The numbers don’t lie: banning guns means more crime; more innocent victims and the L

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    The numbers don’t lie: banning guns means more crime; more innocent victims and the Left knows it​


    By: Kevin “Coach” Collins
    DECEMBER 18TH, 2012

    As threatened as the Second Amendment looks right now, in the end new attacks on our freedom to own guns will fail. The numbers will once again prove the Left’s arguments are built on lies and distortions.

    In the coming weeks disingenuous liberals will try to use the tragic murders of 20 children and 6 staff at a Connecticut grade school to justify curtailing our Second Amendment rights to own firearms. That this horrific crime was committed by a likely paranoid schizophrenic will mean nothing to the gun grabbers.

    That the ACLU recently defeated a Connecticut law which might have involuntarily put the monster that killed these innocent victims in an institution safely away from the rest of us, will mean nothing to them either.

    In knee jerk fashion they will claim anyone who does not want to limit Second Amendment rights must be in favor of killing innocent children and the media will run with these lies.

    Both the liberals and their media mouthpieces will ignore any evidence (however strong) that derails their cherished ultimate goal of confiscating all guns in America.

    They want to bring us closer to the “enlightened” position on firearms ownership held around the world and especially Europe.

    The Left will ignore the data from Kennesaw Georgia where a city ordinance which has been in effect for thirty years requires each home to have a gun.

    Kennesaw consistently reports crime rates below those of the national average.

    Moreover during the years immediately following the 1982 passage of its firearms requirement, home burglary rates dropped by 82% and other crimes followed suit.

    There will be no discussion of the mass murders of innocent unarmed people in gun control happy Norway where 77 people were methodically slain by a single armed killer…..


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    cherry picking the facts is not going to change them.

    the facts are NOT on your side
     
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    So Lanza wouldn't have had to steal his mother's guns, he have had his own, in fact, he would have been required to have his own.
     
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    In that scenario, he quite possible wouldn't have made it past the principal.
     
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    Do you think the left isn't cherry picking the facts. explain how Columbine happened in the middle of the last ban. Also explain your dear leaders and others on the left apparent amnesia on the Ft Hood shooting, have you heard anyone mention it? Why would they so conveniently forget about Ft Hood, could it be it happened where guns are more closely regulated than most any other and doesn't fit your skewed narrative?
     
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    cherry picking will not win you any election on this subject
     
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    I think pro-gun people need to watch it when they suggest that everyone be issued a gun, or have a gun, or what not. That's fine under the assumption that everyone is perfectly responsible with it and quite the marksman.

    But, picture this. Someone goes into a mall and starts shooting. Everyone has a gun but only a handful of people know who initiated the firing. The initial gunmen is taken out by a good Samaritan while another good Samaritan is hitting the deck. Shots are continually fired, someone turns around, sees one person shooting another, whips out his gun and shoots that person, which happened to be the good Samaritan shooting the gunman. Chain reaction, innocent people die by innocent people's guns. It would be no less of a tragedy. Common citizens aren't soldiers who know how to handle these types of situations. And of course, you run the risk of stray bullets hitting children. We don't want a Wild West type atmosphere.

    Yet still, it would have all started with the one person who decided to go nuts and start shooting. That's what needs to be addressed first and foremost. How can that person get help or get quarantined before he/she decides to do something like that?
     
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    News Flash - liberals don't give a fuck about the math - ideology trumps everything! :dev3:
     
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    Yes they are, shit-for-brains.

    Here are two facts that are irrefutable arguments against gun control

    Nazi Germany: 10 million innocent civilians sent to concentrations camps to be exterminated.

    Soviet Union: 20 million innocent civilians sent to labor camps to be worked to death. 20 million Kulaks starved to death in Ukraine by taking their harvests.

    Does anyone believe these deaths would have occurred if these people had been armed?
     
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    Someone at the school should have been armed. Gun free zones are the dumbest idea since the income tax.
     

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