The New Political Definition of Healthcare

[Dot Com]

...almost everyone covered by insurance was more than happy with same.

Those facing soaring premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions were not happy, and you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were..

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it PolitiFact

Here's what we found, poll by poll, in reverse chronological order:

•Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

•Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.

•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied.Total: 95 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 91 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 86 percent satisfaction.

If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.

One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.

So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it




2. "We won't even mention the millions who had no insurance...unless you're the rare RWer who doesn't subscribe to the party line there."
Drop the "we."

Here's your ObamaCare fraud:
“... all of the disruption, spending, taxation, and premium hikes in Obamacare has only reduced the percentage of U.S. residents without health insurance by 2.7 percentage points,from 13.9% to 11.1%: a remarkably small reduction, and far lower than what the law was supposed to achieve.”
--Avik Roy
Obama Administration: Obamacare Has Driven Health Spending Up, While Covering Fewer Than Expected

everybody was overjoyed w/ their coverage eh PoliSpice?

Biggest Cause of Personal Bankruptcies? Medical Bills

 

[Dot Com]

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

Nice drive by

SERIOUSLY?!!! The guy demolished the OP and THATS your response?

.
He didn't lay a finger on her.

why are you even in this thread again? You have posted twice and said nothing

 

[TooTall]

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

Nice drive by

SERIOUSLY?!!! The guy demolished the OP and THATS your response?

SERIOUSLY?!!! You call this demolishing anyone?

"You are the equivalent of a paint store with only a single color paint and a single wide brush for sale.
This is another failed TROLL thread!"

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

 

[Arianrhod]

...almost everyone covered by insurance was more than happy with same.

Those facing soaring premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions were not happy, and you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were..

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"[/url]

The site you linked to classifies this as "mostly true."

The mostly not true part is that 85% of Americans had health insurance. If they had, there'd have been an easy measure (extension of Medicaid?) to fold in the remaining 15%.

And Will's statement does nothing to address the categories I mentioned, but then he travels in the sort of circles where people actually do have sufficient wealth to pay out of pocket for pricey treatments in some private clinic in Switzerland.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If we make healthcare a "right", then government will have a compelling interest in our health - as they define it .

Healthcare has been a 'right' since Reagan signed it in 1986.
Because it was a Republican program, there was no political ancillary aspect.


There never was a need for ObamaCare....not medically.
Not even socially, as almost everyone covered by insurance was more than happy with same.
And the political ramifications are spelled out in this thread.

Obamacare was not designed to make people who were happy with their insurance happier.

"Obamacare was not designed to make people who were happy with their insurance happier."


ObamaCare was a duplicate of the earlier Bolshevik plan.

It was unconcerned as to who was 'happy,' or even covered with medical insurance.

It was always a plan to co-opt one seventh of the private economy, and allow totalitarian governance.....
...exactly as conservatives warned.

1. There seem to be only two ironclad rules of government:
Rule no.1: Always try to expand;

Rule no. 2: see Rule no. 1.
Beck, Balfe, “Broke,” p. 115

The Bosheviks wanted a competitive market exchange where people would buy insurance from private for profit companies?

Can you prove that?

lol

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

Nice drive by

SERIOUSLY?!!! The guy demolished the OP and THATS your response?

SERIOUSLY?!!! You call this demolishing anyone?

"You are the equivalent of a paint store with only a single color paint and a single wide brush for sale.
This is another failed TROLL thread!"

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

My initial critique of Chica's standard style of contrived bullshit in that contrived narcissistic format targeting her "usual suspects" was a valid description of her MO. SSDD!. Don't like it...tough shit! But you're the one that responded to my initial post with...

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

...following that with this to another...

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

...and now charge me with resorting to "childish insults" rather than directing that horseshit at me personally. Now most reasonable people would characterize that as hypocritical in the extreme ALL issues considered, but I'll just say you got it wrong, you haven't read the entire thread and you're a fucking misinformed knuckle dragging troglodyte.

 

[dblack]

If we make healthcare a "right", then government will have a compelling interest in our health - as they define it .

Healthcare has been a 'right' since Reagan signed it in 1986.
Because it was a Republican program, there was no political ancillary aspect.

That was a "foot in the door", as they say. But ACA takes it to another level. And if we get single payer, or actual socialized health care, it will be even more of a concern. I expect to see more and more laws dictating personal behavior in the name of health care cost containment.

"...it will be even more of a concern. I expect to see more and more laws dictating personal behavior...."

I see you are a student of history.

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately.) Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked the American Medical Association because of his conflicting views on socialized medicine."
Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century: Stalin's Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252

Uh... are you trying to make a point? Why are you posting numbered lists of facts and quotes? Do you have any ideas to express?

 

[PoliticalChic]

...almost everyone covered by insurance was more than happy with same.

Those facing soaring premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions were not happy, and you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were..

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"[/url]

The site you linked to classifies this as "mostly true."

The mostly not true part is that 85% of Americans had health insurance. If they had, there'd have been an easy measure (extension of Medicaid?) to fold in the remaining 15%.

And Will's statement does nothing to address the categories I mentioned, but then he travels in the sort of circles where people actually do have sufficient wealth to pay out of pocket for pricey treatments in some private clinic in Switzerland.

Consider the future.....Obama will be gone in a year.....
...you'll be able to get off your knees.

Soon you'll be up to your full four foot three.

 

[TooTall]

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

Nice drive by

SERIOUSLY?!!! The guy demolished the OP and THATS your response?

SERIOUSLY?!!! You call this demolishing anyone?

"You are the equivalent of a paint store with only a single color paint and a single wide brush for sale.
This is another failed TROLL thread!"

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

My initial critique of Chica's standard style of contrived bullshit in that contrived narcissistic format targeting her "usual suspects" was a valid description of her MO. SSDD!. Don't like it...tough shit! But you're the one that responded to my initial post with...

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

...following that with this to another...

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

...and now charge me with resorting to "childish insults" rather than directing that horseshit at me personally. Now most reasonable people would characterize that as hypocritical in the extreme ALL issues considered, but I'll just say you got it wrong, you haven't read the entire thread and you're a fucking misinformed knuckle dragging troglodyte.

Back to the childish insults I see. I DID direct it at you dipshit!

 

[Dot Com]

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

Nice drive by

SERIOUSLY?!!! The guy demolished the OP and THATS your response?

SERIOUSLY?!!! You call this demolishing anyone?

"You are the equivalent of a paint store with only a single color paint and a single wide brush for sale.
This is another failed TROLL thread!"

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

My initial critique of Chica's standard style of contrived bullshit in that contrived narcissistic format targeting her "usual suspects" was a valid description of her MO. SSDD!. Don't like it...tough shit! But you're the one that responded to my initial post with...

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

...following that with this to another...

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

...and now charge me with resorting to "childish insults" rather than directing that horseshit at me personally. Now most reasonable people would characterize that as hypocritical in the extreme ALL issues considered, but I'll just say you got it wrong, you haven't read the entire thread and you're a fucking misinformed knuckle dragging troglodyte.

Back to the childish insults I see. I DID direct it at you dipshit!

Thats, what is it?, Three worthless, off-topic posts by you.
keep going. OP needs your help

 

[TooTall]

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

Nice drive by

SERIOUSLY?!!! The guy demolished the OP and THATS your response?

SERIOUSLY?!!! You call this demolishing anyone?

"You are the equivalent of a paint store with only a single color paint and a single wide brush for sale.
This is another failed TROLL thread!"

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

My initial critique of Chica's standard style of contrived bullshit in that contrived narcissistic format targeting her "usual suspects" was a valid description of her MO. SSDD!. Don't like it...tough shit! But you're the one that responded to my initial post with...

It does require an IQ above room temperature to understand the point of the thread. Sorry, you don't qualify.

...following that with this to another...

He didn't lay a glove on her and resorted to childish insults.

...and now charge me with resorting to "childish insults" rather than directing that horseshit at me personally. Now most reasonable people would characterize that as hypocritical in the extreme ALL issues considered, but I'll just say you got it wrong, you haven't read the entire thread and you're a fucking misinformed knuckle dragging troglodyte.

Back to the childish insults I see. I DID direct it at you dipshit!

Thats, what is it?, Three worthless, off-topic posts by you.
keep going. OP needs your help

They all got your attention with worthless off-topic replies.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...almost everyone covered by insurance was more than happy with same.

Those facing soaring premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions were not happy, and you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were..

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"[/url]

The site you linked to classifies this as "mostly true."

The mostly not true part is that 85% of Americans had health insurance. If they had, there'd have been an easy measure (extension of Medicaid?) to fold in the remaining 15%.

And Will's statement does nothing to address the categories I mentioned, but then he travels in the sort of circles where people actually do have sufficient wealth to pay out of pocket for pricey treatments in some private clinic in Switzerland.

"The site" is the uber-Leftist, Obama-supporting politifact.com


It concludes:
"Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it


The fact is, you provide proof...proof that falls under the title 'beating a dead horse,'....that your indoctrination is indelible.


Bet you attended a government school.

 

[Arianrhod]

...almost everyone covered by insurance was more than happy with same.

Those facing soaring premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions were not happy, and you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were..

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"[/url]

The site you linked to classifies this as "mostly true."

The mostly not true part is that 85% of Americans had health insurance. If they had, there'd have been an easy measure (extension of Medicaid?) to fold in the remaining 15%.

And Will's statement does nothing to address the categories I mentioned, but then he travels in the sort of circles where people actually do have sufficient wealth to pay out of pocket for pricey treatments in some private clinic in Switzerland.

"The site" is the uber-Leftist, Obama-supporting politifact.com

If you doubt the findings, it's incumbent on you to prove that George Will's statement is 100% true. Make sure to link to Breitbart, NewsMax, and any random blog you stumble across.

Then when you're finished stalling, we can get back to discussing pre-PPACA premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...almost everyone covered by insurance was more than happy with same.

Those facing soaring premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions were not happy, and you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were..

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"[/url]

The site you linked to classifies this as "mostly true."

The mostly not true part is that 85% of Americans had health insurance. If they had, there'd have been an easy measure (extension of Medicaid?) to fold in the remaining 15%.

And Will's statement does nothing to address the categories I mentioned, but then he travels in the sort of circles where people actually do have sufficient wealth to pay out of pocket for pricey treatments in some private clinic in Switzerland.

"The site" is the uber-Leftist, Obama-supporting politifact.com

If you doubt the findings, it's incumbent on you to prove that George Will's statement is 100% true. Make sure to link to Breitbart, NewsMax, and any random blog you stumble across.

Then when you're finished stalling, we can get back to discussing pre-PPACA premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions.

I'd rather just prove you're a fool, and one more lock-step Liberal.
I believe I just did.

 

[Arianrhod]

Those facing soaring premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions were not happy, and you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were..

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"[/url]

The site you linked to classifies this as "mostly true."

The mostly not true part is that 85% of Americans had health insurance. If they had, there'd have been an easy measure (extension of Medicaid?) to fold in the remaining 15%.

And Will's statement does nothing to address the categories I mentioned, but then he travels in the sort of circles where people actually do have sufficient wealth to pay out of pocket for pricey treatments in some private clinic in Switzerland.

"The site" is the uber-Leftist, Obama-supporting politifact.com

If you doubt the findings, it's incumbent on you to prove that George Will's statement is 100% true. Make sure to link to Breitbart, NewsMax, and any random blog you stumble across.

Then when you're finished stalling, we can get back to discussing pre-PPACA premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions.

I'd rather just prove you're a fool, and one more lock-step Liberal.
I believe I just did.

Your belief is baseless. Your inability to support your brain farts with facts, however, is demonstrable.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"If you doubt the findings, it's incumbent on you to prove that George Will's statement is 100%"

No I don't. That's why I provided the proof from a left wing source.

polifact proved, with a number of polls, that George Wills' statement is far......far.....more accurate and truthful than either yours, or your lord and master's is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. "you'd be faced with an impossible task if you tried to prove they were."
I never say anything I can't prove.
Watch:

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"[/url]

The site you linked to classifies this as "mostly true."

The mostly not true part is that 85% of Americans had health insurance. If they had, there'd have been an easy measure (extension of Medicaid?) to fold in the remaining 15%.

And Will's statement does nothing to address the categories I mentioned, but then he travels in the sort of circles where people actually do have sufficient wealth to pay out of pocket for pricey treatments in some private clinic in Switzerland.

"The site" is the uber-Leftist, Obama-supporting politifact.com

If you doubt the findings, it's incumbent on you to prove that George Will's statement is 100% true. Make sure to link to Breitbart, NewsMax, and any random blog you stumble across.

Then when you're finished stalling, we can get back to discussing pre-PPACA premiums, lifetime caps, and denial for preexisting conditions.

I'd rather just prove you're a fool, and one more lock-step Liberal.
I believe I just did.

Your belief is baseless. Your inability to support your brain farts with facts, however, is demonstrable.

Let's demonstrate that you are a low-life liar....again.


"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
—George Willon Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it PolitiFact



Here's what we found, poll by poll, in reverse chronological order:

•Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

•Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.

•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

•ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied.Total: 95 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 91 percent satisfaction.

•Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied.Total: 86 percent satisfaction.

If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.

One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.

So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.

Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



And...it's from politifact...

 

[Arianrhod]

Will's statement was made in 2010, four years before full implementation of the PPACA. If you'd spoken to any of those who had health insurance at the time, you'd have found that:

(A) The majority of them had employer-provided group coverage, i.e., they were getting either a free or low-cost ride (the same thing you yobs are yowling about now)

(B) They'd have been aware of what happened to people with preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, and/or no insurance, and their response would have been "Hey, I'm better off than those people, know what I'm saying?"

So it seems that, against your "Will" (that's a joke, son) you're being dragged into a discussion of the actual issues.

Want to keep going, or will you wimp out and call me names again?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Will's statement was made in 2010, four years before full implementation of the PPACA. If you'd spoken to any of those who had health insurance at the time, you'd have found that:

(A) The majority of them had employer-provided group coverage, i.e., they were getting either a free or low-cost ride (the same thing you yobs are yowling about now)

(B) They'd have been aware of what happened to people with preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, and/or no insurance, and their response would have been "Hey, I'm better off than those people, know what I'm saying?"

So it seems that, against your "Will" (that's a joke, son) you're being dragged into a discussion of the actual issues.

Want to keep going, or will you wimp out and call me names again?

Now that i've proven you to be a liar.....what else can I indicate about you....?

This:
"“I just heard about this,” Obamatold Fox News’ Ed Henry...." some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run,”Obama said.

Republicans have used the term “architect” to describe Gruber’s role in the creation of Obamacare, while Democrats have now sought to paint him as a marginal player....videos surfaced over the past week in which Gruber spoke freely about how he believed Obamacare was passed.

Claiming a “lack of transparency” was necessary to pass Obamacare, Gruber said last year “this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the [Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”

“Call it the stupidity of the American voter,”Gruber said."Obama Addresses Gruber s Comments The Daily Caller





“Call it the stupidity of the American voter,”Gruber said."
We've all seen this quote because of how insulting it is, another Liberal elitist looking down his nose at Americans.

But...but clarity......let's remember that the"stupidity"is aimed directly at those who voted for the lying windbag in the White House.
That's right!
The folks who presented ObamaCare did so fully recognizing how stupid their supporters are!

Not at those of us who correctly identified what a mistake voting Democrat is!



For edification, these terms are the Antonyms for stupid

• bright
• careful
• intelligent
• prudent
• reasonable

• sensible
• serious
• sharp
• smart

......conservative.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Will's statement was made in 2010, four years before full implementation of the PPACA. If you'd spoken to any of those who had health insurance at the time, you'd have found that:

(A) The majority of them had employer-provided group coverage, i.e., they were getting either a free or low-cost ride (the same thing you yobs are yowling about now)

(B) They'd have been aware of what happened to people with preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, and/or no insurance, and their response would have been "Hey, I'm better off than those people, know what I'm saying?"

So it seems that, against your "Will" (that's a joke, son) you're being dragged into a discussion of the actual issues.

Want to keep going, or will you wimp out and call me names again?

"(B) They'd have been aware of what happened to people with preexisting conditions, lifetime caps, and/or no insurance, and their response would have been "Hey, I'm better off than those people, know what I'm saying?"

Wrong again.

The most recent ABC News/Washington Post poll (June 21) finds that 83 percent of Americans are very satisfied or somewhat satisfied with the quality of their health care, and 81 percent are similarly satisfied with their health insurance.


1. "They have good reason to be. If you're diagnosed with cancer, you have a better chance of surviving it in the United States than anywhere else, according to the Concord Five Continent Study. And the World Health Organization ranked the United States No. 1 out of 191 countries for being responsive to patients' needs, including providing timely treatments and a choice of doctors."
Defend Your Health - For a Fit Body and Mind
O’S BROKEN PROMISES | New York Post


2. "Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage."
ABCNEWS.com : U.S. Health Care Concerns Increase


Looks like you're batting zero.