The Myth of Border Security, the Reality of Retribution

[Clementine]

The idea that we cant secure our borders is a total fallacy.

Correct!

But the operative word is NOT "cant"; it's "WON'T".

Not only that, but once they do sneak in, they know that laws will not be enforced and they will get away with a lot.

How many Americans sneak into Mexico? I bet that number is really low. It's because we all know that Mexico is really tough on illegal immigration and not only won't we get any handouts, we're going to end up in big trouble. So, that is enough of a deterrent.

We need a deterrent, such as no perks for breaking the law. If caught, you get deported. No free housing. No welfare. Nothing. Dead end.

There will always be a way to breach security even if we actually attempted to have a strong border. Taking away the reasons for sneaking in will end the problem.

Obama played everyone for fools when he claimed that the border is secure, all the while increasing the incentive for people to enter illegally.

 

[bripat9643]

The idea that we cant secure our borders is a total fallacy.

Correct!

But the operative word is NOT "cant"; it's "WON'T".

Not only that, but once they do sneak in, they know that laws will not be enforced and they will get away with a lot.

How many Americans sneak into Mexico? I bet that number is really low. It's because we all know that Mexico is really tough on illegal immigration and not only won't we get any handouts, we're going to end up in big trouble. So, that is enough of a deterrent.

We need a deterrent, such as no perks for breaking the law. If caught, you get deported. No free housing. No welfare. Nothing. Dead end.

There will always be a way to breach security even if we actually attempted to have a strong border. Taking away the reasons for sneaking in will end the problem.

Obama played everyone for fools when he claimed that the border is secure, all the while increasing the incentive for people to enter illegally.

"There will always be a way to breach security even if we actually attempted to have a strong border. Taking away the reasons for sneaking in will end the problem."

If that were true, then why do we have security around prisons? How about military bases? Should we take down all the fences with razor wire? How about the fence around the White House?

The theory that if one person manages to penetrate security then it's useless is obviously absurd. It ignores the other 999 people who weren't able to penetrate it.

As always, this is just another excuse for doing nothing. Turds like you don't want to seal the boarder. You support as many illegal aliens entering the country as possible.

There's no reason we can't build the fence and fine employers for hiring illegal aliens. Of course, Obama and the Dims are doing everything possible to avoid doing that.

 

[danielpalos]

dudes and Esquires,

We have a Commerce Clause, why are we losing money on Commerce at our borders?

 

[Plasmaball]

No "border" in the world is completely "secure". It's an impossible fantasy.

As to Mr. Cabrera's comments - you do realize that he's the head of a public employee labor union that directly benefits from scaring people about illegal immigration?

Do you take everything that Randi Weingarten says about education in this country as fact?

I haven't heard of anyone crossing the Korean border, have you?

they go through china and thailand.

North Korea doesn't border Thailand, numskull.

they get smuggled into their , and then into south korea.

Whos their?

some places. Basically what i saw this christian preacher goes over, takes a few, and brings them over. I think S. Korea will automatically grant amnesty to anyone who sneaks over.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I believe that S. Korea will grant amnesty to anyone who actually makes it there. N. Korea also encourages, and will accept deserters from S. Korea, although I don't expect there are many of those anymore.

 

[dblack]

dudes and Esquires,

We have a Commerce Clause, why are we losing money on Commerce at our borders?

I think you've conflated the Commerce Clause with Santa Claus.

 

[danielpalos]

dudes and Esquires,

We have a Commerce Clause, why are we losing money on Commerce at our borders?

I think you've conflated the Commerce Clause with Santa Claus.

I think you merely don't have enough Faith in Capitalism, person on the right. Can you really really have Faith in any Thing less material?

 

[OnePercenter]

BOTTOM LINE: If you want to stop illegal immigration, remove the incentive which is money. Put the law breaking employers behind bars.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

BOTTOM LINE: If you want to stop illegal immigration, remove the incentive which is money. Put the law breaking employers behind bars.

You mean obama? He's the one letting em in and giving em the okay to work here.

 

[danielpalos]

BOTTOM LINE: If you want to stop illegal immigration, remove the incentive which is money. Put the law breaking employers behind bars.

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause and we have a federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will to consider.

 

[dblack]

BOTTOM LINE: If you want to stop illegal immigration, remove the incentive which is money. Put the law breaking employers behind bars.

Also anyone who gives them dirty wetbacks money or food. Put 'em under the jail!

 

[danielpalos]

BOTTOM LINE: If you want to stop illegal immigration, remove the incentive which is money. Put the law breaking employers behind bars.

Also anyone who gives them dirty wetbacks money or food. Put 'em under the jail!

Should I object about any lack of any moral of "goodwill toward men" in a morals thread?

 

[OnePercenter]

You mean obama? He's the one letting em in and giving em the okay to work here.

Again, remove the incentive.

 

[OnePercenter]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause and we have a federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will to consider.

So you are pro illegal immigration so employers can have cheap labor?

 

[danielpalos]

There is no appeal to ignorance of our Commerce Clause and we have a federal Doctrine in American law and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will to consider.

So you are pro illegal immigration so employers can have cheap labor?

So, you are for the moral turpitude of bearing false witness to, and appealing to ignorance of, our Commerce Clause, a federal Doctrine, and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

The Chosun Ilbo English Edition Daily News from Korea - N.Korea Confirms Arrest of U.S. Citizen

'Border security' is something of an oxymoron. 9/11 hijackers all flew in to the US.

 

[danielpalos]

BOTTOM LINE: If you want to stop illegal immigration, remove the incentive which is money. Put the law breaking employers behind bars.

Why not simply solve our "illegal" problem on a permanent basis through Commerce, well regulated, and that form of Capitalism instead of the coercive use of force of a State and that form of Socialism.

It makes some on the left, believe many on the right don't really really have Faith in Capitalism.

 

[dblack]

BOTTOM LINE: If you want to stop illegal immigration, remove the incentive which is money. Put the law breaking employers behind bars.

Why not simply solve our "illegal" problem on a permanent basis through Commerce, well regulated, and that form of Capitalism instead of the coercive use of force of a State and that form of Socialism.

It makes some on the left, believe many on the right don't really really have Faith in Capitalism.

I sense you think you're being clever.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You mean obama? He's the one letting em in and giving em the okay to work here.

Again, remove the incentive.

Than tell obama to stop letting them in and giving tacit approval for them to work here.
I mean come on,do you think they are being let in to not work?

 

[timslash]

It's absurd to be sure that borders are "secure" with such amount of illegals on our country's territory!
They are everywhere and it's not good, it's a disaster and i'm sure that when all people will understand that Obama's immigration policy bring more harm than good... Will be too late!