the obama birth certificate media scandal...

[washamericom]

that sucked even for you! but the again you're illiterate..

washamericom, a silly name was his claim to fame,
in reality he had no personality,
but that was not the worst.
he could not speak or spell.
but his ass did smell
of a rancid hell
from where his head had been.

that's a lot better. however, like your policy, it lacks content. did you write it yourself ?

you know dick about "my policy" as to content, it's more relevant then all the shit you could ever post.

i guess that's what keeps us all coming back, we'll see eventually.

 

[Emma]

Do you have anything new, that hasn't been debunked a hundred times over?

 

[washamericom]

Do you have anything new, that hasn't been debunked a hundred times over?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sxu63fw71I]Sheriff Joe Arpaio on Obama Birth Certificate Selective Service Registration Forgery Interview The Voice of Russia 3 26 12 - YouTube[/ame]

none of it has been debunked em, just obots saying it has.


think of it this way, the issue is growing.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/eligibility-invades-u-s-town-hall-meetings/

 

[Toro]

"snopes.com" ppffft...

Simply fucking pathetic el bull.... simply fucking pathetic.

Everything about obama is a lie, and the only ones looking STUPID now are ones like you living in UTTER DENIAL.

And sorry about your "lisp." May I suggest a speech therapist.

Anyone who thinks "everything about Obama is a lie" is extremely biased and unable to form a rational conclusion on this issue.

This embarrasses the political right, which is why most of the right has run far away from it. It is only an issue on the nutter fringe right.

this is what the left wants to perpetuate... it's passive alinsky harper, as a member of fogbow, what's your pretend interest in all of this as an "uninterested" canadian ? why would the left push vetting obama as being toxic for the right in the election ?? red flag mon frere. nice try. that's laughable. we'll proceed along, thank you.

I'm probably supporting Romney in November. Guys like you make beating Obama harder.

 

[regent]

Good thing the Republican party hasn't heard about this forgery thing; if this forgery ever got out the Republicans would be all over this thing. So far Democrats have been successful keeping the forgery- thing a secret, even stranger, no one in the Republican party seems to even have heard about it.
Maybe the problem centers about the evidence required for natural-born? Since they didn't have birth certificates when they wrote the Constitution, maybe Obama is presenting the wrong evidence. What evidence does the Constitution say is required to prove natural-born?

 

[washamericom]

Good thing the Republican party hasn't heard about this forgery thing; if this forgery ever got out the Republicans would be all over this thing. So far Democrats have been successful keeping the forgery- thing a secret, even stranger, no one in the Republican party seems to even have heard about it.
Maybe the problem centers about the evidence required for natural-born? Since they didn't have birth certificates when they wrote the Constitution, maybe Obama is presenting the wrong evidence. What evidence does the Constitution say is required to prove natural-born?

with all respect. they've know for almost a year. although you're correct in that the republicns have been "alinsky conditioned" to feel embarrassed if they talk about it. it's all about ridicule, it works.

if people start to feel betrayal by obama, and all of his covering up the tide will turn. as always follow the money.



on another note.. jack cashill

For the record, Ayers appears to have commuted between his wife and children in Chicago and Columbia University in New York from 1984 to 1987. Obama left New York, where he too had attended Columbia University, and arrived in Chicago in 1985.


did ayers know obama at columbia ??

 

[washamericom]

some of the debunking writing is starting to sound funny. i think looking back, we'll marvel at how subjective it was. from a link to snopes at fogbow right now. factcheck of course is linked to annenberg in chicago, where ayers and obama were boardmembers.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugex....,cf.osb&fp=d0d57506fc0a4d5c&biw=1504&bih=670

i'm sure it's all a coincidence.


Obama’s birth announcement


from "factcheck"

The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn’t tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama’s father’s race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father’s race and mother’s race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It’s certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."


the next big name to be vetted in all of this is obama family friend and democrat governor of hawaii neil abercrombie...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Abercrombie

According to Project Vote Smart, Abercrombie holds the following issue positions: he is pro-choice, has voted against a ban on partial birth abortion, and has voted with the interests of NARAL and Planned Parenthood 100% between 2000 and 2006. He has voted for bills designed to make it easier for Americans to vote, such as the motor voter bill. He has advocated strongly for civil liberties; his voting record is supported by both the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and American Library Association. He has also voted against a constitutional amendment proposed in 2006 to limit marriage to being between one man and one woman.[11] Notably, he was one of only nine representatives not to cast a vote for or against the USA PATRIOT Act in 2001.[12] In 2005, he voted against the extension of the act, calling it “a blank check to trample civil liberties."[13] In 2007, he signed on as a co-sponsor of H.R. 676, which would have established a national health insurance program.[14] He resigned from Congress on February 28, 2010, three weeks before the House vote on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (H.R. 3590).[15]

 

[regent]

What kind of courage do Republicans have if they could be alinsky-conditioned and feel embarassed to talk about Obama's birth?
And more importantly, what evidence does the Constitution require to prove a candidate's natural-birth? Can Obama just say he's natural-born and that would be sufficient? But now checking the Constituton it doesn't even require that? There seems to be no Constitutional requirement that Obama have a birth certificate, sign anything, or even to say he's natural-born. In short, the Constitution requires no evidence, nothing.
So the evidential requirements must be written out in law, where is the law?

 

[washamericom]

What kind of courage do Republicans have if they could be alinsky-conditioned and feel embarassed to talk about Obama's birth?
And more importantly, what evidence does the Constitution require to prove a candidate's natural-birth? Can Obama just say he's natural-born and that would be sufficient? But now checking the Constituton it doesn't even require that? There seems to be no Constitutional requirement that Obama have a birth certificate, sign anything, or even to say he's natural-born. In short, the Constitution requires no evidence, nothing.
So the evidential requirements must be written out in law, where is the law?

human nature can be easily manipulated by hype and demagoguery, as we saw in 08.

people don't want to be on the wrong side of an issue. this is why ridicule is such a powerful tool. i just posted on a fogbow satellite site that uses nothing but ridicule and character assassination. by nature, no one wants to be ridiculed or humiliated or called racist, especially when it's not true. people here throw around racist with no thought at all. why is that if it's such a silly topic.

two things: after a year of being immeadiately called crazy and stupid and racist, by people who don't know me, i became immuned to it, because it's more important to me to follow my heart, than to worry about namecallers supporting their cause of obama.

i should point out that i've never been interested in any conspiracies before, and to this day am only interested in this one.

second. i have noticed lately that a lot of new folks are weighing in on this. this is what scares the democrat party more than anything, real people, finding out the truth on their own.

read dr. corsi's book. ask questions about obama's past.

and it's always the same four or five people hanging out here attacking, not the facts of the issue, but the people interested in the subject. all this after it has been systematically removed from general population to the conspiracy section, out of site. quickly dispatched/relegated to the "crazy section"... it's a dirty little secret for a lot of forums that will have to be explained later, same for the mainstream media. people are asking why.

the law is gathering slowly on this... but instead of the issue just fading away, it's gethering world momentum. against incredible odds. if there is a cover up, it won't matter that he was born in kenya, where the kenyans think he was born.

 

[Nemo]

Good thing the Republican party hasn't heard about this forgery thing; if this forgery ever got out the Republicans would be all over this thing. So far Democrats have been successful keeping the forgery- thing a secret, even stranger, no one in the Republican party seems to even have heard about it.
Maybe the problem centers about the evidence required for natural-born? Since they didn't have birth certificates when they wrote the Constitution, maybe Obama is presenting the wrong evidence. What evidence does the Constitution say is required to prove natural-born?

That’s because the Republicans know that President Obama’s eligibility is a nonissue. They’ve been-there-done-that with their own previous candidate. See Hollander v. McCain, 566 F.Supp.2d 63 (2008). The GOP has disassociated from the lunatic “Birthers” in an effort to avoid alienating independent voters.

 

[washamericom]

Good thing the Republican party hasn't heard about this forgery thing; if this forgery ever got out the Republicans would be all over this thing. So far Democrats have been successful keeping the forgery- thing a secret, even stranger, no one in the Republican party seems to even have heard about it.
Maybe the problem centers about the evidence required for natural-born? Since they didn't have birth certificates when they wrote the Constitution, maybe Obama is presenting the wrong evidence. What evidence does the Constitution say is required to prove natural-born?

That’s because the Republicans know that President Obama’s eligibility is a nonissue. They’ve been-there-done-that with their own previous candidate. See Hollander v. McCain, 566 F.Supp.2d 63 (2008). The GOP has disassociated from the lunatic “Birthers” in an effort to avoid alienating independent voters.

to wit:, i rest my case...

 

[regent]

So does the Republican party have a responsiblity to offer evidence that Obama is not elgible? Why is it that some posters question and not the entire Republican party? Is the Republican party that easily intimidated, are they afraid of ridicule or Alinsky, if so they should quit politics. On the other hand, if the Republican party is not afraid of ridicule or Alinsky why are they staying out of the controversy? Seems like a golden opportunity for them, that is, if there is any credence to the birth thing. But it seems mum's the word for them, why?

 

[washamericom]

So does the Republican party have a responsiblity to offer evidence that Obama is not elgible? Why is it that some posters question and not the entire Republican party? Is the Republican party that easily intimidated, are they afraid of ridicule or Alinsky, if so they should quit politics. On the other hand, if the Republican party is not afraid of ridicule or Alinsky why are they staying out of the controversy? Seems like a golden opportunity for them, that is, if there is any credence to the birth thing. But it seems mum's the word for them, why?

you ask a lot of great questions, i hope people see that...

nobody likes to be thought of as crazy racist stupid or among the unpopular.

 

[Nemo]

So does the Republican party have a responsiblity to offer evidence that Obama is not elgible? Why is it that some posters question and not the entire Republican party? Is the Republican party that easily intimidated, are they afraid of ridicule or Alinsky, if so they should quit politics. On the other hand, if the Republican party is not afraid of ridicule or Alinsky why are they staying out of the controversy? Seems like a golden opportunity for them, that is, if there is any credence to the birth thing. But it seems mum's the word for them, why?

Why? Because there is no case. The erstwhile controversy over Barack Obama’s birth certificate was - from the beginning - a nonissue. The reason that President Obama has not produced his original birth certificate is because it is a record of vital statistics that is the property of the State of Hawaii, which under state privacy laws is subject to restricted access, and not available to the public. See HRS § 338-18(b). President Obama has disclosed a certified copy that has been authenticated by officials of the State of Hawaii; and which would be admissible under Rule 803(9) of the Federal Rules of Evidence in any action in which such issue was relevant. However, you don’t even get there because the federal courts lack subject matter jurisdiction for lack of standing of the plaintiffs (appellants) objecting to his eligibility to be President. The lawyers that filed those frivolous lawsuits (and appeals) well knew that they lacked standing to sue, and that such actions would be dismissed; and only did so to generate publicity (not to mention money) for themselves.

 

[daws101]

that's a lot better. however, like your policy, it lacks content. did you write it yourself ?

you know dick about "my policy" as to content, it's more relevant then all the shit you could ever post.

i guess that's what keeps us all coming back, we'll see eventually.

no matter which way the election goes you'll still be wrong, a racist and illiterate.

 

[daws101]

Good thing the Republican party hasn't heard about this forgery thing; if this forgery ever got out the Republicans would be all over this thing. So far Democrats have been successful keeping the forgery- thing a secret, even stranger, no one in the Republican party seems to even have heard about it.
Maybe the problem centers about the evidence required for natural-born? Since they didn't have birth certificates when they wrote the Constitution, maybe Obama is presenting the wrong evidence. What evidence does the Constitution say is required to prove natural-born?

with all respect. they've know for almost a year. although you're correct in that the republicns have been "alinsky conditioned" to feel embarrassed if they talk about it. it's all about ridicule, it works.

if people start to feel betrayal by obama, and all of his covering up the tide will turn. as always follow the money.



on another note.. jack cashill

For the record, Ayers appears to have commuted between his wife and children in Chicago and Columbia University in New York from 1984 to 1987. Obama left New York, where he too had attended Columbia University, and arrived in Chicago in 1985.


did ayers know obama at columbia ??

does that matter? I've been to Columbia too back in 85.

 

[washamericom]

you know dick about "my policy" as to content, it's more relevant then all the shit you could ever post.

i guess that's what keeps us all coming back, we'll see eventually.

no matter which way the election goes you'll still be wrong, a racist and illiterate.

if people like you didn't think and talk that way, then i would be worried. let's see what happens.

 

[washamericom]

Good thing the Republican party hasn't heard about this forgery thing; if this forgery ever got out the Republicans would be all over this thing. So far Democrats have been successful keeping the forgery- thing a secret, even stranger, no one in the Republican party seems to even have heard about it.
Maybe the problem centers about the evidence required for natural-born? Since they didn't have birth certificates when they wrote the Constitution, maybe Obama is presenting the wrong evidence. What evidence does the Constitution say is required to prove natural-born?

with all respect. they've know for almost a year. although you're correct in that the republicns have been "alinsky conditioned" to feel embarrassed if they talk about it. it's all about ridicule, it works.

if people start to feel betrayal by obama, and all of his covering up the tide will turn. as always follow the money.



on another note.. jack cashill

For the record, Ayers appears to have commuted between his wife and children in Chicago and Columbia University in New York from 1984 to 1987. Obama left New York, where he too had attended Columbia University, and arrived in Chicago in 1985.


did ayers know obama at columbia ??

does that matter? I've been to Columbia too back in 85.

so, are you friends with ayers ?

 

[daws101]

i guess that's what keeps us all coming back, we'll see eventually.

no matter which way the election goes you'll still be wrong, a racist and illiterate.

if people like you didn't think and talk that way, then i would be worried. let's see what happens.

what are people like me?
ass hats like you never worry, Therein lies the problem..

 

[daws101]

with all respect. they've know for almost a year. although you're correct in that the republicns have been "alinsky conditioned" to feel embarrassed if they talk about it. it's all about ridicule, it works.

if people start to feel betrayal by obama, and all of his covering up the tide will turn. as always follow the money.



on another note.. jack cashill

For the record, Ayers appears to have commuted between his wife and children in Chicago and Columbia University in New York from 1984 to 1987. Obama left New York, where he too had attended Columbia University, and arrived in Chicago in 1985.


did ayers know obama at columbia ??

does that matter? I've been to Columbia too back in 85.

so, are you friends with ayers ?

do you have any proof that obama was?