The Official Discussion Thread for who is considered indiginous to Palestine?

[watchingfromafar]

Hey ”genius”: Romans, and ancient Greeks, called Israel “Judea,” signifying land of the Jews

You can claim “Judea” is the same as Israel if this helps you sleep at night, for I would not wish nightmares disturbing your sleep but the truth is the truth.

I would like to skip all this gibberish concerning the land now called Israel and jump to the here and now. The land of Israel does exist today. Biblically speaking God did choose the Jews as His children and God said He could cherish them over all others but He attached some conditions to maintain His loyalties.

The Israelis’ have broken those conditions and they will be punished for it.

The only way the Israeli’s can regain God’s trust and love is to “repent”, admit their transgressions and ask for His forgiveness; once done I am sure He will forgive them.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. and if not Gods last prophesy will come true.

King James Bible
Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

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[MartyNYC]

Hey ”genius”: Romans, and ancient Greeks, called Israel “Judea,” signifying land of the Jews

You can claim “Judea” is the same as Israel if this helps you sleep at night, for I would not wish nightmares disturbing your sleep but the truth is the truth.

I would like to skip all this gibberish concerning the land now called Israel and jump to the here and now. The land of Israel does exist today. Biblically speaking God did choose the Jews as His children and God said He could cherish them over all others but He attached some conditions to maintain His loyalties.

The Israelis’ have broken those conditions and they will be punished for it.

The only way the Israeli’s can regain God’s trust and love is to “repent”, admit their transgressions and ask for His forgiveness; once done I am sure He will forgive them.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. and if not Gods last prophesy will come true.

King James Bible
Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

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Judea, land of the Jews, with Jewish Jerusalem its Capital. Palestine never existed.

 

[Shusha]

Hey ”genius”: Romans, and ancient Greeks, called Israel “Judea,” signifying land of the Jews

You can claim “Judea” is the same as Israel if this helps you sleep at night, for I would not wish nightmares disturbing your sleep but the truth is the truth.

I would like to skip all this gibberish concerning the land now called Israel and jump to the here and now. The land of Israel does exist today. Biblically speaking God did choose the Jews as His children and God said He could cherish them over all others but He attached some conditions to maintain His loyalties.

The Israelis’ have broken those conditions and they will be punished for it.

The only way the Israeli’s can regain God’s trust and love is to “repent”, admit their transgressions and ask for His forgiveness; once done I am sure He will forgive them.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. and if not Gods last prophesy will come true.

King James Bible
Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

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Didn't take very many posts for your antisemitism to show, now, did it?

 

[watchingfromafar]

You evidently have a learning disability. The name Palestine does not appear in the Hebrew Bible. It’s an English word.

You can access ancient maps of Palestine, I have even provided one.
You cannot find an ancient map of Israel because the land of Israel did not exist. The myth has been busted
The Jews never had a "nation",

more food for thought-- The Jews of old were shepherds
,BTW: Joseph was an Israelite

(Gen 41:39 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath showed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:

(Gen 41:40 KJV) Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.

(Gen 41:42 KJV) And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck;

Joseph who is now the de facto ruler over all of Egypt saves the Israelites who are experiencing a great famine and moves them to Egypt and gives them power over all the agriculture lands. Clearly they were not slaves as some would have believed.

(Gen 42:5 KJV) And the sons of Israel came to buy corn among those that came: for the famine was in the land of Canaan.

(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:

(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:

(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.

(Gen 47:11 KJV) And Joseph placed his father [ISRAEL] and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

The Moses breaks one of his own commandments and MURDERS a man the the street

And it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out to his brothers, and looked on their burdens: and he spied an Egyptian smiting an Hebrew, one of his brothers. And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand. And when he went out the second day, behold, two men of the Hebrews strove together: and he said to him that did the wrong, Why smite you your fellow?

Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelled in the land of Midian: and he sat down by a well.

This marked the great EXODUS
because Moses murders
a fellow Jew in cold blood​

NOTE: The Israelite's pack up everything and move to Egypt leaving everything behind and live in Egypt for 400+ years never calling the place they left behind “Israel”

 

[watchingfromafar]

Didn't take very many posts for your antisemitism to show, now, did it?

If you non't like what is in the Bible or history books so be it; as if I cared -

 

[MartyNYC]

You evidently have a learning disability. The name Palestine does not appear in the Hebrew Bible. It’s an English word.

You can access ancient maps of Palestine, I have even provided one.
You cannot find an ancient map of Israel because the land of Israel did not exist. The myth has been busted
The Jews never had a "nation",

more food for thought-- The Jews of old were shepherds
,BTW: Joseph was an Israelite

(Gen 41:39 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, Forasmuch as God hath showed thee all this, there is none so discreet and wise as thou art:

(Gen 41:40 KJV) Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.

(Gen 41:42 KJV) And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck;

Joseph who is now the de facto ruler over all of Egypt saves the Israelites who are experiencing a great famine and moves them to Egypt and gives them power over all the agriculture lands. Clearly they were not slaves as some would have believed.

(Gen 42:5 KJV) And the sons of Israel came to buy corn among those that came: for the famine was in the land of Canaan.

(Gen 42:25 KJV) Then Joseph commanded to fill their sacks with corn, and to restore every man's money into his sack, and to give them provision for the way:

(Gen 45:20 KJV) Also regard not your stuff; for the good of all the land of Egypt is yours.

(Gen 45:21 KJV) And the children of Israel did so: and Joseph gave them wagons, according to the commandment of Pharaoh, and gave them provision for the way.

(Gen 47:1 KJV) Then Joseph came and told Pharaoh, and said, My father [ISRAEL] and my brethren, and their flocks, and their herds, and all that they have, are come out of the land of Canaan; and, behold, they are in the land of Goshen.

(Gen 47:3 KJV) And Pharaoh said unto his brethren, What is your occupation? And they said unto Pharaoh, Thy servants are shepherds, both we, and also our fathers.

(Gen 47:5 KJV) And Pharaoh spake unto Joseph, saying, Thy father [ISRAEL] and thy brethren are come unto thee:

(Gen 47:6 KJV) The land of Egypt is before thee; in the best of the land make thy father and brethren to dwell; in the land of Goshen let them dwell: and if thou knowest any men of activity among them, then make them rulers over my cattle.

(Gen 47:11 KJV) And Joseph placed his father [ISRAEL] and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded.

The Moses breaks one of his own commandments and MURDERS a man the the street

And it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out to his brothers, and looked on their burdens: and he spied an Egyptian smiting an Hebrew, one of his brothers. And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand. And when he went out the second day, behold, two men of the Hebrews strove together: and he said to him that did the wrong, Why smite you your fellow?

Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelled in the land of Midian: and he sat down by a well.

This marked the great EXODUS
because Moses murders
a fellow Jew in cold blood​

NOTE: The Israelite's pack up everything and move to Egypt leaving everything behind and live in Egypt for 400+ years never calling the place they left behind “Israel”

Maps are European, bright eyes. Palestine is a European name. D’oh!

 

[MartyNYC]

Didn't take very many posts for your antisemitism to show, now, did it?

If you non't like what is in the Bible or history books so be it; as if I cared -

Israel is in the Bible, even in the Koran. Palestine is not.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Maps are European, bright eyes. Palestine is a European name. D’oh!

Da.,.,Da.,.,poor Da.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. still no ancient maps of "Israel"
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[watchingfromafar]

Israel is in the Bible, even in the Koran. Palestine is not.

Oh wise one, show me the verses in the Bible where it refers to a nation called "Israel"--?
waiting.,,.waiting.,.,.waiting, please marty do da doodle de for me
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[watchingfromafar]

Judea or Judæa (/dʒuːˈdiːə/;[1] from Hebrew: יהודה‎, Standard Yəhuda, Tiberian Yəhûḏāh, Greek: Ἰουδαία, Ioudaía; Latin: Iūdaea, Arabic: يهودا‎, Yahudia) is the ancient Hebrew and Israelite biblical, the exonymic Roman/English, and the modern-day name of the mountainous southern part of the region of Palestine. The name originates from the Hebrew name "Yehudah", a son of the Jewish patriarch Jacob/Israel, and Yehudah's progeny forming the biblical Israelite tribe of Judah (Yehudah) and later the associated Kingdom of Judah, which the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia dates from 934 until 586 BCE.[2] The name of the region continued to be incorporated through the Babylonian conquest, Persian, Hellenistic, and Roman periods as Yehud, Yehud Medinata, Hasmonean Judea, and consequently Herodian Judea and Roman Judea, respectively.

Palestine (Arabic: فلسطين‎ Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn; Greek: Παλαιστίνη, Palaistinē; Latin: Palaestina; Hebrew: פלשתינה‎ Palestina) is a geographic region in Western Asia usually considered to include Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and in some definitions, some parts of western Jordan.

The name was used by ancient Greek writers, and it was later used for the Roman province Syria Palaestina, the Byzantine Palaestina Prima, and the Islamic provincial district of Jund Filastin. The region comprises most of the territory claimed for the biblical regions known as the Land of Israel (Hebrew: ארץ־ישראל‎ Eretz-Yisra'el), the Holy Land or Promised Land. Historically, it has been known as the southern portion of wider regional designations such as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, and the Levant.
Palestine (region) - Wikipedia
BTW: you can click on the word "Palestine" above to learn the truth
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[MartyNYC]

Maps are European, bright eyes. Palestine is a European name. D’oh!

Da.,.,Da.,.,poor Da.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. still no ancient maps of "Israel"
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Maps are modern creations, bright eyes. Israel and Judea appear in ancient sources. Palestine does not.

 

[MartyNYC]

Judea or Judæa (/dʒuːˈdiːə/;[1] from Hebrew: יהודה‎, Standard Yəhuda, Tiberian Yəhûḏāh, Greek: Ἰουδαία, Ioudaía; Latin: Iūdaea, Arabic: يهودا‎, Yahudia) is the ancient Hebrew and Israelite biblical, the exonymic Roman/English, and the modern-day name of the mountainous southern part of the region of Palestine. The name originates from the Hebrew name "Yehudah", a son of the Jewish patriarch Jacob/Israel, and Yehudah's progeny forming the biblical Israelite tribe of Judah (Yehudah) and later the associated Kingdom of Judah, which the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia dates from 934 until 586 BCE.[2] The name of the region continued to be incorporated through the Babylonian conquest, Persian, Hellenistic, and Roman periods as Yehud, Yehud Medinata, Hasmonean Judea, and consequently Herodian Judea and Roman Judea, respectively.

Palestine (Arabic: فلسطين‎ Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn; Greek: Παλαιστίνη, Palaistinē; Latin: Palaestina; Hebrew: פלשתינה‎ Palestina) is a geographic region in Western Asia usually considered to include Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and in some definitions, some parts of western Jordan.

The name was used by ancient Greek writers, and it was later used for the Roman province Syria Palaestina, the Byzantine Palaestina Prima, and the Islamic provincial district of Jund Filastin. The region comprises most of the territory claimed for the biblical regions known as the Land of Israel (Hebrew: ארץ־ישראל‎ Eretz-Yisra'el), the Holy Land or Promised Land. Historically, it has been known as the southern portion of wider regional designations such as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, and the Levant.
Palestine (region) - Wikipedia
BTW: you can click on the word "Palestine" above to learn the truth
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Palestine: English name from Greek/Latin name for Philistines who were Greek. Palestine never existed...

 

[watchingfromafar]

Maps are modern creations, bright eyes. Israel and Judea appear in ancient sources. Palestine does not.

You can repeat the same lie over and over and still its just a lie.
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[watchingfromafar]

Palestine: English name from Greek/Latin name for Philistines who were Greek. Palestine never existed...

You can make the text as large as you want and still its just a bigger lie. Bernard's fiction is no different but I does make for a great comic book tail.

You anti-Christian buffoon
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[rylah]

Hey ”genius”: Romans, and ancient Greeks, called Israel “Judea,” signifying land of the Jews

You can claim “Judea” is the same as Israel if this helps you sleep at night, for I would not wish nightmares disturbing your sleep but the truth is the truth.

I would like to skip all this gibberish concerning the land now called Israel and jump to the here and now. The land of Israel does exist today. Biblically speaking God did choose the Jews as His children and God said He could cherish them over all others but He attached some conditions to maintain His loyalties.

The Israelis’ have broken those conditions and they will be punished for it.

The only way the Israeli’s can regain God’s trust and love is to “repent”, admit their transgressions and ask for His forgiveness; once done I am sure He will forgive them.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. and if not Gods last prophesy will come true.

King James Bible
Ezekiel 21:32
Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

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This church buffonery again?

Dude you have no idea what you're quoting,
because the verse is describing the demise of Israel's enemies:

"And you, son of man, prophesy and say; So said the Lord God concerning the children of Ammon and concerning their blasphemy, and you shall say; A sword, a drawn sword, furbished for slaughter, to consume in order to glitter. "

 

[rylah]

there never was a land called “Israel” prior to 1947ad

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3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the Lord;

Feel especially smart yet?

 

[ESay]

NOTE: The Israelite's pack up everything and move to Egypt leaving everything behind and live in Egypt for 400+ years never calling the place they left behind “Isra

My bet is there wasnt a land called Israel at that time. It became their land after Moses led them there after 40 years' wandering from Egypt.

This marked the great EXODUS
because Moses murders
a fellow Jew in cold blood

Doesn't your own quite say that he killed an Egyptian?

 

[watchingfromafar]

The Last Nail In the Zion Coffin​

Ezekiel
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel,
3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.
4 Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north:
7 And it shall be, when they say unto thee, Wherefore sighest thou? that thou shalt answer, For the tidings; because it cometh: and every heart shall melt, and all hands shall be feeble, and every spirit shall faint, and all knees shall be weak as water: behold, it cometh, and shall be brought to pass, saith the Lord GOD.
9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the LORD; Say, A sword, a sword is sharpened, and also furbished:
12 Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh.
13 Because it is a trial, and what if the sword contemn even the rod? it shall be no more, saith the Lord GOD.
17 I will also smite mine hands together, and I will cause my fury to rest: I the LORD have said it.
20 Appoint a way, that the sword may come to Rabbath of the Ammonites, and to Judah in Jerusalem the defenced.
24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
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[watchingfromafar]

Doesn't your own quite say that he killed an Egyptian?

Interpret the following as you see it--

And it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out to his brothers, and looked on their burdens: and he spied an Egyptian smiting an Hebrew, one of his brothers. And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand. And when he went out the second day, behold, two men of the Hebrews strove together: and he said to him that did the wrong, Why smite you your fellow?

Now when Pharaoh heard this thing, he sought to slay Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelled in the land of Midian: and he sat down by a well. Moses and all the others flee Egypt and are scattered throughout the land.
Exodus 2:11 One day, after Moses had grown up, he went out to his own people and observed their hard labor. He saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people.

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[watchingfromafar]

Doesn't your own quite say that he killed an Egyptian?

Yes it does. Moses murders a man the the street for no good reason; period.

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