The New Witch Hunt-From Salem 1692 to the Hysteria Over Gay Rights and Marriage Today

Ask anyone what they think happened in Salem Mass. In 1692 and they are likely to say something to the effect that some unsophisticated settlers, given to religious fervor and superstition during a harsh winter and desolate conditions, became obsessed with evil and targeted those who they saw as a threat. Ask those same people if such a thing could happen today, and they are likely to say “of course not!”

However, I submit to you that it is in fact happening again, only this time gays-not witches are the target. Consider:

In Salem witches were viewed as being possessed by evil that must be exorcised. The religious right of today see gays has being sick and in need of a cure.

The members of the Bay Colony saw witches as a threat to their Christian beliefs and even a threat to the continued existence of Christianity. Today, the religious right speaks passionately about their religious freedom being violated by gay rights and the criminalization of Christianity.

The settlers were driven by ignorance and fear of the unknown, and the need for a scapegoat to blame their problems on witches-which included a small pox outbreak and the perception of religious persecution. Today, we can see these same forces at work among the virulently religious right who have blamed gays for everything from natural disasters, and disease to the risen of liberal secularism.

Yes, the colonists were beset by real and present dangers- Native American’s , pirates, economic difficulties and political tensions with England which added to the stress which in turn contributed to the hysteria and the need to blame someone. We see the same dynamic playing out today with the fear of Islam and ISIS, uncertainty about the economy and the fact that there are people in power who do not reflect their values.

The settlers were so threatened by those who they deemed witches that they imprisoned and murdered them. Today, most on the right do not advocate imprisonment, burning at the stake, or drowning. However, there are those who do lament the decriminalization of homosexuality and some who have in fact advocated the imprisonment and execution of gays.

As in 1692, there is an identifiable triggering condition now. Then, it was a difficult winter living in isolation. Now, it is the rapid rise of the acceptance of gay people, and the speed at which they have gained legal rights culminating in marriage equality

If anyone wishes to question the voracity of this analogy, I invite you to first review a brief history of the Salem witch trials:



Now, let’s have a closer look at what is happening today. Enter Mike Huckabee:


Clearly, he is demonizing and scapegoating gays. Here is more from a supporter of another presidential contender who apparently has no problem with her extreme and bizarre views


Now let’s talk about the World Congress of Families which met recently in Salt Lake City….




More Salem style vilification and scapegoating. And the myths born of ignorance and fear, and the lies that speak to the deep seated animosity towards gays continues. Numbers 3, 4, 6, and 9 are especially egregious and represent the type of rhetoric that can lead to physical violence:




And then there is the endless drum beat of fear mongering about how gay rights is antithetical to Christianity and that it will destroy the freedom of religion, and religion itself:



The American Family Association is one of the most divisive and virulent organizations that is exploiting Christianity in there anti-gay crusade:



This is an extremely disconcerting development and represents a new low for those working against equality. As a last resort, the anti-equality forces have claimed victimhood and are, in fact blaming the victims. It is born of fear, prejudice and an increasing sense of desperation, and is attempting to hijack Christianity to stem the tide of progress in the area of human rights and evolving standards of decency. They purport to speak for the entire Christian faith, but in reality, represent a small, paranoid and reactionary fringe.

It is also disturbing to realize the depth of the divisiveness that has developed between these progressive rights organizations and a certain segment of the Christian community, a divisiveness that really does not need to be. The claims that the advance of gay rights and secularism an affront to Christians and impinges on religious freedom is without merit. While there are those that actually believe that is the case, others are knowingly promoting a false idea of religious liberty for their own purposes.

And let’s not forget the American evangelical, including some politicians who have traveled to Africa and Russia to promote those countries antigay agendas, which have included proposals to jail and even execute gays. Even right here in the U. S., in California to be exact, a ballot initiative to allow for the summary execution of gays was proposed.

It all comes down to this…..there are some of us who are not better, not smarter, and no more rational than the inhabitants of the Bay Colony, and if they were to achieve the control of government , Salem could indeed happen again.

Yup.

I even remember during the 80's when pro Family groups were blaming dungeons and dragons and heavy metal for stuff like satanism and even causing stuff like violence and they saw it as a threat.




In the 90's they blamed magic the gathering for a host of evils.


Early 2000's, they blamed harry potter for influencing a bunch of kids to become witches.

 
Yup.

I even remember during the 80's when pro Family groups were blaming dungeons and dragons and heavy metal for stuff like satanism and even causing stuff like violence and they saw it as a threat.




In the 90's they blamed magic the gathering for a host of evils.


Early 2000's, they blamed harry potter for influencing a bunch of kids to become witches.


Wow! I posted that 7 years ago. Maybe it will be given new life now/. Thanks
 
Sadly, seven years later, and the rights and protected liberties of gay and transgender Americans are still in jeopardy by the bigoted, authoritarian right.


It is the poisoning and mutilation of our young, that in time will be seen as a wave of madness that swept our declining and decaying culture.


People like you, your posts on this subject, will be studied the way the rise of the Third Reich is studied today.
 
It is the poisoning and mutilation of our young, that in time will be seen as a wave of madness that swept our declining and decaying culture.


People like you, your posts on this subject, will be studied the way the rise of the Third Reich is studied today.
Wrong! You are the likeness of the Nazis


And what the fuck does gay rights have to do with mutilation?

Our culture is not declining or decaying because of gay rights. You bigots are the ones dragging it down. Liberals and progressives represent and promote an evolving standard of human decency and tolerance.
 
Sadly, seven years later, and the rights and protected liberties of gay and transgender Americans are still in jeopardy by the bigoted, authoritarian right.

Even, the right passed laws which we thought only totalitarian countries would ever do.



I wonder if it is time for heavy metal and hardcore punk to come back.

And by metal,i don't mean, emo type metal about how someone's life sucks or songs about partying.

But i mean songs about how those in power often abuse the power they been given and spit on the very Constitution that this great country was founded on.

Like the lyrics of some of these songs.

What's wrong with our society, is it fear or apathy
Don't let other people run your life
So those with power don't use it, they simply
Abuse it
And believe me that cuts me like a knif


You take a mortal man
And put him in control
Watch him become a god
Watch people's heads a-roll
A-roll, A-roll

They're not singing about the electric company, they are singing about how those with power often get corrupted by the power they have.

Metal and hardcore punk have political messages in their songs, even if some of the music makes it too loud to hear what they are screaming about.
 
Wrong! You are the likeness of the Nazis


And what the fuck does gay rights have to do with mutilation?

Our culture is not declining or decaying because of gay rights. You bigots are the ones dragging it down. Liberals and progressives represent and promote an evolving standard of human decency and tolerance.



Nope. It is you. YOu are the one pushing crazy ideas because of ideology, that is leading to people being hurt and dying by the millions.

You are the one saying bat shit insane shit like, a man saying magic words, ie I AM A WOMAN, magically BECOMES a woman and thus can, or even must have surgical mutilation preformed to look more like a woman. And the rest of us are required to play along, no matter how badly the surgeries go.


Bat shit crazy.
 
There is also another reason why some people pick on gays.

In 2022. gays are the only group that a lot of people can criticize without suffering personal or professional consequences.

Those people actually want to criticize another group, but they do not dare do so.

So gays are the perfect default object.
 
There is also another reason why some people pick on gays.

In 2022. gays are the only group that a lot of people can criticize without suffering personal or professional consequences.

Those people actually want to criticize another group, but they do not dare do so.

So gays are the perfect default object.

Yup.

I think the people calling people "fags" and "faggots" now are the same people in the past were telling "negro" jokes about Black people, but they can't do that anymore without being called a ignorant racist, so they have to pick a new target.
 
Yup.

I even remember during the 80's when pro Family groups were blaming dungeons and dragons and heavy metal for stuff like satanism and even causing stuff like violence and they saw it as a threat.




In the 90's they blamed magic the gathering for a host of evils.


Early 2000's, they blamed harry potter for influencing a bunch of kids to become witches.


And we had 3 mass school shootings in America prior to the 90’s.
 
It is the poisoning and mutilation of our young, that in time will be seen as a wave of madness that swept our declining and decaying culture.


People like you, your posts on this subject, will be studied the way the rise of the Third Reich is studied today.
Once Roe is overturned, the neo-fascist authoritarian right will attack the rights of gay and transgender Americans, seeking to allow the states to deny same-sex couples access to marriage law and criminalize homosexuality.
 
Ask anyone what they think happened in Salem Mass. In 1692 and they are likely to say something to the effect that some unsophisticated settlers, given to religious fervor and superstition during a harsh winter and desolate conditions, became obsessed with evil and targeted those who they saw as a threat. Ask those same people if such a thing could happen today, and they are likely to say “of course not!”

However, I submit to you that it is in fact happening again, only this time gays-not witches are the target. Consider:

In Salem witches were viewed as being possessed by evil that must be exorcised. The religious right of today see gays has being sick and in need of a cure.

The members of the Bay Colony saw witches as a threat to their Christian beliefs and even a threat to the continued existence of Christianity. Today, the religious right speaks passionately about their religious freedom being violated by gay rights and the criminalization of Christianity.

The settlers were driven by ignorance and fear of the unknown, and the need for a scapegoat to blame their problems on witches-which included a small pox outbreak and the perception of religious persecution. Today, we can see these same forces at work among the virulently religious right who have blamed gays for everything from natural disasters, and disease to the risen of liberal secularism.

Yes, the colonists were beset by real and present dangers- Native American’s , pirates, economic difficulties and political tensions with England which added to the stress which in turn contributed to the hysteria and the need to blame someone. We see the same dynamic playing out today with the fear of Islam and ISIS, uncertainty about the economy and the fact that there are people in power who do not reflect their values.

The settlers were so threatened by those who they deemed witches that they imprisoned and murdered them. Today, most on the right do not advocate imprisonment, burning at the stake, or drowning. However, there are those who do lament the decriminalization of homosexuality and some who have in fact advocated the imprisonment and execution of gays.

As in 1692, there is an identifiable triggering condition now. Then, it was a difficult winter living in isolation. Now, it is the rapid rise of the acceptance of gay people, and the speed at which they have gained legal rights culminating in marriage equality

If anyone wishes to question the voracity of this analogy, I invite you to first review a brief history of the Salem witch trials:



Now, let’s have a closer look at what is happening today. Enter Mike Huckabee:


Clearly, he is demonizing and scapegoating gays. Here is more from a supporter of another presidential contender who apparently has no problem with her extreme and bizarre views


Now let’s talk about the World Congress of Families which met recently in Salt Lake City….




More Salem style vilification and scapegoating. And the myths born of ignorance and fear, and the lies that speak to the deep seated animosity towards gays continues. Numbers 3, 4, 6, and 9 are especially egregious and represent the type of rhetoric that can lead to physical violence:




And then there is the endless drum beat of fear mongering about how gay rights is antithetical to Christianity and that it will destroy the freedom of religion, and religion itself:



The American Family Association is one of the most divisive and virulent organizations that is exploiting Christianity in there anti-gay crusade:



This is an extremely disconcerting development and represents a new low for those working against equality. As a last resort, the anti-equality forces have claimed victimhood and are, in fact blaming the victims. It is born of fear, prejudice and an increasing sense of desperation, and is attempting to hijack Christianity to stem the tide of progress in the area of human rights and evolving standards of decency. They purport to speak for the entire Christian faith, but in reality, represent a small, paranoid and reactionary fringe.

It is also disturbing to realize the depth of the divisiveness that has developed between these progressive rights organizations and a certain segment of the Christian community, a divisiveness that really does not need to be. The claims that the advance of gay rights and secularism an affront to Christians and impinges on religious freedom is without merit. While there are those that actually believe that is the case, others are knowingly promoting a false idea of religious liberty for their own purposes.

And let’s not forget the American evangelical, including some politicians who have traveled to Africa and Russia to promote those countries antigay agendas, which have included proposals to jail and even execute gays. Even right here in the U. S., in California to be exact, a ballot initiative to allow for the summary execution of gays was proposed.

It all comes down to this…..there are some of us who are not better, not smarter, and no more rational than the inhabitants of the Bay Colony, and if they were to achieve the control of government , Salem could indeed happen again.
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Once Roe is overturned, the neo-fascist authoritarian right will attack the rights of gay and transgender Americans, seeking to allow the states to deny same-sex couples access to marriage law and criminalize homosexuality.


And when your fantasy fails to materialize AGAIN, you will move on to the next made up bullshit panic mongering, without a flicker of self awareness.


Hey, remember when you people were so terrified that Trump would start a nuclear war? Or my favorite, an oldie but a goodie where you ridiculed Reagan for saying that the Soviet Union would collapse?


You people are hysterical panic mongers. Normal people need to stop giving your hysteria any consideration.
 
Look who's talking!


Yes, me. Funny how you cut my supporting examples, instead of addressing them. Here they are again. So you can ignore them, again.





Hey, remember when you people were so terrified that Trump would start a nuclear war? Or my favorite, an oldie but a goodie where you ridiculed Reagan for saying that the Soviet Union would collapse?



And here is my conclusion again. So you can fail to challenge it. Again.



And when your fantasy fails to materialize AGAIN, you will move on to the next made up bullshit panic mongering, without a flicker of self awareness.
 
Yup.

I even remember during the 80's when pro Family groups were blaming dungeons and dragons and heavy metal for stuff like satanism and even causing stuff like violence and they saw it as a threat.




In the 90's they blamed magic the gathering for a host of evils.


Early 2000's, they blamed harry potter for influencing a bunch of kids to become witches.


Did the 700 Club burn anyone at the stake?
There's a reason why PEOPLE are rioting and committing violent crimes and mass shootings and killing their unborn children at a rate of 2000 a day.
I don't think the 700 Club or pro-family groups are causing it.
 

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