored international law and yet all of these other nations did not?
The Jewish people originated in Israel. Trying to deny that is just foolish.
You are confusing a religious group with a people. BTW, Christians also originated in Palestine, Jesus Christ was the first Christian Palestinian.
Does this mean that any Christian in any part of the world has the right to "return" to Palestine?
No it isn't. Would you consider Mormons an ethnic group, or Quakers for that matter?
That would depend on what qualities they had which might make them an ethnic group, a distinct culture or a "people". Certainly, as Boston already said, an association with a specific territory for a long period of time is one of the best markers of a people. Its one of the strongest arguments made by those who see the Palestinians as a people.
Having a religion does not include or exclude people from being a people, its one of the factors, but not the only one.
Actually, the more I think about it, one could make a very strong argument for the Quakers and the Amish as distinct cultures or peoples. Culturally specific forms of dress, codified laws and rituals, a specific territory, probably dialect or language markers, special foods. I'm there is more.
Well, this happened before the law was changed...
You could but you'd not be able to argue they are the native peoples of that land or that they are indigenous or a first nations people.
You could but you'd not be able to argue they are the native peoples of that land or that they are indigenous or a first nations people.
We agree. There is a distinction between being indigenous and being a culture or ethnic group. The former speaks to the place of origin of a people or cultural group.
But in 5,000 or 10,000 years, I can see people arguing that the Quakers or the Amish DID develop their distinct culture on that territory. Its not an impossible argument.